Some good points, I agree with you. Who cares what someone else is using or not using. Someone using a non-rebuildable may just be in the beginning or middle of a transition from smoking, I think it's safe to say most vapers started with a non-rebuildable tank or dripper. Maybe they like the convenience of not having to build coils and can easily pop one in when needed. The point of vaping is to get people to stop smoking or at least cut down their intake of cigarette smoking, not to get in to rebuilding, not everyone has the money or inttrest to want or need to rebuild. I use mech mods and rebuildables, and I use a VV/VW mod with glassomizers, when I don't want to build anything, maybe I'm a fake vapor too since I use both.
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Some good points, I agree with you. Who cares what someone else is using or not using. Someone using a non-rebuildable may just be in the beginning or middle of a transition from smoking, I think it's safe to say most vapers started with a non-rebuildable tank or dripper. Maybe they like the convenience of not having to build coils and can easily pop one in when needed. The point of vaping is to get people to stop smoking or at least cut down their intake of cigarette smoking, not to get in to rebuilding, not everyone has the money or inttrest to want or need to rebuild. I use mech mods and rebuildables, and I use a VV/VW mod with glassomizers, when I don't want to build anything, maybe I'm a fake vapor too since I use both.
I loved the taste and smell of cigarettes. I still love the smell 6 months later and find myself attracted to smoking circles to catch a whiff. I frequently miss the taste of the first drag on a cig. Taste and smell are very subjective. I really wish there existed an ejuice that had the smell and taste of a real cigarette.
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I think you totally missed the point of my comments. Also I think you are totally out of line. I was just trying to defend the point of the other poster whom you jumped on.
If you weren't in such a rage you would have noted that I said that ego set ups are perfectly ok and they did work for me. I am just commenting on my personal experience. Nothing more. In the hopes of maybe helping someone else here that may be going through similar experiences. I didn't attack you or say your gear wasn't good enough. If you consider trying to help fellow vapers as being "elitist" than I guess I'm guilty. I always get a kick out of how whenever the word Provari gets mentioned someone yells elitist.
As for whatever name you were calling me when referring to the statement about my friends being"told" their gear is inadaquate. All I can say is these people told me they didn't want to bother with it. Just because it wasn't good enough for them doesn't mean it isn't good enough for you. Did I say it was not good enough for you?
I do agree with you on one thing. Who cares if you smoke or vape or both.
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I can agree with part of your point of view, but I would not describe anything but the highly human tendency toward elitism as tragic, here. In many aspects of life, it creates segregation and conflict where there should be none. I agree that we can be better than that.
To that end, I think that this discussion is timely, and necessary. How else can we, as a group with common interests, better understand the diversity of the membership of this group?
I've long seen that those who still smoke to some degree often feel somewhat alienated here, because of sentiments such as what has been expressed about dual-users, here. I'd bet that several who have responded to counter such views hesitated, until others spoke up first, just because of the perceived shaming.
Some of the more inquisitive membership, including several who didn't find plain nicotine liquid to do much of anything for them, have presented some interesting theories about the complicated nature of smoking addiction. Notice that I did not say nicotine addiction, because that's being proven more and more each day to be an inaccurate label, for many. There are many anecdotes spread around here, but I'll point out one: Madame Psychosis Summary - Pt 1.
While it could have started in a better way, I think it's always a good thing to get people talking about their differences, together.
On a side note...I saw a lady at the grocery store last night... Her cart was full of cookies and ice cream, brownie mix and doughnuts, frozen pizza and burritos.....then....oh man, I don't even know if I can tell you this story .......then, she grabs a 12 pack of DIET COKE!!!!! I was so mad I wanted to scream!!! I wanted to ram her with my cart and pin her to the produce aisle!!!!! I said eat healthy and drink Diet Coke or eat junk food and drink regular Coke! YOU CAN'T DO BOTH!!!!! Sorry guys, I just had to get that off my chest.....still trying to calm down here. I hate that lady.
Lol, maybe she just prefers the taste of diet coke?
I sometimes wonder if people think this about me. About 5 years ago I lost 68 lbs and I've kept it off since then. Sometimes I go out for a splurge and I will get a nasty cheeseburger at red robin or smashburger, and I always get a diet soda to go with it. I wonder if people are judging and thinking that the diet coke wouldn't make any difference with a nasty cheeseburger and fries, but I'm used to drinking it, and I figure why add even more empty calories to my empty calorie splurge?
Lol, maybe she just prefers the taste of diet coke?
I sometimes wonder if people think this about me. About 5 years ago I lost 68 lbs and I've kept it off since then. Sometimes I go out for a splurge and I will get a nasty cheeseburger at red robin or smashburger, and I always get a diet soda to go with it. I wonder if people are judging and thinking that the diet coke wouldn't make any difference with a nasty cheeseburger and fries, but I'm used to drinking it, and I figure why add even more empty calories to my empty calorie splurge?
Lol...hi Spazmelda! Congrats on the weight loss! I was just having fun with the opening post. Nothing wrong with a burger and diet coke!
Why does it make you mad when people make choices that are different than the ones you make?
Have you considered that there may have been people who felt that way about you, when you were buying cigarettes?
What strength juice are you vaping? Whatever it is, you should increase it.
I do both. I just do it the other way around: I eat healthy and I drink regular coke. I even use sugar (gasp!) in my coffee.
I heard there were studies recently showing artificial sweetener triggers fat building in the body the same way sugar does. Thus;
"Just for the taste of it; Diet Coke."
I have a friend who literally smokes a pack a day AND chain vapes. Makes me sick
Rossum...please go to the attic...move all of those boxes and find the old trunk in the corner. Open it up and see if your sense of humor is in there. There was absolutely nothing serious about that post. It was a sarcastic facsimile of the opening post. If you read my other comments in this thread, you'll see that I don't agree with judging others for the decisions they make. Lighten up, Francis.Why does it make you mad when people make choices that are different than the ones you make?
Have you considered that there may have been people who felt that way about you, when you were buying cigarettes?
What strength juice are you vaping? Whatever it is, you should increase it.
I do both. I just do it the other way around: I eat healthy and I drink regular coke. I even use sugar (gasp!) in my coffee.
Apologies; My brain obviously didn't correlate the post I replied to with others you may have made in this thread. Please please pretend my response was a tongue-in-cheek comeback to your sarcasm, OK?
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Agree on the sarcasm emoticon! In this of all threads, I forgot people can actually be that extreme and judgmental. Sorry Rossum and Spazmelda....9 times out of 10, my comments are for fun.
I picked up the sarcasm of post #127, but will admit it was challenging as it nailed the passion of OP which also can be read as sarcasm, but apparently wasn't intended that way.
I mean how can you read in OP:
And not laugh, and laugh, and laugh.
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