It's not a hybrid if it accepts a 510.
Half of the confusion is from incorrect information coming from using the wrong terminology.
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It's not a hybrid if it accepts a 510.
Half of the confusion is from incorrect information coming from using the wrong terminology.
I'm glad you know what works for you. I use a REO, so no hybrid or faux-hybrid in my daily rotation either, though I do own a 4nine clone and really like it, mainly for the looks and the size of it.
Perhaps this will help:Can you (or anyone) tell me what this "hybrid look" thing is?
I keep seeing it, but haven't got a clue.
1) side and top views of the two top caps that come with the Wotofo Phantom mod. The center pin cap is on the left, the "faux hybrid" or "hybrid look" cap on the right. You can easily see, on the hybrid cap, it is simply a flat plate of metal, threaded M20 x 1 around the outside to fit in the tube; with three holes bored through it, a big one in the center threaded M7 x .5 to accept the outer 510 threads of any atomizer and two smaller vent holes. The rest of the 510 connection just sticks down inside the tube with the battery.
2) Side and bottom views of a true hybrid atomizer; this one happens to be an Elm. You can easily see there is no 510 connection; the outer edge of the bottom of the atomizer is threaded M20 x 1 to fit directly in to the tube. Further, the positive contact protrudes some 5.5mm, according to my calipers, below any possible connection to the atty shell and thus battery negative.
3) The Elm partially and completely threaded into the Wotofo Phantom mod tube. Note it is not possible to use this atomizer on this tube in practice unless you go down to an 18500 battery, one of which I don't happen to have handy. The battery length plus the positive contact length makes it impossible to screw the atty into the tube with a battery installed.
Strongly depends on the center pin. A brass or stainless pin... enough to maybe lose a contest; not that a casual "clouds, bra" vaper would know the difference. A Rhodium plated C110 copper pin... You'd need a meter that cost more than the mod to measure it.
The actual issue here is lack of knowledge, isn't it? They don't know that, for all it's Gospel.
I hate the nappy things. It's just too easy to get a serious problem with them. Still worse, perhaps, I can do the math, and I know how much energy is contained in that shiny 18650 battery, and what it looks like to release that amount of energy in a few milliseconds. It give me nightmares, frankly. That kid with the burnt face is lucky, not unlucky. It could have been worse. A lot worse. All that said, I freely agree that a knowledgeable user who pays careful attention to his atomizer center pin, battery quality and careful assembly at each battery change can, in fact, use them safely. Me? I wouldn't have one in the house. If I had to have the reduced length, I'd blow the coin for a true hybrid atty or go without.
50% correct anyway.
No reason in the world for a shop to stop selling Mechanical mods. In fact projections are, Mechanical sales will rise again before year end.
Sales of anything Vape related to minors should stop.
If the parents disagree............Let them commit the crime.
Its just plain irresponsible, majority of shoppers arent aware of the dangers of an exploding battery from a short, the shops duty is to try to sell them regulated mods and heavily suggest not using the mech mods as it can blow up from user error, imo its for advanced users
I disagree.
The majority of shoppers are very well educated.
There are always a few idiots in every crowd.
Shoppers should educate themselves on the products they go out of their way to buy, before they buy them.
Critical thinking is required to be safe in life.
Depending on others to think for you won't end well.
Blind Logic.
No one said a Shop owner needs to be irresponsible.................and Mechs do NOT Blow up. They get Ripped apart from Batteries that Expand and/or Explode.
No, wait, you are absolutely correct and All Ultra-Sports Cars should Be Banned from Production/Sale. You cannot teach someone to Drive one Safely if they don't want to learn.
Aircraft need to go. They fall out of the Sky, even in the hands of Trained Pilots.
Don't even get me started on Boats!
Ummmm..........so much for Freedom of Choice
* Cars gotta Go:
Blind Logic.
No one said a Shop owner needs to be irresponsible.................and Mechs do NOT Blow up. They get Ripped apart from Batteries that Expand and/or Explode.
No, wait, you are absolutely correct and All Ultra-Sports Cars should Be Banned from Production/Sale. You cannot teach someone to Drive one Safely if they don't want to learn.
Aircraft need to go. They fall out of the Sky, even in the hands of Trained Pilots.
Don't even get me started on Boats!
Ummmm..........so much for Freedom of Choice
* Cars gotta Go:
I'm with ya on the boat thing.
Those are terrible products that suck money out of you like a whirlpool.
-B.O.A.T.=
Break Out Another Thousand.
A boat is a big hole in the water that you throw money into.
We should ban them for our savings sake.
Well there's counterfeit batteries, cheap batteries, wrong chemistry batteries. I thought if using the correct chemistry that they wouldn't explode, just burn your pants off or something.
well some mods form a sealed container when the batteries get hot and expand so when they vent pressure builds up in the mod until it ruptures violently. don't know why they put vent holes on the bottom instead of on the top where the battery vent is located. I drill top vent holes in all my mechanical mods to prevent this pressure build up but have never had a battery overheat or vent.
Mechanical mods are not meant to be used so hard the batteries explode.
They are meant to only be used by vapers who understand how to safely use them.
There are lots of mods with top vent holes available to anyone who wishes to buy one.
Anyone using a mechanical mod without doing research is a straight up fool.
No nicer way to say it.
Funny thing about that..........It seems from every Deliberate Battery venting Experiment I have seen, and there are many on Youtube/other media sources, the Battery starts Venting long before any swelling/separations happen.
i.e. there is almost no chance of not receiving some advanced warning.
Can you guys please clarify something for me, as I only use mech mods?
I have only had one 'situation'.
I use only gennies. And when you set up the gennies, you have to 'pulse out' the build to get the coils to fire evenly. I only subohm on my dual coil genny, 0.5 or 0.6 Ω. I use AW IMR 18650 to build, and the Tesla Sub Box to vape the sub ohm genny.
So I was building a clone dual-coil genny, and nothing got really warm, or hot, or anything. Was pulsing it out, and i saw a spark out of the corner of my eye. The mod got HOT. Like touching an electric stove burner.
So i immediately unscrewed the button off, and took out the battery. Battery looked fine. Voltage was fine. I still use the battery today.
Pos pin insulator on the atty melted, causing a dead short. I no longer use these attys (Dome clone).
My question is this. I knew immediately, that something was drastically wrong, and stopped doing what I was doing. So how does it get to the point where the battery is venting and the mod is exploding?
Are people really stressing out their batts this much? How can they hold the mod?? I'm not kidding. My mod got like a curling iron!!
I have only had one 'situation'.
I use only gennies. And when you set up the gennies, you have to 'pulse out' the build to get the coils to fire evenly. I only subohm on my dual coil genny, 0.5 or 0.6 Ω. I use AW IMR 18650 to build, and the Tesla Sub Box to vape the sub ohm genny.
So I was building a clone dual-coil genny, and nothing got really warm, or hot, or anything. Was pulsing it out, and i saw a spark out of the corner of my eye. The mod got HOT. Like touching an electric stove burner.
So i immediately unscrewed the button off, and took out the battery. Battery looked fine. Voltage was fine. I still use the battery today.
Pos pin insulator on the atty melted, causing a dead short. I no longer use these attys (Dome clone).
My question is this. I knew immediately, that something was drastically wrong, and stopped doing what I was doing. So how does it get to the point where the battery is venting and the mod is exploding?
Are people really stressing out their batts this much? How can they hold the mod?? I'm not kidding. My mod got like a curling iron!!
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