They replaced two KR808D batteries for me no questions asked, but I doubt they would have sent them to me if I hadn't had another order waiting to go out.
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They replaced two KR808D batteries for me no questions asked, but I doubt they would have sent them to me if I hadn't had another order waiting to go out.
Maybe we need a E2 Survial Guide which explains things like Deformed Connectors, Leaking Seals and Lack of Refund from e-Liquid.cn ???
I'm getting burned out on all the BS that goes along with these Cartos. When they work, they are better than regular cartos. But there is so many things to deal with and throwing away 25% of them because the threads are FUBAR is great.
Food Lion is open 24/7 I think.
Haha, not the ones around here, but I'll get there.
Ok Patty, but reload your pic, I can't see it.
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I agree with y'all that ecf needs an e2 subforum
The e2 is certainly a good carto and can't be ignored or disregarded. Threads need to be better organized.
If there is a subforum called 'outside' or 'sandbox' I'm sure we definitely need a subforum for something as important as the e2. Granted, it's been only recently introduced, and people are still learning how to build them, but there is no excuse NOT to have an e2 subforum. Even if it's the last one on the bottom, past the sandbox, I don't mind, but we need this to better organized, instead of having good review videos, good issue pictures, good design suggestions, etc. all packed into hard to find places buried in 2,000 post threads.
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It's allways about next time. It will be better, next time. Trust me.
I'm not going to give them anymore of My money for a long while. I'll let the young Turks fix the rev"4"'s. Or the 5's or 6's.
How do you "address" damaged threads? I have this picture of a company memo...
"To all employees,
For US orders only:
Starting next Monday, DO NOT package any E2s with visibly damaged threads.
Visibly damaged threads are to be forwarded to the group handling Euro and
Canadian shipments.
Thank you for your attention in this matter,
The Management"
oh of coarse, but if you want to go on a complaining streak well then they made that pretty easy for us, from faulty threads to glue to leaks and so on.
We have been getting the shaft for weeks now with half being ok while the other half sucked and its even continuing with the newest revision with the leaks and connectors.
but today gave me hope becuase its spot on today with this mod.
the funny thing is id like to know who are they listening too. It sure isnt me, i relay messages like leaks and connectors and how they need to get on ball but the none of the design changes they made where my idea.
Obviously they arent addressing the past mistakes, they are sold and thats that in thier minds and we have to take the brunt of it, not fair, not right but im here for the long haul and it is what it is but they need to try different ideas, test it , then let us test it then release it.
We have been getting the shaft for weeks now with half being ok while the other half sucked and its even continuing with the newest revision with the leaks and connectors.
but today gave me hope becuase its spot on today with this mod.
the funny thing is id like to know who are they listening too. It sure isnt me, i relay messages like leaks and connectors and how they need to get on ball but the none of the design changes they made where my idea.
Obviously they arent addressing the past mistakes, they are sold and thats that in thier minds and we have to take the brunt of it, not fair, not right but im here for the long haul and it is what it is but they need to try different ideas, test it , then let us test it then release it.
Adding more thoughts, I wonder if it was the carto being too narrow, and the wick rubbing against it that caused to lose vaporiziation quality.
The carto shell is metal, and robs heat from the old wick rubbing aginst it, and could it cause a sudden and drastic temperature differntial within the wick in the small distance between the part that's in the cup and the part that's against the metal casing? when I put the ptb, it also put a thin layer of ptb between the carto metal and the wick, causing it to not touch the metal and insulating the wick better, perhaps for a less drastic, less sudden, intrawick temperature change in such a short distance?
I dunno yet.
but I like it
The carto shell is metal, and robs heat from the old wick rubbing aginst it, and could it cause a sudden and drastic temperature differntial within the wick in the small distance between the part that's in the cup and the part that's against the metal casing? when I put the ptb, it also put a thin layer of ptb between the carto metal and the wick, causing it to not touch the metal and insulating the wick better, perhaps for a less drastic, less sudden, intrawick temperature change in such a short distance?
I dunno yet.
but I like it
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When you write them are you using any !'s? You have to use lots of !!'s.
OK.. too much nic. Must sleep now *hic*.
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Ok Patty, but reload your pic, I can't see it. QUOTE]
Back from snack. While I was eating, I left the e2 upside down on a paper towel and nothing leaked out. Nothing notable there
John - my digital camera is a piece of crap. There's no way I can get a decent pic until I get a better camera. And until I stop buying vaping stuff, a new camera isn't in the budget <sigh>.
C'mon Ghetto I'm waiting for your report before I hit the hay. I'm old and need my sleep.
From the communications i have they do seem to want to fix them, i cant say otherwise for that wouldnt be the truth. Every convo we had dealt with the issues and he freely discussed them and knew about them.
there is a slight language barrier but its doable, but im talking to one person whos talking to another who talks to another to solve the issues. It seems every change stops everything, cost them time, money and so on. Im not making excuses for anyone in anyway, i dont work for them nor do i have a stake in these things and if they cant solve these issues its all on them to fail.
They said they where battling the issue of price as well, making them perfect will indeed raise the price and i guess thats a balancing act since these are suppose to be disposable.
but all that means nothing if they cant fix the simplest of things and then make that constant throughout production, im hoping they nail this down and get on the right path.
Since they do read this thread I will repeat what needs to be fixed or looked at even if some have been fixed and sent to me to test this week.
1. Check the connectors, some have dented threads like in zoidmans pics. That could cause battery damage and also is 1.20 down the drain because its not usable.
2. Fix the leak under the cup where it meets the stem. (they said this has been fixed so we will see).
3. remove the primer completely from the wick in production.( they said this has been done and there is no more primer on the wick).
4. Make sure everyone receives the ohms they purchased. Many have received lower ohms then what they ordered for the Xl 510.
I dont know what to say about the slit area and what should be done about that so please add to the list of what needs to be done at the slits area and plug issue.
maybe a wicking sleeve aorund the cup to simulate the ptb mod???
there is a slight language barrier but its doable, but im talking to one person whos talking to another who talks to another to solve the issues. It seems every change stops everything, cost them time, money and so on. Im not making excuses for anyone in anyway, i dont work for them nor do i have a stake in these things and if they cant solve these issues its all on them to fail.
They said they where battling the issue of price as well, making them perfect will indeed raise the price and i guess thats a balancing act since these are suppose to be disposable.
but all that means nothing if they cant fix the simplest of things and then make that constant throughout production, im hoping they nail this down and get on the right path.
Since they do read this thread I will repeat what needs to be fixed or looked at even if some have been fixed and sent to me to test this week.
1. Check the connectors, some have dented threads like in zoidmans pics. That could cause battery damage and also is 1.20 down the drain because its not usable.
2. Fix the leak under the cup where it meets the stem. (they said this has been fixed so we will see).
3. remove the primer completely from the wick in production.( they said this has been done and there is no more primer on the wick).
4. Make sure everyone receives the ohms they purchased. Many have received lower ohms then what they ordered for the Xl 510.
I dont know what to say about the slit area and what should be done about that so please add to the list of what needs to be done at the slits area and plug issue.
maybe a wicking sleeve aorund the cup to simulate the ptb mod???
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Hey! How about they just send along a box of Pyramid Tea with each order? The Chinese like tea, right?
5. We now now the slots work perfectly the way they are, THE CUP IS PERFECT, it was just naked.
The cup needs a ptb glove.
6. The wick needs to be no longer than 1" in length.
7. They should sell spare ptb gloves
8. I need some PRE-production samples too, NOT post-production lol, and they need lots of sampling people, because too many testing people use strange ecigs, or water in ther diy mixes, etc., and I and countless smokers just want electronic cigarettes, not complicated expensive device boxes.
9. Now I really think the top of the xL carto needs to be unscrewable at a point below the cup even more than before. We need to be able to replace the glove as needed, and at the same time, this will make the syringe history.
Syringes do not appeal to many smokers, someone needs to let them know. It,s not good marketing, when so many people don't want to mess with syringes, the FDA filed an appeal and the fda is back in national news wanting to regulate the U.S. and the last thing the U.S. needs is the new E2 that will now require people to buy syriges!. Unscrewing the top part of the carto would be a lot safer now too, because of the ptb glove. PLEASE also be sure to use plenty of threads there, don't be skimpy and DON"T just put 3 little threads holding the carto together.
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The cup needs a ptb glove.
6. The wick needs to be no longer than 1" in length.
7. They should sell spare ptb gloves
8. I need some PRE-production samples too, NOT post-production lol, and they need lots of sampling people, because too many testing people use strange ecigs, or water in ther diy mixes, etc., and I and countless smokers just want electronic cigarettes, not complicated expensive device boxes.
9. Now I really think the top of the xL carto needs to be unscrewable at a point below the cup even more than before. We need to be able to replace the glove as needed, and at the same time, this will make the syringe history.
Syringes do not appeal to many smokers, someone needs to let them know. It,s not good marketing, when so many people don't want to mess with syringes, the FDA filed an appeal and the fda is back in national news wanting to regulate the U.S. and the last thing the U.S. needs is the new E2 that will now require people to buy syriges!. Unscrewing the top part of the carto would be a lot safer now too, because of the ptb glove. PLEASE also be sure to use plenty of threads there, don't be skimpy and DON"T just put 3 little threads holding the carto together.
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I just did the ptb thing. Six plys between the slots and the tube. The vape is very good. But then the vape was very good before putting it there. What am I doing wrong?
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