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Can't say I'd go with the plastic cup part, but I do like anything modified.

Had you modified the plastic cup type the way I did, then you would understand the reason for my statement. BTW, I never had one that was damaged by heat when used normally with the recommended voltage. This included dry burns. My mod also worked with narrow and wide slots in the cup. I can't help it if none of you paid any attention to what this old fart was saying way back there somewhere, heheh.
 

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Had you modified the plastic cup type the way I did, then you would understand the reason for my statement. BTW, I never had one that was damaged by heat when used normally with the recommended voltage. This included dry burns. My mod also worked with narrow and wide slots in the cup. I can't help it if none of you paid any attention to what this old fart was saying way back there somewhere, heheh.

Yeah, what can I say, we young wipper snappers never listen do we....
 

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Had you modified the plastic cup type the way I did, then you would understand the reason for my statement. BTW, I never had one that was damaged by heat when used normally with the recommended voltage. This included dry burns. My mod also worked with narrow and wide slots in the cup. I can't help it if none of you paid any attention to what this old fart was saying way back there somewhere, heheh.

my issue with the plastic cups where that after extended use the plastic, right at the slits would thin out and warp(enlarge) and also when it got hot in dry burns i swear i would smell plastic.
 

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Had you modified the plastic cup type the way I did, then you would understand the reason for my statement. BTW, I never had one that was damaged by heat when used normally with the recommended voltage. This included dry burns. My mod also worked with narrow and wide slots in the cup. I can't help it if none of you paid any attention to what this old fart was saying way back there somewhere, heheh.

We're all glade YOU still pay attention :2cool:
 

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my issue with the plastic cups where that after extended use the plastic, right at the slits would thin out and warp(enlarge) and also when it got hot in dry burns i swear i would smell plastic.

You kids just won't listen, will you? You were not using yours with my mod. Jeez........
 

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As previously stated, I am testing an E2 with narrow wick slits. I also stated that it wicks better with the filler ring removed. Now I understand why. It is because the filler ring fits too tight on the plastic cup and causes the narrow slit to close up further on the wick. At this point of the game, this really doesn't matter, but it got me to thinking about something else. I'll discuss that later. But first, look at a plastic cup with a wider slot:

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As can be seen, the cup is distorted and the slot is more narrow at the top. The filler ring caused this distortion. The distortion probably remains set that way because of the heat involved. Of course, a ceramic cup will keep this from happening, but that's beside the point.

The point now is that I found something else that perfectly fits the rim of the plastic cup. Before going any further, please understand that this is a test. It is not meant for everyone to do this, or for that matter even try it.

The rubber mouthpiece of the E2 fits on the cup. All you have to do is push it down in there far enough. The outer rim under the mouthpiece goes all the way down to the wick. The inner rim is slightly shorter and does not touch the coil. Tests at this time indicate that the seal is just as good or maybe better than the plastic filler ring. But that's also beside the point.

A thin rubber mouthpiece from an older cartomizer can be used to push the new one down to the cup. The old one will go almost all the way in, lacking about 1/32". Now we're getting to the point. If these two pieces were one, then we would have one single piece replacing the original two. If this single piece could be easily removed, then we could fill the E2 directly from a bottle.

Now I am not suggesting that this single piece should me made from the same type material as a rubber mouthpiece. I have already thought of a few things that should work. You can probably think of a few things too.

For the time being, I am using this frigging rigging on an E2 with wide slots. It is working well with a 510 type battery and fair enough with the higher voltage of a KR8 battery. The rubber will melt with a butane lighter, heheh. However, that has not yet been a problem during actual use.

If any of you kids want to try this, wash your hands and wash these pieces before playing with them. Use soap.

Why the washing?
 

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OK I am away working my .... off for a week and this thread just spirals out of control! So....I have 2 E2 XLs left I think, cheapest place, including shipping, to stock up on another pack? :D

Single pack? Good luck, I think most people are out.
 

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OK I am away working my .... off for a week and this thread just spirals out of control! So....I have 2 E2 XLs left I think, cheapest place, including shipping, to stock up on another pack? :D

I get mine from COV...use em right out of the pack...Good quality... too.. :)
 

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Why the washing?

Even if you think your hands are clean, just the oil from your skin can change the taste of your juice.

About the cup. The opening in the old plastic filler ring was not large enough. Regardless of the slot width, it pinched it almost closed and reduced the wicking. The groove in the mouthpiece opened the slot up and kept it that way while in use. With my mod, this cup did not leak like the ceramic cups do. Not from the slots and not from the stem. I have 3 of them that still work fine (one with narrow slits).

The problem is, they don't hold enough juice. I think the XL's use the wrong method to make them hold more.
 
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Yeah and a lot faster than I was hoping to...

and after I told my kids to use soap, I had to tell them to dry off after they got out of the tub. Use a towel. If I didn't tell them exactly how to do things, their excuse was always, "But you didn't tell me to do it that way."
 

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and after I told my kids to use soap, I had to tell them to dry off after they got out of the tub. Use a towel. If I didn't tell them exactly how to do things, their excuse was always, "But you didn't tell me to do it that way."

And my father would have told me not to be stupid.
 
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