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Havent ordered it yet kate , just trying to weigh up the cheapest options, but to be honest there's not a great deal difference.
Going direct to wayne and getting just the atomizer and 5 carts , then going to DE and getting 2 batts and a double charger works out at £31.06.( $54.90 )standard airmail, or with EMS shipping it's £38.42.( $67.90 )
When i do order it ( next week me thinx ) i'll go for a spare atomizer and 50 carts i reckon , keep me going for a bit plus save a little on shipping also as it'll be one consignment.
When it's here i'll post what i got exactly and total cost
Havent ordered it yet kate , just trying to weigh up the cheapest options, but to be honest there's not a great deal difference.
Going direct to wayne and getting just the atomizer and 5 carts , then going to DE and getting 2 batts and a double charger works out at £31.06.( $54.90 )standard airmail, or with EMS shipping it's £38.42.( $67.90 )
When i do order it ( next week me thinx ) i'll go for a spare atomizer and 50 carts i reckon , keep me going for a bit plus save a little on shipping also as it'll be one consignment.
When it's here i'll post what i got exactly and total cost
Buying direct does get you more though dude single atomizer and led cap from wayne then buying the rest of dealextreme .. 6 batts instead (2) twin charger rather than the single ruyan charger which is dangerous imo
let us know when it all arrives mate.
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the post about cleaning the bling atomizer was what ruyan told wayne from heavengifts sorry about the jumbled up post but firefox3 was going crazy at the time and locked up before i finished lol.. but you get the idea about what to do..the post was posted 3 times because every time i edited it..it was reposted and dusty deleted the wrong one my fault though or should i blame firefox he he chrome from now on until firefox3 is ironed out!
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If they are truly identical then it's not a comparison of value, as their value is identical; it's only a price comparison.
But don't be coy, Trog, say what you really mean. This is just another re-hashing of the brand versus generic argument. And in that case, the two are NOT truly "otherwise identical." If a brand comes with a one year guarantee, and the generic comes with 30 days, then it becomes a subjective judgement which one is a better value, even if they are the same device from the same manufacturer.
Trog, I have been trying to stay civil with you ever since my last temper tantrum, and I have been succeeding. But snarky comments like that make it damn hard. Please don't presume to tell me what concepts I have trouble with. Just because we disagree on what is a better value, doesn't mean I don't understand the concept of value.
As for my reviews, I always list the price, rate the performance, detail the guarantee and service, and leave the value judgement to the viewer/reader, as it should be.
You always have to give BS numbers and figures, don't you?
Kindly give me your example. What two ecigs do you have in mind, where one is 90% of the quality for 10% of the price of the other?Well, thank you for the compliment, but your use of "connoisseur" is puzzling. You seem to imply that someone who is highly knowledgeable (a connoisseur) is somehow different than a buyer. Or that the viewpoint of a highly knowledgeable person is different than that of a buyer. Or some such nonsense. How exactly do you see me as different than buyers? Let me clue you in; I'm not. I AM a buyer.
And, yes, I do put great store in quality. It is what I look for, and what I demand from any e-cig I reccomend. Lots of vapor, easy draw, reliable performance. I seem to recall you saying just recently that that's what you look for too, so maybe I'm not some special class of buyer, after all, eh?
We've danced this dance before, Trog.
You see me as a brand name booster. I'm not. But I have found a couple brands that have delivered superior quality and performance, and I also see value in a good guarantee. You do not agree. Still say value isn't subjective?
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Right back to e cigar thread..ive just ordered the generic e cigar (semi automatic) from dealextreme for dripping pillboxes 36mg..it gets good reveiws for £14 what a bargain..you can really abuse the atomizer at these prices hehe..knutselpeter seems impressed heres what he said.
Deal Extreme Generic E-Cigar Health Electronic Cigarette with Chargers Batteries and Refills.
Posted by knutselpeter on 12/8/2007
Involvement: Expert (understands the inner workings) - Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
(5 being highest mark)
Price: Fives stars
Ease of Use: Five stars
Build Quality: Four stars
Usefulness: Five star
Overall Rating: Five Stars
Pros: Easy to use
Works every time
Chapest E-smoker to buy
Lots of smoke
Cons: the switch cover looks handcut by a kindergarten kid
Other Thoughts: I am already an electronic smoker for some months now and all the outher (automatic) cigarettes / cigars / pipe are changing in smoke production each moment you use it.
But this one smokes optimal every time.
Bottomline: After testing it for 2 days I ordered 4 more immediately, so good is this item.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10100
Deal Extreme Generic E-Cigar Health Electronic Cigarette with Chargers Batteries and Refills.
Posted by knutselpeter on 12/8/2007
Involvement: Expert (understands the inner workings) - Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
(5 being highest mark)
Price: Fives stars
Ease of Use: Five stars
Build Quality: Four stars
Usefulness: Five star
Overall Rating: Five Stars
Pros: Easy to use
Works every time
Chapest E-smoker to buy
Lots of smoke
Cons: the switch cover looks handcut by a kindergarten kid
Other Thoughts: I am already an electronic smoker for some months now and all the outher (automatic) cigarettes / cigars / pipe are changing in smoke production each moment you use it.
But this one smokes optimal every time.
Bottomline: After testing it for 2 days I ordered 4 more immediately, so good is this item.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10100
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Kit I think you could have got this as cheap in the UK. I may be wrong but the box looks familiar have a look.
But I have never ordered from these but I was considering of buying a boat load if they were any good.
acupuncturesupply.co.uk
But I have never ordered from these but I was considering of buying a boat load if they were any good.
acupuncturesupply.co.uk
I think it my me slightly different mark.. the carts look different but the packaging is the same..might be a different manufacturer whos made it.. so performance might be different.. there all copys of the ruyan so who knows?
let me know when youve tried it...
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I thought it was worth a mention kit anyway . its the blue and gold box which seems to be the same and make me think is this the same one.
You going to get one ned.. im only going for the dealextreme because its had good reports of TB and knutselpeter.. and its still only £14 quid with free shipping..nice price for dripping..
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I probably won't bother at the moment kit I've got the gold as you know and pillbox cheapo and for the price of £19 99 works great.
But I might have three as the sedansa cigar got returned a few days ago saying we had addressed it all wrong so in all returning that twice would have cost me £25 but you could consider their cigar carts as they're not bad at all their Turkish which they give standard with their cigars and the Havana Cubana are quite nice to.
But I might have three as the sedansa cigar got returned a few days ago saying we had addressed it all wrong so in all returning that twice would have cost me £25 but you could consider their cigar carts as they're not bad at all their Turkish which they give standard with their cigars and the Havana Cubana are quite nice to.
Kit at the moment I'm trying to charge these ruyan batteries up in the pillbox charger as when they came charged last night they seemed to be weak and pillbox batteries work in the ruyan good.
When they were charging yesterday the batteries did not feel warm when charging like they normally do on pillbox charger.
When I first put the ruyan batteries on charge today with pillbox charger they were reading red for quite a while and now have gone to green so I think I will keep them on for a while yet to see if this improves them.
The sedansa cigar looks totally identical down in the atomiser chamber but the batteries that came with this are the same as pillbox cheapo batteries are common type which you normally see in grey and red the rating on these 3.6 V 360MAH but I know the ruyan at 3.7.
When they were charging yesterday the batteries did not feel warm when charging like they normally do on pillbox charger.
When I first put the ruyan batteries on charge today with pillbox charger they were reading red for quite a while and now have gone to green so I think I will keep them on for a while yet to see if this improves them.
The sedansa cigar looks totally identical down in the atomiser chamber but the batteries that came with this are the same as pillbox cheapo batteries are common type which you normally see in grey and red the rating on these 3.6 V 360MAH but I know the ruyan at 3.7.
followed your lead and just ordered one too Kit , along with 10440 batts and a charger. i'll use them with the bling too when i order it. £26 for the DE cigar, 4 batteries and the double charger....can u say BARGAIN !!
followed your lead and just ordered one too Kit , along with 10440 batts and a charger. i'll use them with the bling too when i order it. £26 for the DE cigar, 4 batteries and the double charger....can u say BARGAIN !!
BBBBBBBBBBBBBARRRRGAIN!
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Sedansa and ruyan cigar smoke pretty identical to each other as down inside the atomiser chamber look the same where the atomiser on these two brands is larger than your Generic type they both seemed to have an easier draw to them.
But saying this the mouthpiece sometimes does make a difference on the branded cartridges.
Example put a Janty cartridge on a Generic pen style and it will give it easier draw than the Generic cartridges.
All branded atomisers which I have tried sedansa, Janty,ruyan, are all bigger down inside than the Generic ones so the combination of the atomiser and the mouthpiece makes a difference
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