GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Spheroid, GP PAPS, X, GP Piccolo, GP SnP and more - Part 3

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The screws and the coil must not touch the interior of the topper. I had a case where the deck ring wasn't right. If the issue persists, make a flat resistance without coil and ensure that the screws are flush with the posts, and check again. If you have again short, send us an email with photos to fix it.

The AFC ring's position is stabilised from the 510 adapter by design. The same happens when the Heron is screwed into the Paps tubes. You have to unscrew the Heron by half a turn, from the 510 adapter or the tube in order to turn the AFC ring. We designed in that way, because most people have a constant draw preference, while a loose AFC ring would be quite annoying.

This happens mostly due to more or less fluff than is required. Too thin and it can't hold the juice, too condensed and floods after a while, so spread it evenly to have a uniform density with a needle or the fork. Try with a strip of fluff with 2-2,5" length and 0,6" height. Your cotton edges have to be short and the fluff be touching the inner walls of the tube without any gaps.

I could not agree more with this King P. As, the relationship between fluff amount in proportion to the wick size is also important.
I have found the Heron to wick incredibly. It is amazing as I have found a perfect relationship that allows me to vape hard without one dry hit.
Currently I am using just as P mentions and just moved one of the Heron's up to 2.5ish inches of fluff.
Never having much issue at all from gurgle, I think many are under the impression that it is just condensation. Some cases I have read the gurgling begins after a fill or build. This leads me to believe that it is from overfilling the Heron and pulling the juice into the chimney.
Look at your topper are there large juice puddles on the top? It is not condensation buildup after just a few draws. It is juice.

I also want to mention that I would much rather experience good wicking than poor wicking.

Variables
1) As many use a 1/16 inner diameter micro coil, obviously it limits our wick size.

2) Choice of wick, Most are using a form of cotton - many KGD or Cotton balls. The wick must slide through coil without resistance and I have found that sometimes my choice of wick of choice is too small to keep up with wicking(This is good! because I can alter wick).
Have you noticed the wicks small size fits through the topper with ample room for more wick? The chamber was designed for proportional wick's ability (x) flow of juice = X. *X=harmonious balance. This takes a bit of finding your perfect balance just like any other atomizer. I guarantee those with Kfuns, Sophias, drippers didnt nail your build for some time. Patience and practice as the Heron is an advanced vaping atomizer and a damn good one.

3) Fluff, as P mentions the amount of fluff is based on personal preference and as I mentioned it has to be in proportion to the wicks ability to wick at a constant and favorable measure.
Here are some photos of my coil and wicks(one or two have been posted prior but, information needs to be seen sometimes twice)
Here is a SnC wick. I spread out the tail to collect juice in well. No gurgle. This wick fits nicely through 1/16 coil and is sturdy to stand and with all cotton I am using the topper for extra lift. Wicks fantastic. 2 inches of fluff.
dbAkonP.jpg

Notice the lack of juice on the deck! Its wicking GREAT!
9cnree2.jpg


KGD/balls are a bit more tricky due to the natural state of the medium. We've all seen it get limp and pathetic. I have an answer for you.
First here is another current build, 1/16 with KGD. Please note the juice on topper and the topper gap for the wick. A bit more juice on cap than prior due to the Heron wicking as it should but the wick can not totally keep up. I still love this build. No gurgling and a beautiful vape.

Here comes the kicker.
*Please Note - This is not a Heron Issue!* This may be a quick fix for the KGD's wicking issue due to the forced small size of wick.

Anyway, I have used this method on other atomizers due to my love for micro coils and the restrictive sizes of cotton wick. I have tested this on the Heron and it also works like a dream if you need. It is simple and obvious.
Cut another strip of KGD and lay it on top of the existing coiled wick, juice it and replace topper and vape your brains out. It fills the gap nicely on the topper and provides more wicking at a quicker pace.
iXAng7n.jpg

ug29dhB.jpg


I would say my biggest point is to spend time with the Heron, I think you will find it as Great as I do, I hope this at least helps one person :).
 

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I could not agree more with this King P. As, the relationship between fluff amount in proportion to the wick size is also important.
I have found the Heron to wick incredibly. It is amazing as I have found a perfect relationship that allows me to vape hard without one dry hit.

I would say my biggest point is to spend time with the Heron, I think you will find it as Great as I do, I hope this at least helps one person :).

All good reading here Idaho. Many thanks...
One question. Though I'm OK with the micro-coil and the wick sliding through without "too much" resistance - what about the wick going through the topper hole? For sure I know if it's too tight it will not wick at all. Too loose and I assume the juice will just drip into/onto the deck and flood it.
So - what kind of "resistance" would you be looking for there? Right now I'd be using cotton balls. I'm waiting for a few bits of KGD to be delivered, but until then - cotton...


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All good reading here Idaho. Many thanks...
One question. Though I'm OK with the micro-coil and the wick sliding through without "too much" resistance - what about the wick going through the topper hole? For sure I know if it's too tight it will not wick at all. Too loose and I assume the juice will just drip into/onto the deck and flood it.
So - what kind of "resistance" would you be looking for there? Right now I'd be using cotton balls. I'm waiting for a few bits of KGD to be delivered, but until then - cotton...


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The best is absolutely no resistance and a slight gap is imminent and welcome.
BTW, I am happy to send you a short supply of KGD if you want. Let me know as I am happy to support my UKV buddies.
 

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The best is absolutely no resistance and a slight gap is imminent and welcome.
BTW, I am happy to send you a short supply of KGD if you want. Let me know as I am happy to support my UKV buddies.

A slight gap? OK then - I'll give that another shot tomorrow, assuming I can solve the "short"issue first...
KGD is just not available here. Rather - it is on Amazon - but the shipping is about 250% the cost of the item! Which is slightly daft!
PM on the way...



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I could not agree more with this King P. As, the relationship between fluff amount in proportion to the wick size is also important.
I have found the Heron to wick incredibly. It is amazing as I have found a perfect relationship that allows me to vape hard without one dry hit.
Currently I am using just as P mentions and just moved one of the Heron's up to 2.5ish inches of fluff.
Never having much issue at all from gurgle, I think many are under the impression that it is just condensation. Some cases I have read the gurgling begins after a fill or build. This leads me to believe that it is from overfilling the Heron and pulling the juice into the chimney.
Look at your topper are there large juice puddles on the top? It is not condensation buildup after just a few draws. It is juice.

I also want to mention that I would much rather experience good wicking than poor wicking.

Variables
1) As many use a 1/16 inner diameter micro coil, obviously it limits our wick size.

2) Choice of wick, Most are using a form of cotton - many KGD or Cotton balls. The wick must slide through coil without resistance and I have found that sometimes my choice of wick of choice is too small to keep up with wicking(This is good! because I can alter wick).
Have you noticed the wicks small size fits through the topper with ample room for more wick? The chamber was designed for proportional wick's ability (x) flow of juice = X. *X=harmonious balance. This takes a bit of finding your perfect balance just like any other atomizer. I guarantee those with Kfuns, Sophias, drippers didnt nail your build for some time. Patience and practice as the Heron is an advanced vaping atomizer and a damn good one.

3) Fluff, as P mentions the amount of fluff is based on personal preference and as I mentioned it has to be in proportion to the wicks ability to wick at a constant and favorable measure.
Here are some photos of my coil and wicks(one or two have been posted prior but, information needs to be seen sometimes twice)
Here is a SnC wick. I spread out the tail to collect juice in well. No gurgle. This wick fits nicely through 1/16 coil and is sturdy to stand and with all cotton I am using the topper for extra lift. Wicks fantastic. 2 inches of fluff.
dbAkonP.jpg

Notice the lack of juice on the deck! Its wicking GREAT!
9cnree2.jpg


KGD/balls are a bit more tricky due to the natural state of the medium. We've all seen it get limp and pathetic. I have an answer for you.
First here is another current build, 1/16 with KGD. Please note the juice on topper and the topper gap for the wick. A bit more juice on cap than prior due to the Heron wicking as it should but the wick can not totally keep up. I still love this build. No gurgling and a beautiful vape.

Here comes the kicker.
*Please Note - This is not a Heron Issue!* This may be a quick fix for the KGD's wicking issue due to the forced small size of wick.

Anyway, I have used this method on other atomizers due to my love for micro coils and the restrictive sizes of cotton wick. I have tested this on the Heron and it also works like a dream if you need. It is simple and obvious.
Cut another strip of KGD and lay it on top of the existing coiled wick, juice it and replace topper and vape your brains out. It fills the gap nicely on the topper and provides more wicking at a quicker pace.
iXAng7n.jpg

ug29dhB.jpg


I would say my biggest point is to spend time with the Heron, I think you will find it as Great as I do, I hope this at least helps one person :).

How come I dont see your coil in the 2nd to last pic?
 

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Very nice, Bill!

I am, however, trying to figure out what you got going on there with the top cap (or lack thereof?)...is this dripper in Hybrid mode I assume? It looks very slick!! :)
Thanks JP. Yes it is in hybrid mode. It does not come in 510 and only fits 20x1 threading..
 
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