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ahahaha, copy and copy again and copy the copy and the copier that copied the copy copied by another copier. Its a real mess Poppa. lol

Copiers desided to copy GGTS and Ody and Iatty etc. In a while I will give them more job because they will have to copy Ithaka Proteus, VIR etc :lol:
Nice job Imeo, the post about a copy was copied, lol to funny.
 
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You are right on this rebuilder. But some things that GG series made in first place became so common that noone remembers that GG made them first. The GG front locking button exists on almost all front button devices right now.
First, these mods don't offer half the features/value of a GGTS and are at a greater cost to boot BUT... then we have people defending GG in this thread who chose to buy a Caravela which has a bottom mounted button and interchangeable tubes, features which are in the same way copied from previously released mods which smacks of plain hypocrisy. At least show some consistency in your ethics guys.
 

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What are you talking about rebuilder????

I have 12 GG mods and every atty Imeo made at least in dublicate and I love all of them. I also have a 2 ZEN's, DID, and on order 3 Caravelas and intend to buy more stuff if I like it.

Does that make me a hypocrit?

Imeo is a good friend and as long as he makes GG's I'll buy them and support him because he's above all a great guy who makes awesome atties and mods. GG owners who appreciate and love GG's would never buy a GG copy but that doesn't mean we won't buy other quality mods. Every single very senior member here I know has a multitude of different mods.
I think you were a bit hasty in rendering people hypocrits friend.


... then we have people defending GG in this thread who chose to buy a Caravela which has a bottom mounted button and interchangeable tubes, features which are in the same way copied from previously released mods which smacks of plain hypocrisy. At least show some consistency in your ethics guys.
 

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Well then you obviously don't have either a Caravela or a strong understanding of the mechanical layout of the numerous bottom mounted button mods on the market currently, because the Caravela is actually extremely different compared to anything else that's currently on the market out there (relatively speaking ofc, bc we are just talking about simple mechanical buttons on the bottom of SS tubes, there's not that much to it frankly).
First, these mods don't offer half the features/value of a GGTS and are at a greater cost to boot BUT... then we have people defending GG in this thread who chose to buy a Caravela which has a bottom mounted button and interchangeable tubes, features which are in the same way copied from previously released mods which smacks of plain hypocrisy. At least show some consistency in your ethics guys.
 

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What are you talking about rebuilder????

I have 12 GG mods and every atty Imeo made at least in dublicate and I love all of them. I also have a 2 ZEN's, DID, and on order 3 Caravelas and intend to buy more stuff if I like it.

Does that make me a hypocrit?

Pshhh, only 12 GG mods? I wouldn't listen to this amateur, no way does he know what he's talking about!
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First, these mods don't offer half the features/value of a GGTS and are at a greater cost to boot BUT... then we have people defending GG in this thread who chose to buy a Caravela which has a bottom mounted button and interchangeable tubes, features which are in the same way copied from previously released mods which smacks of plain hypocrisy. At least show some consistency in your ethics guys.


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What are you talking about rebuilder????

I have 12 GG mods and every atty Imeo made at least in dublicate and I love all of them. I also have a 2 ZEN's, DID, and on order 3 Caravelas and intend to buy more stuff if I like it.

Does that make me a hypocrit?

Imeo is a good friend and as long as he makes GG's I'll buy them and support him because he's above all a great guy who makes awesome atties and mods. GG owners who appreciate and love GG's would never buy a GG copy but that doesn't mean we won't buy other quality mods. Every single very senior member here I know has a multitude of different mods.
I think you were a bit hasty in rendering people hypocrits friend.


You only have three Caravelas, piker - I have 5 and on list for another next yr. Your a little light on the DID front too. I have 4, better hurry up Capt. Then again I only have 9 TS and three TB's. I must be a hypocrite too.



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Well then you obviously don't have either a Caravela or a strong understanding of the mechanical layout of the numerous bottom mounted button mods on the market currently, because the Caravela is actually extremely different compared to anything else that's currently on the market out there (relatively speaking ofc, bc we are just talking about simple mechanical buttons on the bottom of SS tubes, there's not that much to it frankly).

Slam dunk RW

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Dont forget the extremely tight tolerances too of that button.



Pshhh, only 12 GG mods? I wouldn't listen to this amateur, no way does he know what he's talking about!
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Right on RW - Capt is def, an amateur - ehehehhee


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Guys, I saw a caravela's review and I think it uses only GG features. It has a moving center post exactly like GGStealth's and a locking front button exactly like GGSlim's. So rebuilder is right on what he said but his language was not the proper one thats why you all get upset.
 

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I don't agree at all Imeo. The Caravela switch is different in several ways from the GGSlim: the threads that secure the locking ring are reverse threaded, and they actually screw directly into the main housing of the switch (male threads on locking ring, female on switch housing, which is opposite from the GGSlim button and all other GG buttons since), so they're recessed into the body of the switch housing and no threads are ever exposed. The Caravela switch also does not use a delrin insulator at the base of the battery. Instead, the walls of the button housing were left slightly thicker so that they would only touch the battery's wrapper, thus serving as a built in insulator. The switch also has a vent hole hidden inside of it so that the mod doesn't require any visible holes on its surface. As for the positive post, it does use a system that's similar to the Stealth, but it's definitely not identical. The biggest similarity is how it uses a threaded piece of black delrin to insulate the positive contact, but that's something that every mechanical mod must have, and Trogg even did that in the original SD at the very end of 2008. The contact itself is similarly threaded, but it lacks the hexagonal base that the Stealth's post has, and instead it basically uses a retrofitted flat-head screw. While the Stealth has a spring in the ground connection to ensure a snug fit with your batteries even if you raise or lower the positive post, the Caravela comes with 5 different sized positive posts to serve a similar function, but the Caravela posts can actually extend much deeper into the 510 connector than the Stealth posts do.

I'm really not trying to be disrespectful here Imeo!!!!! I am just passionate about both my GGs AND my Caravelas, which are, in my opinion, the two very best devices on the market currently, so I don't like to see either of them insulted or accused of things that are not true. Believe me, God forbid if Pedro ever accused you of stealing from him, I wouldn't spend 30 minutes writing out an explanation for everyone to try and add some clarity to the situation, I would probably just sell my Caravelas out of spite (NOTE: Pedro has NEVER EVER EVER made any such accusations, he is actually an admirer of you and your work, I was just using that as a hypothetical to contextualize where I'm coming from). The one thing that Pedro definitely copied from the GG is attention to detail, as both are truly perfectly machined and finished devices! Something else worth noting here is that Pedro does not own and has never owned any GGs, and he was actually inspired to make the Caravela because he was never able to get a GG!
Guys, I saw a caravela's review and I think it uses only GG features. It has a moving center post exactly like GGStealth's and a locking front button exactly like GGSlim's. So rebuilder is right on what he said but his language was not the proper one thats why you all get upset.
 

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You only have three Caravelas, piker - I have 5 and on list for another next yr. Your a little light on the DID front too. I have 4, better hurry up Capt. Then again I only have 9 TS and three TB's. I must be a hypocrite too.

Right on RW - Capt is def, an amateur - ehehehhee


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HAH! You're one to talk with only 4 DIDs! Not to mention that it's obvious you've never even used any of the stuff you own! At least not unless you walk around wearing elbow length silk gloves!
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Yes but knowing the work that goes into developing he should refuse to review knockoffs...it gives them validity in some people's eyes.

Scott is a well respected reviewer. Not reviewing knockoffs shows respect to the original modder.

You'll never see a review of a knock off on my YouTube channel! Nor will you ever see one listed in my signature!
 

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I agree with rick, Totally different mods route. I mean a tube is a tube, there are only so many ways to make something. Bottom buttons are bottom buttons, the execution of the button is what sets it apart.
Word up!

I see it this way, mods and atties that are obviously a clone we have to agree its pathetic, I mean I don't think you should be worried imeo. Not one bit.
That's made me lmao Rick d has all these goodies in a glass case with high powered "lasers" around em lol
Yeah, Imeo definitely doesn't have anything to worry about! Hell, at the rate he's been cranking out innovative prototypes, the Chinese just aren't going be able to keep up! Hell, it's been 3 weeks shy of a year since the first run of Odys and the first true clone only came out a few weeks ago tops! To top it off, Urq managed to copy (wrong wording, i don't meant that negatively at all) the Odysseus a full 6 months before the Chinese could! Plus he did it all with nothing more than an anvil, hammer, and wood-burning kiln!
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Many moders were inspired by Imeo and the GG's throughout the years and many blatantly copied Imeo. I think there's a huge difference here because the one's that were inspired by Imeo have only great things to say about him. The others don't even know him and are just out for a quick buck. No one can stop these guys from making blatant copies and please don't believe for a moment that it's because GG's are produced in relatively small numbers. All great products will be copied, we can't change that but we can choose not to buy them.

I may have other mods like most people but I only collect GG's and use them daily because I fell in love with them first time I saw them. Then I found this sub forum with other great people who share my love and admiration of the GG's. All the people here who post regularly share the same passion for GG's and admiration for Imeo because he's simply a great guy.

Rebuilder we really don't need to prove anything, the time we've invested here on this forum proves how deep and genuine our dedication and love for the GG's and Imeo himself really is.

On a lighter note

Rick (rwechsler) and Dave (dspin) you guys crack me up with those GIF's. Dave you don't really have those gloves do you buddy? :laugh:
 

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Imeo should just get used to being the Steve Jobs of tube mods at this point. Innovate and let the cloners play catch up.



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