That breakdown would have been more useful it it broke down device type: mechanical, internal battery regulated, replaceable battery regulated, etc.
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That breakdown would have been more useful it it broke down device type: mechanical, internal battery regulated, replaceable battery regulated, etc.
Injuries to his face show it was a vape pen that exploded burning 80% of his body. Uh, no, the fire did that. Why are they not doing any research whatsoever? I mean doesnt common sense tell you an e cig cant explode and burn your whole body? Garbage reporting.
I also have removed the batteries from my laptops, and I just use them by plugging into a power strip at my desk. I unplug them after use at night and when I'm leaving the house to go somewhere.
They're all DELL, and 1 is the full-size Inspiron, while 2 of them are the little Inspiron Mini 10's. Battery is only installed if I'm taking 1 of them somewhere with me.
Really? Common sense tells you that an e-cig can't explode and burn your whole body?
Riiiiiight.Lets examine the known facts and use some common sense.
What caused the fire? Common sense says it was the lithium ion battery being used. These are the batteries that "e-cigs" use, and are capable of causing massive bodily injury and property damage if abused/misused. They can also cause fires.
The fire started in the victim's bedroom, and common sense says bedrooms typically have numerous combustabiles present to escalate any fire (sheets, pillows, mattresses, drapery, carpet). Since the autopsy report said the mod explosion sent projectiles into the victim's head causing his death, common sense says he was not able to address the fire which quickly raged out of control and burnt most of his body.
This particular incident appears to have been a perfect storm of a tragedy. The user was using a mechanical mod which had no vent holes to allow gas from a venting/exploding battery to escape the enclosed metal tube, so common sense says it was in effect a perfect pipe bomb.
The television reporters interviewed a vape shop, who explained that the device used was a mechanical mod which has no protective electronics and exploded because of a battery failure.
We don't know specifically what batteries (make and model) the victim used, and we may never know if they were damaged beyond recognition. I believe the mod manufacturer said the victim may have been using "clone" batteries (counterfeit or re-wraps?) and that may well have been the case, or not.
Common sense says the victim was using a dangerous battery device and should have known and accepted the risk he was taking using it. It didn't go well for him.
Reporters said that the story will be ongoing as more information is uncovered. What more did the report need to say to satisfy you? I think you are being overly harsh in your criticism.
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Really? Common sense tells you that an e-cig can't explode and burn your whole body?
What caused the fire? Common sense says it was the lithium ion battery being used. These are the batteries that "e-cigs" use, and are capable of causing massive bodily injury and property damage.
The fire started in the victim's bedroom, and common sense says bedrooms typically have numerous combustabiles present to escalate any fire (sheets, pillows, mattresses, drapery, carpet). Since the mod explosion sent projectiles into the victims head causing his death, common sense says he was not able to address the fire that raged out of control.
This particular incident appears to have been a perfect storm of a tragedy. The user was using a mechanical mod which had no vent holes to allow gas from a venting/exploding battery to escape the enclosed metal tube, so it was in effect a perfect pipe bomb.
The television reporters interviewed a vape shop, who explained that the device used was a mechanical mod which has no protective electronics and exploded because of a battery failure.
Reporters said that the story will be ongoing as more information is uncovered. What more did the report need to say to satisfy you? I think you are being overly harsh in your criticism.
Amen, brother. It seems like every time something bad happens, it's like an alarm for the ecf police force to grab the soapboxes and start the finger pointing . Good Lord, just because I vape doesn't mean the world needs to understand everything about vaping.
I think that was the point.
When my smoking friend's cigarette lit some gasoline and burned him it wasn't the cigarette that burned him.
Saying the battery explosion started the fire that burned 80% would be accurate. Saying the ecig burned 80% is sensationalizing.
When I look around at the various devices I own that use external li-on batteries they
all have one thing in common other than my vape .
They all have the cells encased in the manufacturer's own tamper proof case with a key-way fit to ensure only their batteries fit the appliance.
Power tools , camera etc.
From a safety aspect this might be where the vape industry should be headed.
You will never be able to stop unscrupulous vendors selling unsuitable batteries .
Let's face it we all want to be able to enjoy vaping safely , and now it is such a huge market the industry must do all it can to ensure customer safety.
I've never owned a mechanical mod, nor do I intend to. I don't see the appeal.
Whilst I would not wish to see any control on those that choose such equipment there does seem to be a culture of mech mods being some kind of holy grail of vaping .
It would be a real shame if the current laissez faire approach leads to the end of all but pod mods and AIO devices .
all have one thing in common other than my vape .
They all have the cells encased in the manufacturer's own tamper proof case with a key-way fit to ensure only their batteries fit the appliance.
Power tools , camera etc.
From a safety aspect this might be where the vape industry should be headed.
You will never be able to stop unscrupulous vendors selling unsuitable batteries .
Let's face it we all want to be able to enjoy vaping safely , and now it is such a huge market the industry must do all it can to ensure customer safety.
I've never owned a mechanical mod, nor do I intend to. I don't see the appeal.
Whilst I would not wish to see any control on those that choose such equipment there does seem to be a culture of mech mods being some kind of holy grail of vaping .
It would be a real shame if the current laissez faire approach leads to the end of all but pod mods and AIO devices .
The victim was using a dangerous battery device which ultimately caused both an explosion and fire which led to his death. Point being, if the victim had not been vaping with that "ecig" that night, there would have been no explosion or fire.
The victim died from shrapnel entering his brain. The battery incidentally started the fire when it exploded. Since the victim was dead, the unattended fire consumed the bedroom and his body. What's so hard to understand?
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I read the headline on BBC today. Dont have too much info on it. What device was it?
And nobody has denied that. What they deny is the sensationalism.
Cigarettes have started many forest fires burning many homes and killing many people. I have yet to hear a news story claim that a cigarette burned 20 homes killing 5. Because people know what cigarettes are so they would find such a headline laughable.
People do not know what ecigs are so it's claimed that a "vape pen" "burned 80% of his body" to make it sound like an eGo battery did all that alone to create fear to push for bans.
You can buy it and perpetuate it. I'm not.
It was a Smok-E Mountain Vanilla mechanical mod from the Phillapines. This model has no vent holes. The fire button can be disabled, but of course it must be set to be effective. I don't believe it has been determined what atomizer or batteries were being used.
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Now you got me confused.
The review explains the venting as being down the tube , two vent holes at base where gases can escape from around fire button.
Tl;dr.
"It was a vape pen that exploded burning 80% of his body" is a factually incorrect statement. An exploding battery doesn't turn into a flamethrower. It's razzle dazzle.
"It was a vape pen that exploded burning 80% of his body" is a factually incorrect statement. An exploding battery doesn't turn into a flamethrower. It's razzle dazzle.
batteries aren't napalm=everything about vaping LOL
Key words "around the fire button". From what I can see there's minimal room, if any, "around the fire button" for gas to escape during a catastrophic venting incident. This would not be described as "adequate ventilation". Batteries can swell up in size when they vent or go into thermal runaway and block the passageway to the bottom of the tube.
Compare to the below:
Ideally, vent holes should be located near where the top of the battery would be, because batteries are designed to vent at the positive pole.
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You might want to spend a little time reading.
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