GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Spheroid, GP PAPS, X, GP Piccolo, GP SnP and more - Part 2

[StrikeIII]

Well, well, well.....it's midnite here and have been at the hospital as my wife's son, my stepson is about to have their first child and we are about to be grandparents sometime during the night!! As we pull into our driveway, I happen to glance at the front door and notice a brown envelope laying in front the door (we actually enter the house through the garage) and guess what it is?!?
I have opened the package and laid the little bags to the side...my v3, my heron, my 650 tube, my spheroid v3 upgrades so I took this premature picture before I begin to play with this beautiful and my first GP mod!! What should I do first? A quick rinse in warm soapy water...all parts including the switch and caps,etc and let dry thoroughly? Or do I set up the heron and start vaping like a million bucks!! Please advise as I don't want to miss any steps or be too hasty!! I am so impressed and delighted to own such a fine work of art! I am sure I will have any questions as I begin to get it all setup in the morning but looking any pre use advise!!

Also, I really need a couple more of GP driptips, anyone know when they may be available?
Thanks to all for your kindness and useful help and information! Kudos to P and the GP team!


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Congrats on your grandchild and your first GP experience!

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[Zbeast08]

Thanks Strike! Any comments welcomed to a couple of my questions above! Hope everyone has a great day! Btw, anyone know the exact size of the orings for the GP driptips? I have 2 and the orings have broke on both!! I am also looking a couple more driptips of anyone has any extra or if Perseas will have any in stock soon?! Have a great day all!


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[Cucco]

Hi there...

Here's my first post (after "New members forum) on ECF with three special players.

From left to right: Nikos Galis (playmaker), Panagiotis Giannakis (shooting guard) and Panagiotis Fasoulas (center).

Now I can sit in my rockin' chair peacefully listening Cowboy Junkies and let Perseas to figure out some dripper for me.

PS Perseas, thanks for GP drip tip o'rings.

Welcome! Nice to meet you!

 

[StrikeIII]

Thanks Strike! Any comments welcomed to a couple of my questions above! Hope everyone has a great day! Btw, anyone know the exact size of the orings for the GP driptips? I have 2 and the orings have broke on both!! I am also looking a couple more driptips of anyone has any extra or if Perseas will have any in stock soon?! Have a great day all!


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Take apart the heron and V3 and Throw everything in a warm soapy bath for sure. Perseas should be stocking the DT really soon maybe some this week, I want a couple myself. You can also check out the heron thread for some tips on how to build it. I'll link them below.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=521084

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=530491

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407053

Hope these help and feel to let us know if you run into any issues.

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[perseas]

GP HERON UPDATE

Mine arrived yesterday and I've been experimenting with it for a while now and sufficiently vaping way too much as a result ;O)

I'm extremely happy with it overall - just need to suss out exactly how much filler material is required etc... and I haven't tried a cotton micro coil build just yet.

HOWEVER - there is one thing that is Really irritating me about it so far.. and that is that it gurgles and I absolutely hate gurgling atomisers - they really get on my nerves.. but not just hat - after a few vapes on it the condensate builds up to such a point that when you take subsequent vapes from it the mere act of sucking up the vapour causes juice to be spat into your mouth and there's a horrible gurgling - which necessitates you removing the cap and cleaning out the inner bore of the mouthpiece tube.

This cannot always be resolved with just giving it a puff down the tube to clear it out either - I know I have tried that - sometimes you can give it a good blast down there and it won't clear out the condensate..

It does get really bad - if you take the filler section off and suck gently through it it'll behave just like an old penny whistle!!!

I really like this atomiser but it's a pain in the .... to have to partially disassemble it every twenty minutes to clean out the bore in order to enjoy your vape.

I've had a good look at the atty and I've identified what I think is the problem..

I have to ask Perseas - is there any specific requirement for this part of the mouthpiece pipe? - Inside the main bore of the pipe there is a smaller bore section approximately 1mm smaller than the main bore.. is there a special reason for this section - or is this maybe an incomplete machining process?

I ask because it is this section causing all the problems..

You see after a while condensate builds up in the mouth piece - I have never had an atomiser where this does not occur - In fact I think it's impossible to vape and not generate condensate in some form or another.. I have a few spheroids and condensate occurs in the drip tip well of tem also - but this gurgling never occurs and the obvious answer is that the spheroid bore is a 3mm bore approximately all the way down and basically condensate gets to run down the sides of the bore --- BUT crucially the bore itself is wide enough for the meniscus / surface tension properties of the juice to not take hold..

The smaller 2mm inner bore is small enough that the juices cohesion properties makes it just stick there causing a partial fluid lock - which then you have to suck later vapes through that juice barrier and you get bubbling and gurgling as a result.. and it gets to the point when you can have quite a lot of juice condensate pooling above that section to overcome

I'm going to try boring mine out with a suitable drill bit to see if that gets rids of the problem - I'll report back if it does..

OK - I took mine out to 2.95 mm - which is slightly smaller than the 3mm bore - for me this has TOTALLY solved the problem!

No more gurgling..

No more juice in the mouth and the only side effect is that the draw becomes marginally less tight - but thanks to the excellent design on the adjustable airflow that is not a problem at all.....

Now this has become my favourite atomiser by far...

A slight word of warning though - anyone having similar issues - do not attempt what I just did unless you know you are competent enough to do it..

I've got many years of mechanical engineering experience and a certain level of ....-suredness that comes with it - to let me do this with a battery operated drill - a good drill bit and just holding them in my hands!

If you have or know someone with a lather who's competent enough to not mark the atomiser then that would be the best option..

DarthPistachio


Thank you very much for this detailed analysis!

You're right, although the reasons for gurgling are many times the way the filler is putted causing over-wicking and/or a weak battery that creates partial vaporisation and condensation is gathering inside the bell. We designed this section for compressing the vapour further, but the gurgling shows that we weren't right. We shall produce an updated bell the next weeks and we'll send it as a replacement to the owners of the Heron. I strongly suggest to the Heron owners to send us NO email about it, when we shall send it, if we can put it inside an order, etc.
The sooner we make it, the soonest we'll send it to the initial owners at no cost on behalf of them.

Perseas

 

[Serket]

Gotta love Mr. P and how much he takes care of us. I rarely get the gurgling and usually blowing through the drip tip is enough to stop it.

Great customer service as usual thanks Perseas!

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[Zbeast08]

That is awesome P.....!! Well, I have given my babies a bath, I have Paps v3 #0119 and Heron #0063. I will be setting up this setup in a few minutes and report back, I will deal with the gurgle and/or condensation until I receive the upgraded bell! Woohoo!


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[crss]

Zbeast08, congrats on the grandchild. And you definitely will enjoy the v3 & Heron combo.

 

[Zbeast08]

Some days can be really rotten but we all deal with those days and some days are really great, today is a great day!! Thanks crss!


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[digitals]

Question: if you miss DHL, do they hand off to your local post office?

Just curious as our schedules have changed and we will likely miss a daytime delivery during the week.

 

[Zbeast08]

I may have been lucky but my package was laying at the front door when I got home late last night!!


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[digitals]

I may have been lucky but my package was laying at the front door when I got home late last night!!


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Thanks for the speedy response

 

[StrikeIII]

Wow now that's excellent service, Thanks Perseas.

Thanks Darth for taking a drill to your Heron, you have helped us all with your findings.

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[callmecletus]

Not sure if it had been mentioned, (this thread moves so fast!), Newport vapor room has some GVC in stock.

Sent from the backwoods of Maine.

 

[yankeebobo]

 

[perhol]

GP HERON UPDATE

This makes me really happy for 2 reasons.
1) I was right in what I said in post # 325 in the thread "GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Heron".

2) Perseas solve the problem his usual elegant and generous way.

Thank you to DarthPistachio and thank you to Perseas.

 

[Cucco]

Funny! I still haven't educated myself, regarding their use. I'm a mess these days!

 

[cliffy15]

I am also looking a couple more driptips of anyone has any extra or if Perseas will have any in stock soon?!

Perseas should be stocking the DT really soon maybe some this week, I want a couple myself.

Good news I've actually been looking for some GP drip tips for quite some time but my timing always seems to be rather unfortunate as when I decide I want them they're always sold out. going to have to snap some up as soon as they're available!

Thanks, P, for the really attentive action and response on the Heron! Awesomeness!

 

[chadsmo]

Funny! I still haven't educated myself, regarding their use. I'm a mess these days!

They help remove the insulators that the Gpin sits in from the top caps on mods , as well they are also used to remove the very bottom of a Spheroid.

 

[ArtificialSwedener]

That is awesome P.....!! Well, I have given my babies a bath, I have Paps v3 #0119 and Heron #0063. I will be setting up this setup in a few minutes and report back, I will deal with the gurgle and/or condensation until I receive the upgraded bell! Woohoo!


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Wait... The Heron has a serial number?