fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

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So back to work today after Easter and a chance to use a good workshop
So I took in the "Cobra Clone" (nothing like the Cobra) or as DiscountVapors calls it the Stainless Top Griffin rebuildable and decided to bore out the wick hole to something useful like 1/8th

Yeah wishful thinking that 1/8th could be bored out from something that was 2.3mm (0.09 inches 3/32)

Well I just made it, yeah I cant believe it either... so here are the pictures, yes it took out just the edge above the rubber seal inside the tank but it clears the rubber by half a mm, the wick will be scraping down the side of the center post for sure

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Yikes! That is tight mate. Certainly wont be coiling that with the wick in place :).
 

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oh and these top plates are like brass when drilled, definately not stainless but its chrome colour so I dont know what metal flakes like brass but is not brass...

Sounds like they went all out on quality materials for that one. That DID must be looking better all the time :).
 

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Well it actually vapes OK...

but I am not happy with the wrap because I rushed it, I didnt expect it to fit, but there is clearance all around it, the wrap as you can see is not so tight on the top wrap and bottom wrap looking at it glowing a little brighter than the center one....

but heh I can vape it and its not a burnt taste and the wick has plenty of play in it....


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So I received my 1/8th fc2000 today and didn't realize I ordered the 1.5" instead of the 1.75" lol, that shouldn't be a problem though. My first setup worked pretty well, used the Elias method and seems to work pretty good. I loaded it with liquid I didn't like very much because I didn't want to waste some of my favorite juices during the break in period.

I was just wondering though, how will I know when it's ok to turn up the voltage? Does the Elias method help/eliminate the break-in period? Do I have to break in the wick every time I clean the wick? And has anyone figured out how long these last?
 

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I was just wondering though, how will I know when it's ok to turn up the voltage? Does the Elias method help/eliminate the break-in period? Do I have to break in the wick every time I clean the wick? And has anyone figured out how long these last?

Congrats on joining the Fishy-wickers (is that a word?). Anyway, when I'm breaking in a new ceramic, I just start @ about 3.3 volts/6.5 watts for an hour or so trying to keep the wick as wet as possible (tilt it a lot). I slowly increase the wattage a little at a time over the next day or so (for at least a tankful, but try to keep the tank topped-off during break-in). You can tell if you are going too fast - when you increase the voltage, the flavor will usually taste "off" (some say it tastes like concrete). If it does, just back off the voltage to where you were, and give it a little more vape-time until you try again.

Sounds complicated, but it's really not.....normally about midway through your second tank or so, it will suddenly just go "Aha!" and you can put the spurs to it and run it at whatever wattage you like.....good to go.

You only have to do this once for a ceramic wick - its seems to be some kind of conditioning process, because even after cleaning them, they go right back to perfect flavor from first vape. I torch-cleaned them at first, but now just run mine through an ultrasonic cleaner. They also seem to last forever (unless you break them).
I still use the first one I made months ago....its almost like they just get better and better with use.

Have fun.
 
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So I received my 1/8th fc2000 today and didn't realize I ordered the 1.5" instead of the 1.75" lol, that shouldn't be a problem though. My first setup worked pretty well, used the Elias method and seems to work pretty good. I loaded it with liquid I didn't like very much because I didn't want to waste some of my favorite juices during the break in period.

I was just wondering though, how will I know when it's ok to turn up the voltage? Does the Elias method help/eliminate the break-in period? Do I have to break in the wick every time I clean the wick? And has anyone figured out how long these last?

I run mine on a mechanical mod, and my coils are around 0.9 - 1.2 ohms the lower seems to be better for me, but really its a personal choice as to how high you run it.

My method of wrapping the coil is almost 0 run in time I do the following.

I usually run it for a little till I see the wire and wick darken a touch maybe 5 burns or 5 seconds with around 5 seconds or more between burns to allow the wicking to start, I tend to run a higher PG at the beginning like 70/30 PG/VG and then after a tank go to my normal mix of 50/50 and can chain vape it till the tank goes dry on the second tank.

When the juice starts to loose its flavor I will remove it as the guys recommended here and I torch the wick with the wire coil in place make it glow red hot (careful cause it spits when you take it out and re-torch it) and then I place it back in the tank and repeat the above step, I get around 2 weeks before needing to clean the wick, I cant remeber how long the guys here are getting but I would say its similar to what I get.

That being said when I am at work I dont take my rebuildable, I use my carto tanks when at the office because I carry a spare carto tank with juice as I have had to many things go wrong in the past with my mesh wicks so I dont chance it anymore, however now with the ceramics I might just start again.

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Well that was a project.... cut me a 1/8th fish wick today, bored Aga-T to 9/64 with a B&D dremel to allow space for the 1/8th wick based on recomendations.

wrapping the coil via elias hot method turned out to be hard with the 1/8th as opposed to the 3/32; dont have nothing to hold it with except fingers. the 1/8th get way hotter and stays hotter when torching, so i was hard to keep consistent heat on it when wrapping. ended up with a semi-loose coil.

3 wraps, 30g kanthal @ 1ohm -- running provari at 3.0 volts. lots of smoke, but a little harsh. just have to let it break in. got to get me something like a dowel to hold it for a better wrap. but all in all, the 1/8th hits like a champ, at low voltage too.

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You are right. I was opposed/sceptic until I did an EHW myself.:)
I was AMAZED how resilient this wire was when yellow hot.

at that time the hot wrap wasnt out yet but i was thinking about something close. anyways i just tried a hand wrap on one of my set-ups, didnt come out to good so i had to hot wrap. a poor hot wrap is still better then a good hand wrap. thanks elias
 

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the break in period is kind of dependent on just how tight you can get the coils. i have done a coil that was just super tight and the break in period was like 1/4 tank. the last time i did a wrap it was on one of the newer fc wicks, it didnt seem to hot wrap as good. i must have hot wrapped 3 times to get it right and it still wasnt perfect. i always look at the finished coil under a magnifying glass, this will show any gaps. on the last coil i had one very tiny gap, and believe me, the vape will tell you. with this very tiny gap the coil took like a tank to a tank and a half to fully break in. with the naked eye you might think it is tight, but it may not. either way it just depends on the tightness of the coil. if not fully broken in, you will get some dry hits. you may get 2 or 3 good vapes, but then a dry vape, on a mechanical you just have to deal with this or use a battery that is more depleated. if you have it set up on a vv device, just keep the volts down. also the top and bottom coil can be tight initially but loosen up after expanding & contracting. i had this happen to me a couple of times, especially with a spring connection at the pp. so i also check to see if any new gaps happen at the top or bottom coils, if so they can be tightened up, this will also help. it seems like once the coils break in everything gets stable, but initially you may have to do some tweaking, but then sometimes it is just perfect from the start and nothing needs to be tweaked.
 

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Well that was a project.... cut me a 1/8th fish wick today, bored Aga-T to 9/64 with a B&D dremel to allow space for the 1/8th wick based on recomendations.

wrapping the coil via elias hot method turned out to be hard with the 1/8th as opposed to the 3/32; dont have nothing to hold it with except fingers. the 1/8th get way hotter and stays hotter when torching, so i was hard to keep consistent heat on it when wrapping. ended up with a semi-loose coil.

3 wraps, 30g kanthal @ 1ohm -- running provari at 3.0 volts. lots of smoke, but a little harsh. just have to let it break in. got to get me something like a dowel to hold it for a better wrap. but all in all, the 1/8th hits like a champ, at low voltage too.

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once that puppy breaks in 100 percent, 3.5volts, here we come
 

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Well that was a project.... cut me a 1/8th fish wick today, bored Aga-T to 9/64 with a B&D dremel to allow space for the 1/8th wick based on recomendations.

wrapping the coil via elias hot method turned out to be hard with the 1/8th as opposed to the 3/32; dont have nothing to hold it with except fingers. the 1/8th get way hotter and stays hotter when torching, so i was hard to keep consistent heat on it when wrapping. ended up with a semi-loose coil.

3 wraps, 30g kanthal @ 1ohm -- running provari at 3.0 volts. lots of smoke, but a little harsh. just have to let it break in. got to get me something like a dowel to hold it for a better wrap. but all in all, the 1/8th hits like a champ, at low voltage too.

3AymoNT.jpg

you dont need no stinking dowel, it only burns for a few seconds
 

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vapdivrr i got it a few months ago. still want an rsst. this thing is fugly

but honstly, i want a dam tank thats not 4 inches long. theres no freakin reason for the top cap to be so long. or the tank for that matter!!! the freakin things are 1/2 the lenth of a provari!

and dude... you cant hold a wick and hot wrap it. i tried. and i got a high pain tollerance.
 
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