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emsmom

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Thanks br! I have been quietly watching this thread and the other original one forever! With all the mixed reviews I was a bit nervous about getting these, but boy am I glad I took a chance!

Just got done with my first refill and the standard was ready. Took almost the entire .6ml. Refilled the XL at the same time and was amazed that it started over flowing after only about .5ml. I have been using these two all day!

I caved and let my son have one hit and he was amazed by the flavor! The subtle flavors that come thru on these is really something. Now if these just last a decent amount of time, I think I will be a total convert. I am really enjoying the warmer vapor and being able to take much shorter draws.

I am sure Monday is going to be a big day for those that haven't gotten their orders yet. Just hope I don't run across anymore bent threads! Mine are even working on cheap 801 to 510 adapters. I have not found any threading issues with mine, other than the one carto that was bent.

Thanks to all those original testers!!! Without all your feedback and suggestions, don't think these would be near as good. One thing that surprised me, I ordered the plain stainless and was surprised to find mine were not bare, they are covered with a silver paper?
 

v1John

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Bad is your tobacco pg/peg/vg? It sounds like it's pg. If it i,s does their pg make enough vapor? Between the peg and vg that I have, I think their vg makes the most vapor, off the charts, but the peg is real close behind it. I just wonder if I'm ready to try pg for stronger flavor once again... maybe a mixture of pg and their vg, their peg and vg do mix, I still think pg would have the most flavor of the 3. I quit buying a lot of pg a while ago, when the old filler cartos just couldn't produce enough vapor.
 

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Bad is your tobacco pg/peg/vg? It sounds like it's pg. If it i,s does their pg make enough vapor? Between the peg and vg that I have, I think their vg makes the most vapor, off the charts, but the peg is real close behind it. I just wonder if I'm ready to try pg for stronger flavor once again... maybe a mixture of pg and their vg, their peg and vg do mix, I still think pg would have the most flavor of the 3. I quit buying a lot of pg a while ago, when the old filler cartos just couldn't produce enough vapor.

mine where peg, good vapor, the mb and oriental are like other dekang juice but it uses a base that i dont like(so does johnson creek and halo), the base has its own woody smoky flavor to it and its even in the blueberry, so every flavor has this smoky undertone, not bad but to much of a trying to taste like a actuall analog, some will love it but not for me so if anyone wants 100ml of juice i have 3 bottles. If you like dekang youll like these and they give more vapor then peg.

im spoiled on nhalers octane tobacco flavors, nothing has topped that line of juice for me.
 

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I recieved my 808 ceramic cartos yesterday. they are the 3.7 volt version. I love them. Lots of vapor, lots of flavor. No nasty taste or smell. A bit of a pain to fill because I cant see the little holes very well, but I can live with it. I have used them at 6 volts with no issues. I take 2 or 3 small hits, then put it down for a few mins. No wicking problems at 6 volts.
I am done with cartos with filler.
 

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I recieved my 808 ceramic cartos yesterday. they are the 3.7 volt version. I love them. Lots of vapor, lots of flavor. No nasty taste or smell. A bit of a pain to fill because I cant see the little holes very well, but I can live with it. I have used them at 6 volts with no issues. I take 2 or 3 small hits, then put it down for a few mins. No wicking problems at 6 volts.
I am done with cartos with filler.
Just curious but you say you take 2 or 3 small hits and then put it down for a few minutes. Then you state that you have no wicking issues at 6v. If you have to put it down for a few minutes after just 2 or 3 small hits, it sounds like a wicking issue. I'm not trying to be smart here. I threw out the first E2 510's I bought and I don't want to waste money on the new ones if they don't provide a steady vape. Do they run dry?
 

jmcan

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Just curious but you say you take 2 or 3 small hits and then put it down for a few minutes. Then you state that you have no wicking issues at 6v. If you have to put it down for a few minutes after just 2 or 3 small hits, it sounds like a wicking issue. I'm not trying to be smart here. I threw out the first E2 510's I bought and I don't want to waste money on the new ones if they don't provide a steady vape. Do they run dry?

I dont HAVE to put it down after 2 or 3 small hits. That is the way I vape all the time. The same way I smoked a cig. You dont need a big hit with these. I have not had any problems with them running dry.
 

jmcan

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At 6v the juice probably burns quite easily, hence the long break. If this is the case, its better to vape at 3.7v and take a second or two longer to draw each vape.

These things perform quite well at their specified voltage. There is no need to use high voltage imo.

If there is no need for you to use hv, then that is good for you. I prefer the warmer vapor at 6 volts, and I dont like taking 7 to 10 second hits to get the feeling that I need. I just thought I would report for those who prefer hv.
To each his own.
 

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I won't have my XL's until tomorrow, but if they're just "as good" as the standard 510's I'm using now I'll be very close to retiring from mod/part shopping. I've been using the 510's since 7/27, and I'm still on 7 of the original 10 I opened up. I have to clean them after about 3 refills because of the juice I'm using, but they hold up well and still taste great. I don't know what the "daily cost" works out to with these, but it's pretty darn good. :)

I'm currently using these on a Little Sister, but I plan on getting the Big Brother when it comes out because of the larger battery. Good VV mod + E2 cartos + TV juice = Done!
 

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A small word of Warning on these E2 cartos...


A friend of mine emailed me to say that he just got some E2 510 XL's from e-Liquid.cn. He filled the first one and everything seemed good. But he wanted to do a side by side taste test with flavors that he had already in regular cartos. So he filled a second E2 510 XL and went to screw it onto his eGo.

He said that the threads seemed a little tight so he gave the carto a little more force to start it on his Janty eGo battery. Bad call. The threads on the carto broke off leaving pieces wedged in the battery threads and the carto.

After 20 minutes of picking metal out of the battery threads and chasing them with a regular 510 carto he was able to save the battery.

He also told me that out of the first E2 510 XL 5 pack, another carto had mis-cut threads on it and would not go on his eGo. The lead thread was broken and the rest were poorly shaped.

So you might want to be cautious when threading these E2 cartos into your PV for the first time. And If they don't thread in normally, I would use extreme caution with them.

Either that or pick up a metric die and chase the treads yourself. 7mm-x-.5mm ?
 
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