Probably true, in 'dry' counties. When availability becomes a problem, the price goes up.
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Probably true, in 'dry' counties. When availability becomes a problem, the price goes up.
They sell liquor here in Ohio at grocery stores, gas stations and even drive through beverage stores...
I briefly went to a school in a dry county. There was a beverage store just across the county line...
Don`t discount the difference between Shine and whatever JD is making, night and day partner, night and day.
If its the show I`m thinking about, it can be pretty funny at times, mostly due to the cast. It damn near a Sit Com, ha, ha.
But, I find no comfort in the fact that the shows been on for a few years now, and now I can buy 100 proof Shine at the local liqueur store. Its Absolute insanity from a government that thinks Nic should be regulated out of existence. Their logic does not compute.
Vaping started as a DIY thing, our very term for the devices we use tells you that much.
Vaping may not remain mainstream if taxes do a number on the business end of it, but vaping isn't going to die off.
It has at the very least another 45 years, if I die at 90ish. I'm sure others will keep it alive too.
What we use or modify to use is neither here nor there, if we want to vape, we will find a way.
Maurice
Vaping may not remain mainstream if taxes do a number on the business end of it, but vaping isn't going to die off.
It has at the very least another 45 years, if I die at 90ish. I'm sure others will keep it alive too.
What we use or modify to use is neither here nor there, if we want to vape, we will find a way.
Maurice
Very true. All of the advanced gear many of us use today are simply refinements of stuff that started out as home workshop projects, made by innovators who were dissatisfied with 'over the counter' gear. I don't expect that will stop. The ones who will be affected most will be the first time, or entry level vaper.
Actually "bribe", "hush money" "profit sharing" are much more accurate than "taxation".
As far as DIY goes,
I doubt they will be able to tax food based flavoring extracts.
We use the exact same type of flavorings used in most foods.
PG and VG have too many other uses to be under fire.
The only thing they will be able to tax that concerns DIYers is nicotine extract.
Sad to say but When (not if) the FDA takes the axe to vaping the ultimate pay back is Total Abstinence from All Tobacco. It shouldn't take long for the foundations to begin shaking all around, fed, state, and local govments. The Ultimate Protest!
The ultimate protest would be to vote these people out of office, so they can't sell out our health for a few dirty dollars.
Odd... I already load my own ammo. Been looking at DIY juice, but I'm kinda lazy
I have been hearing about FDA deeming since I got on here a year ago. Still nothing solid has happened
Anybody who thinks BT is worried about vaping doesn't pay attention to people: there are still plenty of people smoking. If there's a big enough shift to vaping (which is doubtful), BT will move more into vaping
I have been hearing about FDA deeming since I got on here a year ago. Still nothing solid has happened
Anybody who thinks BT is worried about vaping doesn't pay attention to people: there are still plenty of people smoking. If there's a big enough shift to vaping (which is doubtful), BT will move more into vaping
I'm sorry....did any of us care when people started smoking? Did we say "you're going to ruin smoking for all of us!"?
As long as they're of legal age, who cares if they start vaping. It's pretty enjoyable....with or without nic.
As long as they're of legal age, who cares if they start vaping. It's pretty enjoyable....with or without nic.
My kids are long out of school and grandkids haven't hit HS yet so I'm a bit out of touch but at work I hear the younger guys talking about there HS kids. Its strange how its a topic. Its not really a secert but many kids smoke in school. I know most here started at 18 (now 19) and that great but I was a pre-teen when I started.
I have to believe for these people teen smoking is, while frowned on, "normal" and these kids should smoke for 30 years then start vaping to quit.
I'm disturbed by how many members of this forum seem to think these kids should suffer the same consequences we did in order to be "eligible" to vape. Were these people always so judgemental? Maybe cigarettes made people cool after all. I mean, between the clone/ authentic , subohmers/ tootie puffers, addiction/ non addiction, Walmart/ no Walmart threads....seems like a bunch of vapers that should be happy, joyous and free...not to mention GRATEFUL, are just looking for something to complain about. Thank God for them, though....this forum would be pretty boring if they all disappeared.
I lucked out cause I don't care what other people do at all. It makes me borderline apathetic but I would rather carry that burden than worry about every other persons hobby and habits on the interwebs/street.
I'm a little apathetic, too. I do enjoy a good vape just like I enjoy a lot of things. I am at 3mg from an original 24. I am staying at 3mg as long as I can, but reducing the triggers. Being at the computer is a tough one. The car, 1st thing in the morning, and bedtime are challenges.
I think consciousness is a pretty strong trigger.
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