Tonight I've been reading about Capric Triglyceride. Fair bit of fun controversy surrounding this synthetically extracted natural fatty acid. As I'm looking over its properties I have to wonder if anyone has tested it for suitability as a replacement for pg/vg allergic folk? I know its only partially soluble, but, it has characteristics that might make up for that.
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Just in case anyone finds it helpful... Just realized that in 13 pages this link wasn't dropped yet.
Learn About Electronic Cigarettes
The links in the Clinical Research and Lab Results sections are of particular interest.
Learn About Electronic Cigarettes
The links in the Clinical Research and Lab Results sections are of particular interest.
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Actually, it is more important, because it causes separation. So what you haven't allowed for it what concentration of ethanol results, and what quantity. That will be dependent on how much you start with, what separation does or doesn't take place, and how much escapes.
I shouldn't say the metabolism is rendered irrelevant, because it is the pathway involved. But it is irrelevant in terms of the start material if you boil - because then you are dealing with a different concentration. Decomposition isn't the issue physiologically - conversion and elimination are.
In very small amounts it wouldn't really be an issue.
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Even if the alcohol separates with a PV you have a pretty straight shot into your lungs with little chance for escape. Else you a PV that leaks every-time you set it down. If anything when boiled it should allow for more absorption.
Not sure about how much difference it makes, but I fire my PV about 2 seconds before I actually put the drip tip in my mouth and vape. Gives the coil plenty of time to get hot that way.
To each their own does leave a lot of room for splitting hares. Po' wascilly wabbits. So I provided my interpretation of a worst case scenario which still looks pretty positive. When all the hares are gone is still going to be relatively safe.
I think that in itself is what makes testing and figuring out just how safe vaping is difficult... I mean the fact the everyone vapes differently, uses different flavorings and bases, with and without nicotine, some preheat the coil, some don't...
Heck that's probably the biggest hindrance to proper testing... A positively perfect test to one vaper, could mean absolutely nothing to another. There are just so many variables to account for.
Just my thoughts...
Ah, I think you've missed the point here. The concentration will change with boiling. You can't clacluate on the starter figures because they aren't going to be the vape figures.
Anyway - again talking about small amounts. You can go down to many rabbit holes if you don't undertand the physiology.The link to the lab reports that Rhonda posted is a good read for anyone curious. This thread has sort devolved into speculations about chemicals that might be used in vaping now and has probably run its course.
No, the concentration does not actually change because its boiling. The only thing that affects the concentration is the air your adding to the mixture as its vaporized. To change the concentration of a substance in relation to other present substances some of the substance has to be either discarded or decomposed. You can't pretend to discard it in air/liquid tight channel piping straight to your your lungs simply because it is more gaseous than before. Plus most vendor bought PV's don't get to ethyl's boiling point. So its a mute argument.
I have to agree that its run its coarse. Been a great and fun first thread to get to know and understand the community here
But I do want to point out I've yet to bring up anything that can't be found in the existing ingredients for liquids that were available at a local shop.
Look sorry but that is just not correct. If you started with 100% you could say that. But it won't be. When you burn what it's mixed with there are different burn off rates for the different components - the concentration per volume changes. I'm not saying that's good or bad - but the vv changes.
Ok, so the alcohol concentration goes up a minuscule amount since some trace chemicals in the other flavorings will burn at such low temps. Alcohol itself doesn't auto-ignite till about 365C (well after decomposition) and if your atty is sparking to ignite it at less you have worse problems to tend to.
Yes, it may go up by vv (volume - not talking about variable voltage), and yes, as I said before, it's a small amount and I don't think it's anything to worry about.
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I have to correct myself on one thing. I had been operating on the assumption PVs ran cooler than they really do. Seems was some rather outdated information. From what I gathered today modern PVs are geared towards 150C. Alcohol still wont auto-ignite at that temp, but, it certainly will boil. My apologies.
I've changed my mind about Vanillin again. I recently picked up a new vanilla flavoring that used both natural and artificial flavoring. When I tried it out I definitely started to feel the effects of carbon-monoxide poisoning. Which is something I'm both familiar with and with watching out for having grown up in an old-fashioned auto-shop. I have other vanilla flavorings that don't cause this problem. The only difference is with this new one I couldn't verify if it had Vanillin before ordering.
Well if vanilla is bad or poisonous I would have been dead long ago. I love the stuff.
Vanillin is not Vanilla. Vanilla contains trace amounts of Vanillin, yet, modern Vanillin is extracted from wood instead. Having a potent Vanilla-like taste it is used in many (but not all) artificial Vanilla flavors.
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