fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

[zygote]

I am going to attempt to drill my ZAP to accomidate the 1/8 " wick a bit better for a looser fit, so I don't screw this up what size would you people recommend?
I only want to do this once...just sayin.

Frog WAIT zen is having zeramic wicks made from the manufacture made for the Zenz with more bigger pores and grooves from the top to the bottom. Or something to that effect, that will still need to be tipped a little but are supposed to give better wicking

I am still not getting sufficient wicking after cutting my own grooves and sanding the wick going through the atty base, it's like sucking a thick milkshake through a thin straw.

Not giving up, I am determined to make these work.

Waz up all been a while, still having fun, thank vapdiver.

 

[FrogHat]

I know he's coming out with the ZAP "2" I wasn't aware he was coming out with wicks to fit the current model. I wonder if he knows what we need

 

[SteveW]

Anyone done any research on zirconium felt?

Ceramic Oxide Fabricators Australia Pty Ltd - Alumina Ceramics and Zirconia Oxygen Sensors

 

[Elias]

Frog WAIT zen is having zeramic wicks made from the manufacture made for the Zenz with more bigger pores and grooves from the top to the bottom. Or something to that effect, that will still need to be tipped a little but are supposed to give better wicking

I am still not getting sufficient wicking after cutting my own grooves and sanding the wick going through the atty base, it's like sucking a thick milkshake through a thin straw.

Not giving up, I am determined to make these work.

Waz up all been a while, still having fun, thank vapdiver.

Better wicking and tipping doesnt sit well with me cause I dont tip and my ceramic wicks just fine as it does with a number of people in here. Seems that the low resistance vapors have a better result from what I am reading, Im on around 0.8 - 1.0 ohms on the 1/8th wick, I was never successful with the ribbon kanthal kept getting dry hits the wrap was never tight enough I guess....

As far as the thick milkshake through a thin straw many of us have experienced that, heck I use cartos on a mechanical mod for when I am at the office and feels like that at the end of a day I can tell you by the time I get home I am hanging to get my AGA-T out to get a vapor that is thick and enjoyable.

At one stage I was using 60VG to 40PG and high voltage to get a thick vape, but then I looked around at the smokers of analogues and saw that they were exhaling so much less smoke than I was exhaling vapor even though I felt I needed more vapor. Lately Ive increased the nicotine gone back to 60/40 PG/VG and find that it produces a nice vape in my carto tanks and a superb vape in the AGA-T with 1/8th ceramic FC2000 wick using 30 awg kanthal 4/3 turns.

Keep at it, you will find a nice sweet spot I am sure of it because its just a matter of trial and error and what you want from a vape, I guess what I am saying is look back at what you were getting out of a fiberglass wick, flavor etc, then your stainless wick and notice the others you may know who smoke and draw a comparison...

but its good to see your not giving up, it really is worth the time and effort to find your sweet spot....

Elias

 

[SteveW]

I know he's coming out with the ZAP "2" I wasn't aware he was coming out with wicks to fit the current model. I wonder if he knows what we need

I posted a Busardo video several pages back Froggy where Zen talks about the ceramic wicks coming as standard with the new Zaps and another Zen model that will come with the ceramic pre-installed. Check it out to see what the buzz is all about.

 

[vapdivrr]

Well I just got my ceramic wicks in....I boiled them 2 mins and changed out the water and boiled them again for 2 mins. and then put them in straight VG were they sit right now. I knew my man VAPdivrr had this thread and I have been reading through it and you guys went over my head...hot wrap? grooves? German wicks? Zen wicks? Wow I think I will take my AC9 and my RSST and just wrap it with my 8mm ribbon wire and go for it. These babies are expensive and I waited a long time to get some. Vap..besides not breaking them what is the most important thing to watch with these? I like to wrap my coil off the RBA...made some really good coils that I will be tearing down for this...

with the ribbon you may want to look into the turspedie method(post#1457) this is an alternative to the ehw method for ribbon. the main thing is the tightness of the coils, and for ribbon this is especially true. i guess if your good at hand wrapping ribbon you could give it a go but the .8 ribbon might be tough. if you do not get the ribbon tight on the wick you will get some dry hits for some time until the gunk builds up, this can take a while to happen. another way you might want to try is the cheesec cloth thread. this is added to the wick before coiling, this takes up the gaps. i havent done much ribbon, the couple of times i did do it, i did the turspedie way, and it worked pretty good, although it did take about a half tank to break in. the safest & quickest way to get a good vape is to wrap the 1/8 wick with 30g and do a few wraps of cheese cloth before coiling. this way it is not imperitive that you use the ehw method, you could just cc, then hand wrap, and you will be vaping with little break in time. the tighter the better with ceramic, and the ehw does this the best for me. so definatly when you ask " besides not breaking them, what is the most important thing to watch" it would be the tightness of the coil. what genny are you using? if using a zap, watch the top cap when taking it off, this cap is a wick eater, also if using a zap, i believe you have to cut down the wicks slightly before installing. besides this, just expect some break in time, and dont push the volts to high at first, once she breaks in then you can go up.

 

[vapdivrr]

Frog WAIT zen is having zeramic wicks made from the manufacture made for the Zenz with more bigger pores and grooves from the top to the bottom. Or something to that effect, that will still need to be tipped a little but are supposed to give better wicking

I am still not getting sufficient wicking after cutting my own grooves and sanding the wick going through the atty base, it's like sucking a thick milkshake through a thin straw.

Not giving up, I am determined to make these work.

Waz up all been a while, still having fun, thank vapdiver.

the difference in you making your grooves compared to the ones comming out will be like you said, the newer ones are definatly opened up more, so i believe they will work better in the zap. zyg, you also are using a zap?

 

[vapdivrr]

I know he's coming out with the ZAP "2" I wasn't aware he was coming out with wicks to fit the current model. I wonder if he knows what we need

frog, so have you tried the 7/64 size in the zap?

 

[vapdivrr]

Anyone done any research on zirconium felt?

Ceramic Oxide Fabricators Australia Pty Ltd - Alumina Ceramics and Zirconia Oxygen Sensors

havent myself but i love the sound of zirconia, dont know what it is but it sounds very cool, very futuristic.

 

[gdeal]

Wow a couple days off and this thread hits >2000 posts. Are we grooving the FC-2000 or sticking with the stock version? I see the benefit of grooves for additional surface area for juice flow, but I am trying to wrap my head around why a groove in a tight wick hole would better better than under-sizing the wick ~.5mm in wick hole? From my experience any micro gap between wick and coil is a source for a hot spot.

I can see grooving the wick below the coil, but not underneath at the coil. Then again I have not tried it yet so this is all hypothetical for me. Anybody have experiences here?

 

[Hokus]

Been reading up on this thread the past few hours, you guys have some great info here!

I've got my first hybrid and ceramics coming in on Saturday, so we will see how it goes

 

[FrogHat]

frog, so have you tried the 7/64 size in the zap?

No but that is an option when I get home, I am too close to leaving Japan to order anything right now.

 

[NamVet68]

Wow a couple days off and this thread hits >2000 posts. Are we grooving the FC-2000 or sticking with the stock version? I see the benefit of grooves for additional surface area for juice flow, but I am trying to wrap my head around why a groove in a tight wick hole would better better than under-sizing the wick ~.5mm in wick hole? From my experience any micro gap between wick and coil is a source for a hot spot.

I can see grooving the wick below the coil, but not underneath at the coil. Then again I have not tried it yet so this is all hypothetical for me. Anybody have experiences here?

I wrapped a 1/8 inch yesterday with a grooved wick. Even though my grooves are pretty wide (I don't have any super-thin diamond wheels) - no hotspots at all with .5X.1 Ribbon Kanthal. Just a nice even glow... Setup was easy-peasy.

Its running very well...wicks like crazy (I even put the fill hole plug back in - no difference in wicking). Great clouds of vapor & good flavors, the only problem is that it blows through juice like nothing else I've ever used before!



One more thing; the ceramics tend to mute throat hit to a certain degree - using this setup, its back. I think the TH is almost identical to a Stainless wick - though a bit smoother. Just an interesting side effect....

 

[Hello World]

One more thing; the ceramics tend to mute throat hit to a certain degree - using this setup, its back. I think the TH is almost identical to a Stainless wick - though a bit smoother. Just an interesting side effect....

Nothing describes that more accurately word for word.

SS merely seems to give a harsher TH, and thus people think it's more. In fact I get far more TH with ceramic wicks, but it's a smoother, non-harshy vape, and I much prefer it, and I'm no longer lunging for a drink after a heavy vaping session. That is esp. so much more pronounced with the newer FC-2000s too.

Its running very well...wicks like crazy (I even put the fill hole plug back in - no difference in wicking). Great clouds of vapor & good flavors, the only problem is that it blows through juice like nothing else I've ever used before!

I'm going through 12ml a day ... I DIY, so I don't need to budget ...

My setup is a 1/8 (3.2mm) wick in a 5/32 (4.0mm) hole ... probably does much the same thing you are experiencing, as I also have plenty of airflow in the wickhole, filler screw back on, and she don't leak horizontally.

 

[04stinugget]

So I just jumped on the ceramic wick bandwagon on the rsst ato I received today in my vapemail. boiled as required and wrapped a 4 wrapped coil got my coils nice and spaced out and filled tank. let the wick soak a few minutes to get nice and saturated. WOW. If what everyone is saying about the flavor coming alive after the first few tanks I can't wait. this stuff is ridiculous. I can taste little nuances of flavors I never knew where in my juice. After finding that certain flavors were very muted in my AGA after the first tank or so I decided to give the ceramics a while and I don't think I'll be going back to mesh again.

 

[SteveW]

So I just jumped on the ceramic wick bandwagon on the rsst ato I received today in my vapemail. boiled as required and wrapped a 4 wrapped coil got my coils nice and spaced out and filled tank. let the wick soak a few minutes to get nice and saturated. WOW. If what everyone is saying about the flavor coming alive after the first few tanks I can't wait. this stuff is ridiculous. I can taste little nuances of flavors I never knew where in my juice. After finding that certain flavors were very muted in my AGA after the first tank or so I decided to give the ceramics a while and I don't think I'll be going back to mesh again.

Great to hear. What you are describing is exactly what I experienced. I could not believe just how good the juice tasted. Even juices I thought I did not like suddenly tasted incredible. I wish more people would give this a go at least to see what we have been talking about.

 

[vapdivrr]

hey guys, i recieved a few of the 1/8 slotted wicks today and just finished a set-up. did a 2/3 wrap of 28g @ .7Ω. this is the best ceramic wick to date. i figured i would try out something to really test out this new design, and let me tell you this wick is really performing well. i did a video on this wick and set-up with a elias hot wrap, just to show how i specifically do a hot wrap. elias, i hope you dont mind, i did give you a few plugs. my u-tube subscribers just wanted to see my take on it, so thanks. the wick performed pretty well right off the bat, but now after about a half tank it is blowing some of the biggest clouds to date. these slots do help with the heat sink alot and now the 1/8 is very fast indeed. after i down load to u-tube i will post the vid here.

 

[SteveW]

hey guys, i recieved a few of the 1/8 slotted wicks today and just finished a set-up. did a 2/3 wrap of 28g @ .7Ω. this is the best ceramic wick to date. i figured i would try out something to really test out this new design, and let me tell you this wick is really performing well. i did a video on this wick and set-up with a elias hot wrap, just to show how i specifically do a hot wrap. elias, i hope you dont mind, i did give you a few plugs. my u-tube subscribers just wanted to see my take on it, so thanks. the wick performed pretty well right off the bat, but now after about a half tank it is blowing some of the biggest clouds to date. these slots do help with the heat sink alot and now the 1/8 is very fast indeed. after i down load to u-tube i will post the vid here.

Are these generally available yet mate or did you receive them to test?

 

[Keithhe]

For what it's worth....

I have a pile now of the AGA-T2's most of which were from the SoulFree CoOp where we had the manufacturer drill these out for us to 1/8". They were a little under that, but quite close. My first delve into the ceramic with the AGA though was with one of the originals I bought at DV. I drilled that one out to 1/8.

After over a week, using 1/8" FC-2000 with 30awg and the EHW method, this thing is amazing. For cleaning, all I do between flavors is run it under water in the sink through fill hole, turn upside down and shake out water and repeat several times. This worked well for the last about 10 days, but today was too gunked up. So I dry burned it for a while to charcoal up the stuff, rinse, burn and then decided to use the Flavor Flush I bought for my drippers and burned that a few drops at a time. rinsed very well and refilled. Just like new. Have never has to rewrap a thing, yet, have a pile of 1/8 wicks still here, as I've only broken one by dropping a Zmax on it while it sat on the table.

Now I'm going to set up the other 5 the same way. No slotted wicks for me yet, but interesting to hear about that. Frankly, these are working great for me with my 50/50 mix at 1.3 ohms. Plenty of flavor and lots of vap.

Thanks to all those on this thread I've been reading now for the last 6-7 weeks for all the great information.

 

[vapdivrr]