fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

[MF DOOM]

Ughh, SS is straight rubbish. "Yeah, lets use a conductive material, yet HAVE to do things that might expose a short.

I think the fellow who "invented" this was a bit short.

Ceramic 4l...SS is like an idiot test...who still bothers with that?

"Oh me, I do...me too..." you must be patient...um, how about I pull out this clearo and not taste metal/burnt juice from a hotspot.


Trash.

 

[MF DOOM]

And for the record, not that anyone GAF, I have conceded ANNOYANCE...meaning, I'm done with the AGA, until I receive some ceramic. There is no working with SS.

This almost feels like a description of a small mod we all make to our devices..."if I have to mod it..." I'm even considering wrapping the mesh in string where it sits in the hole.

Unbelievable. All this rba hype...I almost feel like going around and holding all the SS advocates personally responsible.

 

[Hokus]

And for the record, not that anyone GAF, I have conceded ANNOYANCE...meaning, I'm done with the AGA, until I receive some ceramic. There is no working with SS.

This almost feels like a description of a small mod we all make to our devices..."if I have to mod it..." I'm even considering wrapping the mesh in string where it sits in the hole.

Unbelievable. All this RBA hype...I almost feel like going around and holding all the SS advocates personally responsible.

I tried ss .. once.. not a fan and not worth the effort .. I'll just use my vivi nova

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[MF DOOM]

I tried ss .. once.. not a fan and not worth the effort .. I'll just use my vivi nova

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Hey Hokus bro. It isn't...your post is so full circle...back to the Nova...

 

[Hello World]

And for the record, not that anyone GAF, I have conceded ANNOYANCE...meaning, I'm done with the AGA, until I receive some ceramic. There is no working with SS.

This almost feels like a description of a small mod we all make to our devices..."if I have to mod it..." I'm even considering wrapping the mesh in string where it sits in the hole.

Unbelievable. All this RBA hype...I almost feel like going around and holding all the SS advocates personally responsible.

I can work with SS mesh quite well, have quite a few in my bags of tricks, but it continues to be not only a high-maintenance nuisance, but also everything about the ceramic wick is now superior to SS mesh, including, but not limited to flavor, juice uptake, TH (My opinion) and no electrical issues. As long as one can work with somewhat frail ceramic material (Yes, 1 or 2 will break from time to time) and becomes expert at it after a while, this is the best vape I've come across so far, and loving it.

And yes, there are still people very fond of SS mesh who haven't tried ceramic yet. But I believe those days are numbered.

 

[SteveW]

Hey MF, welcome to the thread mate. Sounds like you have been having a hard time with the SS mesh. There are a lot of reasons to embrace this new genesis technology and I guess your frustrations reflect one of those good reasons. The challenge has always been one of material properties. What can we use that will wick juice and at the same time not become consumed by high temperatures? Not an easy riddle to solve. SS mesh has been one of those solutions on the road to a perfect wicking material. Many still swear by it and have become proficient in building very good wicks. Even now our ceramics, as good as they are, would find it hard to compete with the wicking ability of a well made SS but that said, we do have the conductivity thing completely defeated. Here again though, ceramic is not unique in that hemp, silica, cotton etc are also not conductive and all have their pluses and minuses. Those of us that use them appreciate some very unique characteristics like flavour and resilience (these things just last and last) but you could also get very frustrated with these as well. They are VERY fragile. We have all broken a good number of these in our learning journey. Every path you go down involves a learning curve and ceramics are no different. I hope you are very happy with porous ceramics as many of us are but please be prepared to spend some time learning how to work with them. Just like SS there are some fundamentals that need to be appreciated. Your nightmare with conductivity however, will at last be over, that I can promise .

 

[MF DOOM]

The ceramic looks like it is going to down shift and leave the dreaded SS in the dust. I've handled materials much finer...and certainly more expensive. That being the ONLY factor, aside from some people saying they taste stone. My coils aren't a problem. It's the wick. What were gennys designed for? And if this IS the original wick style...why are the insulated wick-hole models in the few? Mind blowing. It's almost like the simplicity was willingly avoided. The wick is the cheapest, most expendable DAMN part of my AGA, yet, it is it's weak link.

Rant_over.

 

[Hello World]

That being the ONLY factor, aside from some people saying they taste stone.

The newest ceramic wicks released in the latter part of March are Ok, they don't have that stone or concrete taste anymore, nor do any of them have that SS harshness. Ceramic wicks are an evolving adventure, and it keeps getting better all the time. The more people get on board, the harder the envelope gets pushed to come up with something better, esp. when a buck is to be made. Hey, I'll gladly part with my bucks for better products ...

 

[FrogHat]

I'll gladly part with my bucks for better products ...

If it makes it better for us.....I'm all about it

 

[gdeal]

Hey MF DOOM, not much to add to both Hellow Worlds and SteveW's posts.

SS wicks for me have become more of a secondary hobby to try different approaches/configs for fun, really just because all my ceramic based atties are working so well. And as SteveW stated, they are so resilient and once set up they stay setup. No wire/resistance drift, no out of nowhere shorts and they stay cleaner. I would even say that with a Hot Wrap, the learning curve is 10 times easier than SS Mesh. The stone taste thing is subjective. If you go from SS mesh to Ceramic, you may pick up a slight flavor change of "stone". But once you primarily vape ceramic, when you go back to SS mesh, you now have a slight taste of metal.

If you are interested, go check out Raidy's thread, you can see how things progressed with Gennies. Just getting the overall concept together was a major accomplishment. While the thread is a monster, its really good way to understand a part of vaping history which in not that old.

[EDIT: If you are interested, I posted awhile back in that thread a summary of select Raidys post with links directly to his posts. That guy really is awesome. Heres the link to my post: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/132663-all-my-mods-part1-61.html#post7612719 ]

Sounds like you will have no problem with ceramic builds. Next rant will probably be about the lack of availability, but I am sure that will be solved shortly....

 

[Elias]

Off Subject but Id thought I'd share

Stainless Steel Bolts, Bar, Tube have all arrived and I will be machining tomorrow at the office.

Going to also make an atty while I am at it, all 22.2mm heck I have the machinery at hand so I might as well make myself a few...

Just need to get a tap and die 21mm 0.75 pitch which will have to wait now cause of funds....

The guys at work say that even though the machine is quite capable of cutting threads at even 0.5 pitch that I will be there for ages before I actually make a good thread work on the inside of the stainless tube.... Im going to try but.... they know better than I do.

My machining experience is only 5 years, Ive made some nice stuff in the past mainly custom motor parts and much larger, I cant imagine this to be too challenging, already designed the switch (tricky buggers to get right in CAD and keeping in mind machining)

its a nice little project....

 

[SteveW]

Exciting times mate. It will be great to see it take shape. Hope it turns out to be a ripper of a mod.

 

[vapdivrr]

hey guys these are the evolution of the fc-2000 wicks. i am pretty sure the first one is on the left and the newest slotted is on the right. i should of turned the slotted wick to make the actual slotts visable.

 

[vapdivrr]

Hey Vap ...

How do these slotted wicks hold up horizontally? Do they leak?

If you have some details, esp. clearance distance between wick and wickhole it would be something I could work with.
Well done on getting a hold of these wicks and reporting your findings to us. Cheers.

they do not leak horizontally for the speed of vaporization stays in time with the juice flow. for me this is been the first time i can hold device at the 1 to 2 oclock position and fire the device at 22 watts and the coils do not glow. now this has happened before but at much lower wattages. the clearance seems about the same as a standard 1/8 ceramic wick.

 

[Hokus]

Very nice. . I would love to get my hands on a slotted wick

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[vapdivrr]

Where did you get them ?

last week when i was able to contact the maker of these fc-2000 wicks, to ask him about our concerns about the make up of his wicks(which i posted) he said he would mail me some to try. they will be out for purchase soon.

 

[gdeal]

Nice Vap. I see what you were saying about the lava like roughness of the slotted wicks. I think the ones I have are the second from the right. So it looks from the pic that they went bigger with the grains and a more open pore structure, right?

 

[Hello World]

they do not leak horizontally for the speed of vaporization stays in time with the juice flow. for me this is been the first time i can hold device at the 1 to 2 oclock position and fire the device at 22 watts and the coils do not glow. now this has happened before but at much lower wattages. the clearance seems about the same as a standard 1/8 ceramic wick.

Hey Vap ...

I meant leave horizontally overnight, but seeing that these slots aren't that wide, I'd imagine it would be in par with the currently available wicks as far as potential leakage is concerned.

 

[vapdivrr]

finally got to see the video, great vid by the way, very descriptive, clear and precise anyone can follow it and get the exact same result, well done
Ive since started using a jewlers hand drill to grip the ceramic after seeing someone else do it, fingers got burnt a few too many times.... lol
like the toothpic wedge and carto everyone has them sitting around, simplicity...

with that top coil going hot what I do is fire it up and use a toothpic to push the wire against the wick, I also wrap the excess wire back to the point where the wick and kanthal touch so in essence the kanthal is double thickness from the center post until the edge of the first wrap starting point on the wick, again someone here showed that in a pic and I tried it and it works well.

Thats a serious amount of vapor by the way

Well done

thanks elias, you mentioned about the good amount of vapor in the video, well after about a half tank the vapor is probably twice that amount now, this newer wick imo is the best so far and is producing some very nice clouds.

 

[vapdivrr]

So yesterday, just before I was about to get ready to go out for the weekend, I did a wet burn and still couldn't get the gunk off it tasted burnt and noticed the middle coils somehow got loose, so I decided to recoil it. As I'm doing the hot wrap, I must have applied too much pressure because I don't use anything except for some pliers to hold one side of the kanthal... Because it snapped! Around the area where the temperature was cooler on the wick. I tear rolled down my face, I thought, "fudge! Now I have to go out while having to break in the wick again?!" However, for an unknown reason the last wick I put in is hitting much better from the last. Could it be from the other liquid I used being darker and a little think? I'm not sure, but threw in my current all day vape and I'm loving it! The break in time on this one was only 1 hour of on and off vaping. That was the drive up to my cousin's house.

Cool note, went to a karaoke bar last night and the waitress said it was ok for us to vape! There were only 2 other beginner vapers there in our room... Of course my vapor was bigger and tastier! And because I brought out my k100 with an ac9 on that, I couldn't set it down with all my cousins being drunk (I had to drive so I took a few shots with the birthday celebrant so I can sober up before we went home. So whenever the wanted to use mine, I'd pull out my opus with a regular atty on it.

hey buddy welcome to this thread, you mentioned about one particular ceramic wick possibly being better then a previous one? well this is very possible, its just the way they are made. you can have 2 exact looking wicks from the same batch and one can be quite different in performance to the other. they do try to make them consistant but from what the maker has told me it is very hard . he said that in one wick you can have an open space much larger then in an other, i guess its just the nature of alumina. i know for me i have had this one particular wick that has been much better then the others.