E2 Cartomizer Technical Discussion

[nowhereman]

I haven't been following very closely but can you buy these in the States yet ?

 

[timh]

this thing has been tested and re tested, it works and it wicks and it DOES NOT LEAK, nothing melts, nothing burns. this is what we wanted right??

If it does all that and still wicks good , we might have found the holy grail. Bad have you had a chance to test it?

 

[badkolo]

no no,soon though, the price has increased, but we knew that was going to happen.

 

[v1John]

I haven't been following very closely but can you buy these in the States yet ?

several posts ago we mentioned a few resources in the U.S., although they're probably the R3 and R3.5 versions.

We should be able to get the new version R4 from e-liquid now. If you are not a 1yr. paypal member, they also take western union.


The CE2 U.S. resources:
(just not revision4 yet at)

Originally Posted by v1John
vapor junction now sells 808d, 510 and 401 !
(great variety, shorts and xL)


others that I know of so far:

ivape.net
awesomevapor.com
cloudsofvapor.com

also per Turbo:
vaping.com
wordupecig.com

any other ecf-registered stateside resources?

 

[badkolo]

you can only preorder the R4, its not done, its still being tested by over 12 people as we speak, another day or 2 before prodcution.

 

[timh]

no no,soon though, the price has increased, but we knew that was going to happen.

but only about $2.30 more for 30

 

[v1John]

Note that the company will close Sep. 22,23,24 (this week and again between Oct 1 -7) , for the festival and National days soon. If you order now, it's still only Sep 21 over there, about 7a.m at the moment.

They need to fix the webpage, it says r4 near the top, but r3 near the bottom, on this page:
http://www.e-liquid.cn/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=113&products_id=297

 

[Turbo]

I am pleased to introduce you to the all new R4 NO JUNK IN THE TRUNK, that was a beta pic last night

Thanks for the pic. It looks promising, I'm sure their wording of 'anti leak fiber rubber' is a result of the language barrier. I would be curious to see what that is though. Are we back to two caps instead of three now? I see the filler ring and mouthpiece cap.

Can't wait until you review these.

 

[Quick1]

For the Last time.

Heat is Not a Unbounded Force. Measured Heat from a source is a Function of Many Variables but the two simplest are Linear Distance and Thermal Density (Energy per unit time per unit area).

Linear Distance is the Reason a camp fire feels cooler the Farther you sit from it.

Thermal Density is the Reason a Wooden match doesn’t feel as Hot a camp fire at the Same Distance.

"For the last time"... So you DO remember the previous discussion?

But what does this have to do with the price of bananas? He asked what the temp of the black stuff was when it glowed orange. What does linear distance and thermal density have to do with determining the temperature of the black gunk? We're not talking about chill factor here.

 

[debb]

I am pleased to introduce you to the all new R4 NO JUNK IN THE TRUNK, that was a beta pic last night

Good News! Thanks!

 

[v1John]

jmcan, the only diff is the sleev and the new fiber around the cup, it hold the same as before basicly. they changed the numbers as i told them to try not to over state numbers, thats why it was changed

I thought they meant that the fiber was the rubber.
If there really is a fiber lining the carto, then maybe the wick can go?
That could be great; the carto liner could be replaceable, and you could remove it for dry burns.

The only thing is that I don't think they do dry burns, that could be something that only a few vapers do, so how would they test the sleeve and everything else during dry burns?

 

[Turbo]

I thought they meant that the fiber was the rubber.
If there really is a fiber lining the carto, then maybe the wick can go?
That could be great; the carto liner could be replaceable, and you could remove it for dry burns

There's a separate arrow pointing to the rubber seal and another for the 'anti leak fiber rubber' around the slots I presume. I also see just the filler ring and mouthpiece so that may mean no second silicone piece?

 

[badkolo]

I thought they meant that the fiber was the rubber.
If there really is a fiber lining the carto, then maybe the wick can go?
That could be great; the carto liner could be replaceable, and you could remove it for dry burns.

The only thing is that I don't think they do dry burns, that could be something that only a few vapers do, so how would they test the sleeve and everything else during dry burns?

i guided them through that,lol it was dry burned tested .

 

[v1John]

We're not talking about chill factor here.

Speaking of the chill factor, I also remember now that during a dry burn, blowing air on the dark matter actually made it glow slightly brighter (it also expanded). Is it the result of a change in electrical resistance, or is it a function of dark matter itself

 

[Quick1]

Ummm... (for the third time) The resistance of the nichrome only changes about 3% for an increase in temperature from 20C to 300C. Why do you keep basing speculations on the assumption there is some huge delta in resistance?

 

[v1John]

I think because I was encouraged to measure the volts way out on the edge, way out on the left field of the cup, but I just go by the volts at the air stem, where the dark matter forms..but no, I'm not assuming there is a huge delta, even from getting rid of the one single loop that I don't want, by the edge of the cup....but then what's the final answer, that it glows brighter when you blow air on it because it has more air to burn?

 

[zoiDman]

Ummm... (for the third time) The resistance of the nichrome only changes about 3% for an increase in temperature from 20C to 300C.
...

How did you calculate the change of resistence to the change of temperature?

 

[v1John]

you can only preorder the R4, its not done, its still being tested by over 12 people as we speak, another day or 2 before prodcution.

with the festivities and holidays, production may not even start till after Oct 7
but I do hope that they do test them and correct them as the testing requires

 

[Scottbee]

How did you calculate the change of resistence to the change of temperature?

Lookie here:

Wire: Nichrome (tm) & Other Resistance Alloys - Tech Data

 

[Scottbee]

this thing has been tested and re tested, it works and it wicks and it DOES NOT LEAK, nothing melts, nothing burns. this is what we wanted right??

this isnt something they came up with this week, this has taken weeks to get the design right, i just teased you with a pic last night to wet your appetites and decieve you as well, that pic has sealant, i figured that would make some of you say wtf?
lol

you can only preorder the R4, its not done, its still being tested by over 12 people as we speak, another day or 2 before prodcution.

And R0, R1, R2, R3, and R3.5 were tested by what... nobody?

Did they issue you some nice pom-poms with that cheer-leading outfit?