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This mod would be more up my alley due to its smaller profile but it seems this suffers from voltage inaccuracy just like about every other chinese mod. :(

I've read a little about this voltage inaccuracy, yes probably the Gripper suffer from it, but you know what, press the fire button and it works, lower the volts and you will vape at a lower volts, it works, same thing if you raise the volts, it still gonna work at a higher volts. I'm much more concerned about the battery door than anything else :)
 

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Had the gripper for several weeks now and have since carefully opened it and JB welded the connector and super glued case back together and no problems now with DID20 genesis screwed into the 510 connector.
I use the flat top efest 2000mah batteries and carefully open and close battery door no problems there but i can see how they might arise with the plastic latches.
Reminds me of the battery door on my digital camera with exception it has long metal pin going into plastic holes on each side.
 

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Zurd:7739920 said:
This mod would be more up my alley due to its smaller profile but it seems this suffers from voltage inaccuracy just like about every other chinese mod. :(

I've read a little about this voltage inaccuracy, yes probably the Gripper suffer from it, but you know what, press the fire button and it works, lower the volts and you will vape at a lower volts, it works, same thing if you raise the volts, it still gonna work at a higher volts. I'm much more concerned about the battery door than anything else :)

Having a good vape experience is all that matters in the end. My point was mainly on cost versus proper function.

When you spend a decent chunk of change on a device, you should expect it to work as advertised. If the device doesn't properly output the voltages it says it is ... you might as well ditch the lcd screen and save your consumer some money.

It would be like spending an extra $500 on a digital speedometer for your car only to find out it's off by 15 mph.
 

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JMHO, proper function and measured accuracy are two completely different things. Realistically, the whole Vrms/Vavg argument is just a state of mind. Tell your mind that the number on the display is a meaningless arbitrary number and dial to taste. If the displays on VV devices were 1-10, I don't thing this "problem" would even exist.
 

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Rader2146:7740882 said:
JMHO, proper function and measured accuracy are two completely different things. Realistically, the whole Vrms/Vavg argument is just a state of mind. Tell your mind that the number on the display is a meaningless arbitrary number and dial to taste. If the displays on VV devices were 1-10, I don't thing this "problem" would even exist.

Well that's the thing. Whats the point of spending more money on a device with a display and chipset if it doesn't work?

As a manufacturer you're better off keeping it manual and saving costs so you can pass those savings unto the customer.

Using electronics that add cost and potential faults while not being accurate makes little sense. (Unless you're suckering people into the "cool" factor and expect device failures to secure future re-purchases of course)
 
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I'm thinking of buying Genesis Style Atty Clone, I'm completely spun over MISTer E's Spin-E coils, I'm really keen to give these coils a try.
Has anyone used their Genesis or similar on the Gripper, does your Gen /clone work well on it, what are your favourite Ω's and wrap setup?
Which of your atty's give you the best vaping experience on the Gripper?
 

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Well that's the thing. Whats the point of spending more money on a device with a display and chipset if it doesn't work?

As a manufacturer you're better off keeping it manual and saving costs so you can pass those savings unto the customer.

Using electronics that add cost and potential faults while not being accurate makes little sense. (Unless you're suckering people into the "cool" factor and expect device failures to secure future re-purchases of course)

I have many PV's and several VV devices and the Gripper is my favorite VV because it is a light weight 18650 and very comfortable to hold and vapes very good. It is extremely easy to check batt charge, adjust voltage or check Resistance of carto and that is what I want in a VV device. I have a SS V2 ZMax which I like a lot mostly because it is a VW device but if I was going to use it in the VV mode I prefer the Gripper. The only drawback to the Gripper is it is made of plastic but that is what makes it light. If you drop it on a hard surface it might break but I've dropped mine several times and been able to put it back together and nothing has broke yet.
 

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That's probably my biggest gripe with the gripper ... the cheap plastic casing. From what I hear, the battery life of this device is AMAZING and that's what got me looking at it initially.

Tell you what though, if someone would come out with an aluminum or harder plastic casing for this device it has the potential to easily become one of the most recommended devices. I imagine that WILL happen sooner than later given the amount of cloning that happens.
 

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That's probably my biggest gripe with the gripper ... the cheap plastic casing. From what I hear, the battery life of this device is AMAZING and that's what got me looking at it initially.

Tell you what though, if someone would come out with an aluminum or harder plastic casing for this device it has the potential to easily become one of the most recommended devices. I imagine that WILL happen sooner than later given the amount of cloning that happens.

You might be interested in the new Innokin MVP it is all metal and very well made. It is a 26650 and has a permanent batt is VV from 3.3 to 5 V. The only thing I don't like about it is it doesn't read resistance. There are several good reviews out on it and there is a co-op for them that might still be open. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/coop-planning-discussion/348651-innokin-mvp.html
 

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I'm thinking of buying Genesis Style Atty Clone, I'm completely spun over MISTer E's Spin-E coils, I'm really keen to give these coils a try.
Has anyone used their Genesis or similar on the Gripper, does your Gen /clone work well on it, what are your favourite Ω's and wrap setup?
Which of your atty's give you the best vaping experience on the Gripper?
I use a DID20 on my gripper a 1.7 ohm coil @ 3.4 volts equal to 6.8 watts and 2 amps.
I use mesh and and hand wind kanthal A-1 32G around mesh .
To clean coil i slide mesh out of coil and dry burn then rinse mesh in hot water.
Here in pictures you can see the coil glowing albeit dim as its hard to capture with my camera before it glows like the sun.
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You might be interested in the new Innokin MVP it is all metal and very well made. It is a 26650 and has a permanent batt is VV from 3.3 to 5 V. The only thing I don't like about it is it doesn't read resistance. There are several good reviews out on it and there is a co-op for them that might still be open. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/coop-planning-discussion/348651-innokin-mvp.html
I've been looking at this too, I like it, I like the look of it but for me the down side is the permanent battery. Pity they haven't created one that would use batteries similar to those in cellphones.:blink: That would be nice.
 

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I've been looking at this too, I like it, I like the look of it but for me the down side is the permanent battery. Pity they haven't created one that would use batteries similar to those in cellphones.:blink: That would be nice.

Indeed, we all buy those 14500, 18650, etc. batteries + chargers and now comes a mod that doesn't support it, I don't get it. Plus the fact that it doesn't read ohms, not for me!
 

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I've been looking at this too, I like it, I like the look of it but for me the down side is the permanent battery. Pity they haven't created one that would use batteries similar to those in cellphones.:blink: That would be nice.

It is the type they use in other electronic devices like a cell phone. It can be replaced just not easily.
 

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Indeed, we all buy those 14500, 18650, etc. batteries + chargers and now comes a mod that doesn't support it, I don't get it. Plus the fact that it doesn't read ohms, not for me!

It isn't one I would get for my only PV but is a good one to have and take on trips. You can charge your cellphone with it too in an emergency.
 

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Easily is what I meant, apologies for not phrasing myself better.;)
Off the shelf, out the store, in the device, easy in easy out.
If can it make calls and receive emails so much the better.:D
Right now, no such luck.
Give it a few months who knows what pv's will be capable of, but for me, my Gripper ticks all the boxes.
I get an excellent vape, my vn's work great on it, my batteries last forever. So what if it's slightly out on the ohms reader, no worse than other vv's around, it really comes down to performance and it does that. *Touch wood*.
I honestly cannot complain about my Gripper. *Touch more wood*.
The only real niggles seem to be the wobbly connector and fragile casing. For an entry level vv it's great.
Although that Mpv is rather sexy.;)
 
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