Then you didn't get it. The numbers are meaningless, they are place holders used only to show the different parameters that the two studies, posted before, are looking at.
It isn't supposed to be.
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Ever wonder why retail NET manufactures offer their NETs with a 0mg nic option? Wonder why comprehensive scientific analysis of NET concludes it has no appreciable nic in it until liquid nic is added? You can't vape tobacco absolute straight, it must be adequately diluted before it's "useable", therein lies the problem. The amount of tobacco contained in a single pack of cigarettes provides an average smoker with -one- days worth of nic. That same amount of tobacco, when extracted, produces enough extract to flavor -many months- worth of NET. Nicotine IS leeched from the tobacco during extraction but it is so diluted as to be insignificant in the final mixed NET. Retail NET manufacturers know this, experienced extractors know this and lab tests have verified this. Unless you can tolerate vaping straight tobacco absolute you aren't going to get an usable level of nic...... unless you add it.
This section is about DIY, not about what NET manufacturers have and have not figured out.
The same simple soak solvent extraction methods used by us are also used by most of the major retail NET manufacturers, many of them were active members here on ECF before striking out into the business world. Same process, same results.
Don't get me wrong, it is spot on with the results of what one may excpect from a straight extraction into PG and/or VG.
But, that is only one way to skin this cat.
The problem I have is the implications that since NET manufacturers do things a certain way than that is the only way. This is the place where we can bounce ideas around about other ways of doing things.
Also, Str8vision has a very artesanal approach to NETs. Nothing wrong with that but it is an approach which might be fine for some but it might not be what others are after.
There we are. My point exactly.
Please, don't bundle us all into the same group. I don't want what you or retail NET makers are producing.
The OP's purpose for this thread was to ask questions concerning a simple soak solvent based extraction of tobacco. This exact same method of extraction is used by most retail NET manufacturers and hobbyist alike. The OP was concerned about nicotine content and you incorrectly inferred there would be a significant amount in his finished NET. The information I provided is "directly relevant" to this type of extraction and is based on scientific analysis of NET made using this specific method of extraction. With this information, viewers can make an "educated" decision on what to expect from their homemade NET. The truth is very little nicotine is present in a mixed NET, therefore, if it's desired, a person must add the desired amount when mixing.
Yes, but you were replying to me not the OP.
Besides, the OP asked for 0nic. Low amounts is not 0mg. Whatever NET manufacturers tested at has no relation to what the OP might end up with in their kitchen.
What information? The study you posted stated an average of 15.6mg/ml nic content in the NETs. I don't see any information saying that the nic was added. It actually leaves a big question mark about the issue:
ETA: The study I posted indicates that there is indeed a large amount of nicotine extracted from leaves using a simple soak. Although diluted, it is in there.
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Just caught the discrepancy, in 2.2.1. Nicotine:
Nicotine (≥99% CAS 54-11-05): Sigma-Aldrich is freebase nicotine so they only measured for nonprotonated nicotine and did not include protonated nicotine (nicotine salts).
Tobacco contains 85% of it's nicotine in salt form so, these numbers don't represent a true measure of the total nic extracted from the tobacco.
ETA: Probably explains the 15-20% deviation.
Nicotine (≥99% CAS 54-11-05): Sigma-Aldrich is freebase nicotine so they only measured for nonprotonated nicotine and did not include protonated nicotine (nicotine salts).
Tobacco contains 85% of it's nicotine in salt form so, these numbers don't represent a true measure of the total nic extracted from the tobacco.
ETA: Probably explains the 15-20% deviation.
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A typical cigar is made using 4 or more different tobaccos with the entire blend - wrapper, binder, filler(s) - contributing to the cigar’s flavor and strength. I shred the entire cigar, wrapper and all, for extraction.
For great cigar flavor you might also extract Cornell & Diehl's "Billy Budd" a pipe tobacco that has a generous portion of maduro cigar leaf in the blend.
I Just started My First Diy N.E.T. Im trying Black N Mild And Grape Swisher. Hope they will turn out good.
Going to let the soak for 1 to 2 months.
Going to let the soak for 1 to 2 months.
Can anyone explain to me why N.E.T.'s Sometimes have a floral type taste to them ? Is it just me or have other people experienced this.
Thanks
Thanks
I just tried my Black N Mild N.E.T It sat in 70pg/30vg Only for one day. I have to say holy crap its very very good you get the vanilla flavor to and the robust tobacco flavor. Im very impressed
Im going to try the grape swisher to in a few days im hoping it will get the slight grape flavor. The best way to Do N.E.T.'s is do it yourself it really works
Im going to try the grape swisher to in a few days im hoping it will get the slight grape flavor. The best way to Do N.E.T.'s is do it yourself it really works
Im probley going to let both sit for around 3 weeks or 4. The grape swisher seems like it might take longer than the black n mild it's not to dark yet.
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