Do Vapers hate Smokers? How do we feel about current smokers now that we vape.

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ScottP

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Do Vapers hate Smokers? not I for me as a 30+ year ex-smoker I have no right to pass judgment on anyone who smokes but it does bug me when they tell me I still smoke because I vape because I'm still using nicotine. I tell them that's like telling somebody they didn't quit drinking coffee because they are still getting caffeine in there diet coke but it falls on deaf ears.

Yeah when you meet people like that, you just just feel like looking at them and saying: "Well here's your sign".
 

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I was a smoker. I hated when people preached quitting to me. I hated the fake coughs from 50 yards away. I hated walking in a building and someone saying way too loudly while looking right at me "WOW someone must really smoke it STINKS in here." I refuse to do anything of the sort to anyone.

I know from my own experience people will quit if and when they are ready to and not one moment before. I am always willing to explain vaping and let smokers try it but I do not preach.

I do resent being sent to the smoking pit to vape. I quit smoking because I did not want to breath smoke and now they are trying to force me to breath smoke again. THAT I am vocal about. That also has NOTHING to do with the smokers themselves.
 

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I find it hard to hate them for doing what I did for more than half my life. It's more a pitty thing to me. The amount of money they spend and have nothing physical to show for it. I mean we spend ALOT of cash on our shiny stuff but at least we don't have to stomp it to the ground when we are done getting our fix (instead we can display it with utter pride!)
 

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I harbor no ill will towards smokers. With the exception of rude and inconsiderate smokers--the ones who smoke by children and pregnant women, light up right next to people that're eating, and whatnot . But in reality, I'm just not fond of rude and inconsiderate people--vapers included :p

With all the discrimination we've faced as smokers (and often still face as vapers), it would be hypocritical to jump onto the other team just because we're vaping instead. I have friends and coworkers that still smoke--I don't think myself above them because I was able to find an alternative. If anything, I sympathize with smokers for the way they're treated. Fact is, we still get a lot of the same treatment even though we're no longer smokers.

I'd love to turn more smokers to vaping, and I'm happy to talk vaping with any smoker that asks, but I'm not going to evangelize. I have family that try to convert me to Christianity every time I visit them, and it SUCKS--I refuse to subject another person to the same sort of one-sided discussion.



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I don't hate smokers, after all where did all us vapers come from? I do get bothered a bit by the smell, but that's no reason to be mean or disrespect them. I usually just move. I don't preach about vaping, but I am always willing to answer questions and help people find good starting points if they want to try.

to me it sounds like a troll was talking.
 

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I certainly don't hate, or look down on, smokers. Up until 6 months ago, I was one. I'm very happy being a vaper now. I don't try and convert smokers to vaping. If asked, I'm happy to explain how it works, how much money I've saved, how much better I feel. If they're interested, I tell them to come here to ECF and read (and read and read and....) and where I buy my gear.

The way I see it, they'll switch...or they won't. It really doesn't matter to me either way. And it certainly wouldn't make me harass them or get judgmental about them.

This sounds about right. I don't hate the person, I hate the smell.
 

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not even a little bit,,,,,,

I don't like the smell of cigarette smoke,,,,,,,but I think I'm pretty tolerant of it,,,,I don't make a big deal about coughing or being obnoxious when I smell it,,,,,,,,,,but I do hang out up wind of any smoking sections I'm forced to use to vape in,,,,,,

why would I hate smokers? I used to BE one,,,,,,,
 

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i dont hate smokers because i love telling someone i dont smoke anymore when they ask for an analog lol.
But my smoker friends seem to hate me and my pv! they have attitudes with me stating vaping will kill me or that its just the same or worse than analogs. I just inform them of what is in analogs and whats in ejuice. They pretty much shut up after that!
 

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Smoke them if you got them or vape it if you prefer. I hated being demonized as a smoker. I will never do that to a smoker. We are all different in this world. Whether we smoke, vape, eat to much, don't eat enough and the day I judge someone else for what they do, is the day I want to be judge by someone. That won't be until I reach the maker, then he she it can judge me (depending on your beliefs).
 

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But my smoker friends seem to hate me and my pv! they have attitudes with me stating vaping will kill me or that its just the same or worse than analogs. I just inform them of what is in analogs and whats in ejuice. They pretty much shut up after that!

So true Chablo...It's hard to argue against the truth, but some still do...I haven't had any of my smoker friends warn me against vaping yet, but as this becomes out in the news more and more it will be a tougher fight. Vape On!!!
 

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If I lay it all out for you and let you know it WORKS, I think it's crazy not to at least give it a go. Look at all you have to gain! I don't ever express these feelings out loud to anyone, but I did tell my ex all about how vaping has worked for me, and he hasn't made a single effort to try. I guess I feel like in some cases, it's selfish not to make an effort to try vaping. Mostly where there are children involved and limited incomes.

For some of us, like myself, I had to get to the point where I knew for a fact it was affecting my health. Having to consciously force myself to breathe is generally a good motivator. It's sort of like having a chest cold and not being able to smoke but as soon as you feel a little better, bam, pull out a smoke and light it up...hacking and coughing the whole time. Not everybody is ready to quit or wants to quit, but at least being out in public and raising vaping awareness more and more smokers are giving it a try.
 

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Do Vapers hate Smokers? not I for me as a 30+ year ex-smoker I have no right to pass judgment on anyone who smokes but it does bug me when they tell me I still smoke because I vape because I'm still using nicotine. I tell them that's like telling somebody they didn't quit drinking coffee because they are still getting caffeine in there diet coke but it falls on deaf ears.

So true. I've been told the same thing and it is :grr: so wrong...It's like telling a dieter that they really aren't dieting because they are still eating food.

Of coarse there are foods that have nicotine in them ===> 6 Common Foods with Nicotine Content ← Marmaris Bay Cruisers
It's probably not a large amount but it's still there and they are only listing 6 foods. Since it is in tobacco plants I'm sure it is in others as well.
 

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to me it sounds like a troll was talking.

After reading through all the posts again the Professor that wrote the blog article in support of vaping and e-Cigs is being attacked by ANTZ's. Any real honest vaper's who support the article get attacked by people pretending to be vapers. There are about 6 bloggers stalking the site. They were claiming that we as vaper's hate smokers. I tried to argue the point on several different levels but it grew tiresome very fast and then one of them claimed to be an ECF member. It was fun for a little while but it was just me in the battle and it is not fun for long when everything is twisted and more then a little mental...One of the older commenters that the Professor was trying to reason with linked back to a youtube video by a very strange fellow who goes by Joel Spitzer...Definitely ANTZ

[Edit] Delete photo - Add link to ANTZ video==>Dual use of cigarettes and electronic cigarettes - YouTube
 

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Wow, love whatcha have to say....my sentiments. We use to be smokers how can we "hate". That's just bizarre! One thing I told myself was I'm not gonna become a "Ex-Smoker" who goes around talking about smokers. I'm a vape-head that's what I am. I switched one for the other. My family's happy, doc's happy, but mostly I'm happy. Enough said.
 
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