There are several automobiles that are that way. Crazy!
Heather's Heavenly Vapes - THE BIG THREAD (Part 5)
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That's exactly right. There's lot of designs like that. Some cars use non-metal timing chains (called timing belts) that are designed to last about 100,000 miles. The repair requires tearing half your car apart to get to it. And then they always talk you into replacing the water pump and other nearby parts that become accessible "while they have the car torn apart". My MIL (and recently April) incurred $2,000 plus repair bills for their timing belts. There is no reason to make the timing belt out of non-metal other than to smoke you on a repair down the road. People who buy the cars don't usually care or even ask the question about it. I mean, who keeps a brand new car that long and who cares what happens 8 years later? Right?
I lucked out-bought a 2005 Ford Focus some years back(used) and checked into having timing belt changed at 100k miles,turns out 2005 was the first year of return to chain drive.................hehe
I do too but we are in the minority. And I noticed you didn't look at your maintenance schedule when you bought your 2005.
If you look at the Honda maintenance schedule the timing belt is right in there at like 90,000 miles. So when a customer moans and groans at the Honda repair shop they just show you it is a regular maintenance item like an oil change.
You can best believe that I would check into it before I purchase a vehicle , I also insist upon a full sized spare tire , no full sized spare , no sale , I made salesmens jaws drop when I walked out after they told me no can do .
Cheesy spare tire...that's a pet peeve of mine too. I've bought five brand new cars in my life (two that I drove). I walked out on two of them because they wouldn't give me the deal I wanted. They both called back the next day and caved.
I learned the hard way when I was a kid and bought a brand new Chevy. A few years later I was looking at my bill of sale and saw I got charged some $500 for an extended warranty that I did not ask for. They snuck it in there and like a fool I didn't read the bill of sale as closely as I should have before signing it (they made those intentionally confusing too). Boy did I learn a lesson! And the thing is, the guy that owned the dealership lived three houses down from my house (actually my parents house). I remember one day coming home (before I bought that car) I saw his mailbox was on fire. So i stopped and put it out. Had I known he was a crook I would have pulled the mailbox out of the ground and threw it in his garage and let the whole damn thing burn down. That's OK, I knew his kid who was a year younger than me (and a dweeb). I treated him like crap and let him know his old man was an azzwipe.
They usually cave before you leave the dealership down here , but they had to run to catch up with me a few times , I have no patience for games and bullcrap .Cheesy spare tire...that's a pet peeve of mine too. I've bought five brand new cars in my life (two that I drove). I walked out on two of them because they wouldn't give me the deal I wanted. They both called back the next day and caved.
I learned the hard way when I was a kid and bought a brand new Chevy. A few years later I was looking at my bill of sale and saw I got charged some $500 for an extended warranty that I did not ask for. They snuck it in there and like a fool I didn't read the bill of sale as closely as I should have before signing it (they made those intentionally confusing too). Boy did I learn a lesson! And the thing is, the guy that owned the dealership lived three houses down from my house (actually my parents house). I remember one day coming home (before I bought that car) I saw his mailbox was on fire. So i stopped and put it out. Had I known he was a crook I would have pulled the mailbox out of the ground and threw it in his garage and let the whole damn thing burn down. That's OK, I knew his kid who was a year younger than me (and a dweeb). I treated him like crap and let him know his old man was an azzwipe.
Me either. I tell the sales kid I have a limit on how many trips he can make to his manager. I told him he better come back with his best deal because I'm not giving him another chance. Sure enough, I left. "But, but, but, Mr. Bronze........."! LMAO!
Ahem:at 150k miles,Maintenance SchedulesI do too but we are in the minority. And I noticed you didn't look at your maintenance schedule when you bought your 2005.
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I was planning ahead-it says nothing about drive belts,only "accessory belts"-had to dig allover internet before I found out they had chains-not non chain drive.
Belt drive would not have stopped my purchase anyway.
Yup , I went with a 4 cylinder in a Nissan truck instead of a 6 for just that reason .
I have to say the best vehicle I ever owned is the one I have now. A 1993 Dodge Dakota. Bought it brand new. I take care of it. It is 22 years old now and has 160 some thousand miles on it. I haven't had to replace/repair too many things other than the normal stuff like batteries, tires, belts, etc.. I was just thinking today that I haven't even changed any of the exhaust parts. And the first 5 years was spent driving on those salty Illinois roads in the winter. It's a stainless steel exhaust system. I remember about 13 years ago the know-it-all grease monkey at the Jiffy Lube tried telling me my exhaust was about to go. LOL! just another reason why i quit taking my vehicle to those 5 minute lube joints. I just do everything myself unless I don't have the tools or equipment. if I never did it before I figure it out. Cars are not that complicated.
Heaven forbid I need a new alternator-almost would have to pull the engine,my mechanic said they build the car around the alternator........
I've owned two 4Runners. The first was a 2003 with a v8 and full time 4wd. Absolutely a great vehicle that was as reliable as an anvil. But it had a timing belt that required a 90,000 mile change. And, yes, you might as well replace the water pump while you're in there. And don't think about skipping the timing belt replacement because it is an "interference" style engine, which means if the timing belt breaks, then pistons and valves starting banging into each other. My son has it now, and it has about 180,000 miles on it.
My second (current) 4Runner is a 2007 4wd with a v6 and has a timing chain. I may be slow, but I do learn some things.
Come to think of it, that 2003 4Runner is probably due for another timing belt. Dang it. I wish I hadn't read this thread.
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