Fox & Friends Interview

[Mr. P]

What will end up happening is that BT will have their product on the market and the FDA will run samples of their so called V-juice. The results will probably show that their juice contains about 100 different ingredients and they will want to regulate it. For the DIYer there is not 100 ingredients in our juice so as I stated before the little guy will get squeezed out.

 

[supermarket]

1. In your original post you used the term "founding fathers" that emcompasses more than just Jefferson. Washington, Hamilton, Adams, etc are part of that group. You clearly don't understand what type of government many of them supported.

2. I clearly stated Jefferson's "actions", not his words, were supportive of big government. Prior to the 1860's, Jefferson perpetrated the largest secret expenditure of government funds without the approval of the Congress or the people. His use of political lies and mud-slingling was legendary. I'm still glad he was a member of the Founding Fathers, but he was not what you portend him to be. Plus you used Wiki to make your point which diminishes your point.

3. You totally ignored my valid point that your "rant" on political parties and government is full of holes, because you only point to Conservatives as being quick to critcize. Your bias is showing.

4. If you are going to be critical of the political system, then try to be balanced in your criticism and put your bias to the side.

I obviously hit a sore spot with you, because you just go on and on, don't you

I have no bias, but your obvious sore spot over me mentioning conservatives shows YOUR bias....along with every post you've made in this thread.

If I have ANY leanings toward ANY political party/movement, I would mention it, loudly and proudly. The fact of the matter is, if you actually bothered to read my posts, is that I don't buy into the left/right paradigm you so eagerly buy into.

Just being I criticized you for your obvious conservative mindset, with is quite blatant at this point, doesn't mean I wouldn't have done the same if you were "liberal". I quite honestly did. It just so happens that YOU aren't liberal, are you?


[Edit: For the sake of avoiding (my SECOND attempt at trying to avoid a pointless convo at this point) argument, I will just "admit" what win obviously wants me to say. I'm a dirty liberal-hippy-feminist-communist-terrorist who has "holes" in all my arguments, because I'm not a conservative-buy into the BS system-war monger with my heart out-die hard, right wing republican ]

Sorry, I had to

 

[ScottP]

All I can say at this point is:

 

[Altaire Versailles]

All I can say at this point is:

lol the door hardly even started closing lmao i miss tng

 

[wv2win]

I think the RJ ecig will attract as many users as the Blu from Lorrillard. Expect all cigarette makers to acquire their own technology. It looks like RJ knows that Lorrillard bought theirs. RJ "invented" theirs or you'd think that hearing about their ability to bring things from concept to market efficiently.

At any rate, the emergence of commercial tobacco companies may just "legitimize" ecigs with the American public or they could just create a negative association with tobacco cigs and destroy the differential effect that electronic cigarettes have enjoyed.

Those of us who know the difference will probably leave it alone or buy one just to see if it measures up. I don't expect seasoned vapers to switch, though. There's too many obvious negatives, starting with the price of juice.

I would like to know how they calculate that one carto equals a pack of cigs. If that doesn't pan out, then it won't be half price vaping ($3 cartos instead of $6 a pack).

Unless it is a "regulated" battery, there will be battery drain problems and inconsistent performance. If it is regulated, that tiny battery will crap out even faster than most tiny batteries do, adding to the frustration level. Changing batteries every 45 - 90 minutes gets old real fast.

 

[ScottP]

Unless it is a "regulated" battery, there will be battery drain problems and inconsistent performance. If it is regulated, that tiny battery will crap out even faster than most tiny batteries do, adding to the frustration level. Changing batteries every 45 - 90 minutes gets old real fast.

I started out on an auto-cig-a-like from GreenSmartLiving. The battery was the same diameter as an analog and only 2 5/8" long. It actually lasted me a whole day per charge for the first 2 or three months. After that a full charge started decreasing pretty quickly. Although I am pretty sure what I had was an unregulated battery, the larger Vuse battery might make up for the power regulation.

 

[wv2win]

I started out on an auto-cig-a-like from GreenSmartLiving. The battery was the same diameter as an analog and only 2 5/8" long. It actually lasted me a whole day per charge for the first 2 or three months. After that a full charge started decreasing pretty quickly. Although I am pretty sure what I had was an unregulated battery, the larger Vuse battery might make up for the power regulation.

Then you are the BIG exception to the rule when it comes to these size batteries. Many of us started with 90 - 180 mAh battery models. The rule of thumb is: 100 mAh = one hour of moderate vaping.

I and many of us use our PV's about every 5 - 10 minutes. You will not, I stress, NOT, get close to a day on a cig-a-like battery vaping as many of us do. Now if you take a few puffs on it every hour or so, I can see it lasting 5, 6 or maybe 7 hours. Most of us don't vape like that.

 

[ScottP]

Then you are the BIG exception to the rule when it comes to these size batteries. Many of us started with 90 - 180 mAh battery models. The rule of thumb is: 100 mAh = one hour of moderate vaping.

I and many of us use our PV's about every 5 - 10 minutes. You will not, I stress, NOT, get close to a day on a cig-a-like battery vaping as many of us do. Now if you take a few puffs on it every hour or so, I can see it lasting 5, 6 or maybe 7 hours. Most of us don't vape like that.

One thing that bears mentioning is that the pre-filled cartos that this thing used were in the 3.3 ohm range. Higher resistance means less current at a specific voltage. Which in turn means longer battery life. I would imagine the people designing the Vuse understand the mathematics behind determining how to balance the voltage and resistance to maximize the mean time between charges for a specific battery.

 

[kiwivap]

So I have been thinking about this "200 puff counter" and I see a problem with it already. Not everyone vapes the same. Some take really long slow puffs. Other take short quick puffs. Will you really get 200 puffs if you take long slow puffs or will you empty the carto first? What happens if you get one and only take very small short puffs on it? Do you still only get 200 puffs leaving the carto half full?

I expect it will have a cutoff after so many seconds, as cigalikes do. Anything within that period sustained would be one puff. That's my guess.

 

[Grimwald]

We all know about the politics of Fox and MSNBC. Some will be on one side...some on the other. I for one, prefer to come here and not be subjected to the political spin from either side. Frankly it diminishes the forum if we all get into a political tit for tat. JMHO

 

[Hotwire]

s an aside from the topic, I think we all should vape respectfully and openly in public.

I deliberately have on or two vapes on every subway or bus in the hopes a smoker who wants to quit will get curious and do some research.

 

[KerryK]

I do that too, go vape with smokers, hand out some cards.

 

[KerryK]

As far as the whole Fox issue I personally think there is a difference with them. I don't believe in lumping both sides together and throwing hands in the air in disgust.

If you want it to work you have to work it....it's what we have at the moment, you want to make it better, go out and do some of this:

 

[DaveP]

I get all day vaping on an AW 18650 IMR. I got an hour and a half from a 180mah Joye 510. The 1000mah Ego batt took me from morning into the late afternoon. 200 puffs with say, a 5 second timeout? 1000 seconds/60 seconds = 16.6 minutes of total vaping time. Where did I go wrong? Space that out to one vape every hour to equal a cig break and it lasts longer.

 

[AttyPops]

Haven't you guys used a disposable? I've been out and run out of battery a couple of times in the last 3 years (forgot to swap batteries before I left house. Happens.) So I go to a gas station or tobacco shop and buy a disposable. Anyway... They last about 3/4 to 1 day. They are a bit bigger than a cig-sized super-mini...like the vuse is a bit bigger. So who knows?

Remember the "about 200 puffs" was just a quote from some article/news video. The actual puffs, and the battery life...remain to be seen.

 

[ScottP]

Haven't you guys used a disposable? I've been out and run out of battery a couple of times in the last 3 years (forgot to swap batteries before I left house. Happens.) So I go to a gas station or tobacco shop and buy a disposable. Anyway... They last about 3/4 to 1 day.

Nope. I thought ahead. I use an eGo 650mAh pass through and keep a separate charge plug and adapters in the car. If I get in the car and the battery gets low, I plug it in and keep on vaping while it recharges.

 

[AttyPops]

Nope. I thought ahead. I use an eGo 650mAh pass through and keep a separate charge plug and adapters in the car. If I get in the car and the battery gets low, I plug it in and keep on vaping while it recharges.

One of the times.... I was in the GF's car. lol.

Guess I live dangerously. I used to carry "vaping kit" with me. I don't anymore. I just bring my box mod with fresh batteries and a full tank. No extra coil, etc. I do keep a spare set of batteries in MY car. Should keep a spare head too. I used to keep a spare eGo battery and atty there also. Now I keep some nic lozenges instead.

 

[wv2win]

One thing that bears mentioning is that the pre-filled cartos that this thing used were in the 3.3 ohm range. Higher resistance means less current at a specific voltage. Which in turn means longer battery life. I would imagine the people designing the Vuse understand the mathematics behind determining how to balance the voltage and resistance to maximize the mean time between charges for a specific battery.

A 3.3 ohm head on a battery that small would produce a very cold vape. With all the posts from newer vapers who switched to variable vaping and how amazed they are with the warmth, vapor production and throat hit after they switched, I would venture that this model won't be much different than a Blu.

 

[BostLabs]

I do that too, go vape with smokers, hand out some cards.

I came across a smoker yesterday when we were about to go into a Paradise Bakery. He was sitting on the curb smoking. I pulled a card out from a local vape shop and said 'Here you go buddy. In case you ever want to quit those nasty things.' He said 'What is it?' "Electronic Cigarettes, they really work." and I took a vape off of my Twist. He said 'Thanks!' and I left it at that.

Now he may not go running off to the shop, but it may put the idea in his head.

 

[supermarket]

We all know about the politics of Fox and MSNBC. Some will be on one side...some on the other. I for one, prefer to come here and not be subjected to the political spin from either side. Frankly it diminishes the forum if we all get into a political tit for tat. JMHO

That's a typical liberal would say. PSHHH.


(just kidding lol)