GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Heron

[Hrathor]

Gotcha. I'll try that with the filler fluff.

I don't much care for silica though, so I'm going to keep trying my luck with cotton for the time being. Maybe the Heron will change my mind on silica though.

I am almost using cotton 100%...it just looked easier to use the silica when I was building it at work. I just ordered some of that biowick to try and I need to find some of that SnC stuff to try I think. I really wish I had a 2nd Heron, so I could work on one while vaping the other. I might try my luck with a dual coil cotton build later today though...just hate to mess with what's working....

 

[Hrathor]

Try the cotton yarn...better still...

Do you have a good source to buy from? I didn't do much research on it but some of the stuff I was looking at didn't seem to healthy looking.

 

[Akdare]

I am almost using cotton 100%...it just looked easier to use the silica when I was building it at work. I just ordered some of that biowick to try and I need to find some of that SnC stuff to try I think. I really wish I had a 2nd Heron, so I could work on one while vaping the other. I might try my luck with a dual coil cotton build later today though...just hate to mess with what's working....

Hrathor, I've got a ton of that SnC...PM me your addy, and I'll send you some to try...

 

[Hrathor]

Hrathor, I've got a ton of that SnC...PM me your addy, and I'll send you some to try...

Done, and thanks for the offer!

 

[rodsky77]

I am so glad I'm not the only one...

The only reason I knew how to put it on the right way was because either Q or Idaho, or even the Russian review that Perseas posted noted the fact that the tank goes on only one way and you have to get it right because the grooves on the tank are of different width - one end is for the deck and the other for the bell.

 

[Hrathor]

The only reason I knew how to put it on the right way was because either Q or Idaho, or even the Russian review that Perseas posted noted the fact that the tank goes on only one way and you have to get it right because the grooves on the tank are of different width - one end is for the deck and the other for the bell.

Same for me. It's a good thing there was reading material available BEFORE the mail came though...

 

[chadsmo]

I also mentioned it in my build post … just sayin lol

 

[floridaBMW]

I just read about half of this thread. I am sooo jonesing for a Heron. Btw I didn't see it but will it hybrid onto a Lux?




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[StrikeIII]

I just read about half of this thread. I am sooo jonesing for a Heron. Btw I didn't see it but will it hybrid onto a Lux?

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It sure will. It will be able to hybrid into any mod that has 20x1 threading or also called 201 threading.

 

[floridaBMW]

Thanks brother, I love my Lux. Even though I was unsure there is a pic with a patina'd Lux and Heron on their site that had me weak in the knees.


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[Waho]

I had to go back and re-read to see if it was mentioned afterward. My retention was just awful due to the excitement I guess

 

[rodsky77]

I also mentioned it in my build post … just sayin lol

Sorry I missed you there Chad

 

[qorax]

HERON *Serial Numbers* List
Congratulations to all new owners of the amazing HERON

Folks, kindly 'register' your HERON Serial Numbers here:
Submission Form: > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13TTHGKIMqkZa1CHv1uxxrtppTjduM8a5Uid3D4NDmmI/viewform

Thanks & regards,
______________________________________________________________________
Upon submission you can view the list here: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiEZHbNfxBj8dFRSUGRvT2pEYzQyWWZhdjZLQzV5ZUE#gid=0

 

[Masonite]

HERON *Serial Numbers* List
Congratulations to all new owners of the amazing HERON

Folks, kindly 'register' your HERON Serial Numbers here:
Submission Form: > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13TTHGKIMqkZa1CHv1uxxrtppTjduM8a5Uid3D4NDmmI/viewform

Thanks & regards,
______________________________________________________________________
Upon submission you can view the list here: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiEZHbNfxBj8dFRSUGRvT2pEYzQyWWZhdjZLQzV5ZUE#gid=0

Done. Thanks!

 

[Pathology]

Done! Thanks for doing these lists, Q!

Also, *crosses fingers* I MAY have gotten my Heron running smoothly

So far so good. I'll post back tomorrow!

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[floridaBMW]

Domo has Herons in stock, just grabbed one.


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[Pathology]

3 hours down and its still vaping strong. I'm almost 100% sure my problem was the amount of fluff I was using. I've got that sorted now, and its working perfectly.

The only issue I've had with this build is my cotton wasn't thick enough coming out of the cap, so it falls down in the hole a little bit and stops wicking. Its done it twice in 3 hours, and when I notice a flavor change...I just pull it out a little and I'm good to go again. After this tank I'll rewick with slightly more cotton, and all my issues should be solved.

Suuuuch a great vape. I love my Taifun GT, but it doesn't hold a candle to the flavor of the Heron. Neither does my wife's KFL+.

Perseas and co., you truly are masterminds of vaping.

..Sent from the vape lair..

 

[Masonite]

3 hours down and its still vaping strong. I'm almost 100% sure my problem was the amount of fluff I was using. I've got that sorted now, and its working perfectly.

The only issue I've had with this build is my cotton wasn't thick enough coming out of the cap, so it falls down in the hole a little bit and stops wicking. Its done it twice in 3 hours, and when I notice a flavor change...I just pull it out a little and I'm good to go again. After this tank I'll rewick with slightly more cotton, and all my issues should be solved.

Suuuuch a great vape. I love my Taifun GT, but it doesn't hold a candle to the flavor of the Heron. Neither does my wife's KFL+.

Perseas and co., you truly are masterminds of vaping.

..Sent from the vape lair..

The same happened to me. At first my cotton was too thin and would sheer off against the fluff when i would position the insignia on the tube where i like it...or it would get pushed back down the hole. I made the the cotton thicker and also long enough to rest around a quarter distance on the deck cap. When i put the top back on i'd make sure that when I position the insignia that i would rotate it in the same direction the cotton was laid...so far so good

 

[perseas]

GP HERON UPDATE

Mine arrived yesterday and I've been experimenting with it for a while now and sufficiently vaping way too much as a result ;O)

I'm extremely happy with it overall - just need to suss out exactly how much filler material is required etc... and I haven't tried a cotton micro coil build just yet.

HOWEVER - there is one thing that is Really irritating me about it so far.. and that is that it gurgles and I absolutely hate gurgling atomisers - they really get on my nerves.. but not just hat - after a few vapes on it the condensate builds up to such a point that when you take subsequent vapes from it the mere act of sucking up the vapour causes juice to be spat into your mouth and there's a horrible gurgling - which necessitates you removing the cap and cleaning out the inner bore of the mouthpiece tube.

This cannot always be resolved with just giving it a puff down the tube to clear it out either - I know I have tried that - sometimes you can give it a good blast down there and it won't clear out the condensate..

It does get really bad - if you take the filler section off and suck gently through it it'll behave just like an old penny whistle!!!

I really like this atomiser but it's a pain in the .... to have to partially disassemble it every twenty minutes to clean out the bore in order to enjoy your vape.

I've had a good look at the atty and I've identified what I think is the problem..

I have to ask Perseas - is there any specific requirement for this part of the mouthpiece pipe? - Inside the main bore of the pipe there is a smaller bore section approximately 1mm smaller than the main bore.. is there a special reason for this section - or is this maybe an incomplete machining process?

I ask because it is this section causing all the problems..

You see after a while condensate builds up in the mouth piece - I have never had an atomiser where this does not occur - In fact I think it's impossible to vape and not generate condensate in some form or another.. I have a few spheroids and condensate occurs in the drip tip well of tem also - but this gurgling never occurs and the obvious answer is that the spheroid bore is a 3mm bore approximately all the way down and basically condensate gets to run down the sides of the bore --- BUT crucially the bore itself is wide enough for the meniscus / surface tension properties of the juice to not take hold..

The smaller 2mm inner bore is small enough that the juices cohesion properties makes it just stick there causing a partial fluid lock - which then you have to suck later vapes through that juice barrier and you get bubbling and gurgling as a result.. and it gets to the point when you can have quite a lot of juice condensate pooling above that section to overcome

I'm going to try boring mine out with a suitable drill bit to see if that gets rids of the problem - I'll report back if it does..

OK - I took mine out to 2.95 mm - which is slightly smaller than the 3mm bore - for me this has TOTALLY solved the problem!

No more gurgling..

No more juice in the mouth and the only side effect is that the draw becomes marginally less tight - but thanks to the excellent design on the adjustable airflow that is not a problem at all.....

Now this has become my favourite atomiser by far...

A slight word of warning though - anyone having similar issues - do not attempt what I just did unless you know you are competent enough to do it..

I've got many years of mechanical engineering experience and a certain level of ....-suredness that comes with it - to let me do this with a battery operated drill - a good drill bit and just holding them in my hands!

If you have or know someone with a lather who's competent enough to not mark the atomiser then that would be the best option..

DarthPistachio


Thank you very much for this detailed analysis!

You're right, although the reasons for gurgling are many times the way the filler is putted causing over-wicking and/or a weak battery that creates partial vaporisation and condensation is gathering inside the bell. We designed this section for compressing the vapour further, but the gurgling shows that we weren't right. We shall produce an updated bell the next weeks and we'll send it as a replacement to the owners of the Heron. I strongly suggest to the Heron owners to send us NO email about it, when we shall send it, if we can put it inside an order, etc.
The sooner we make it, the soonest we'll send it to the initial owners at no cost on behalf of them.

Perseas

 

[TimboZero]

For those that missed it a fortnight ago , a review on my site for this superb atomiser
The VapourArt GP Heron

I also have a review of the new GP Paps V3 on the site

VapourArt has epic customer support as you can tell by this GP Heron Update

The Heron is one of the greats