do you know where i can go for those blue ones that are sold in the US? I love the Precise and would take a very large person with a very large Gun to pry it from my hands even then i may not give it up that easy lol....
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do you know where i can go for those blue ones that are sold in the US? I love the Precise and would take a very large person with a very large Gun to pry it from my hands even then i may not give it up that easy lol....
I've been searching for those blue ones and I cant find any. The only ones I can find are unprotected.... deal extreme takes way to long...
mods in triplecate;-) I do imagine they'll take two CR123a's tooNot so sure 6v isn't going the way of the dinosaur though with the new low resistance atties coming out?
Uhhggg! I see it heading that way myself and am extremely disappointed. I've tried them both side by side and while the "simulated 5 volt" vaping is a better 3.7 experience... it is NOT a 5 volt experience. Is it wrong of me to pray that a high drain, low ohm atty combo explodes so the safety nuts will go attack them and leave my stack-able battery mods alone? <---- Please forgive the venting (no pun intended).
LOL, don't worry, i think most 18650 mods (including my upcoming ones) will take two stacked cr123a's;-)
oh man I went there and they have the 10440's I already have but the blue ones are not protected but are 350 mah. Precise only takes protected because of the length. I may just have to get the LR 510 atties just for the Precise.
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I see, there are some blue protected ones out there that don't say ultrafire on them. I'll have to check. I also have some Grey ultrafires that i have that work great, i'm getting in some of those too, hopefully soon. I'll look for the other source of the blue ones i saw, because the ones i have i didn't get from madvapes.
Hey Grimmer
I am using the gray Trustfires, in my Precises, and they are working great. They come off the charger at 4.15 to 4.2 and are usually back on the charger when they drop off to around 3.5v. Since I am a light vapor, they provide around 3 hours of use before I see an appreciable drop in performance.
The batteries are around 3 months old and I haven't experienced any loss in power.
The only time I see a reduction in performance, is when the contacts need to be cleaned. I find this with all of my mods so a quick wipe and a light touch with 400 grit and all is back to normal.
I may have been lucky but all 6 of mine work to expectations.
Hope you get it resolved.
Bob
I am using the gray Trustfires, in my Precises, and they are working great. They come off the charger at 4.15 to 4.2 and are usually back on the charger when they drop off to around 3.5v. Since I am a light vapor, they provide around 3 hours of use before I see an appreciable drop in performance.
The batteries are around 3 months old and I haven't experienced any loss in power.
The only time I see a reduction in performance, is when the contacts need to be cleaned. I find this with all of my mods so a quick wipe and a light touch with 400 grit and all is back to normal.
I may have been lucky but all 6 of mine work to expectations.
Hope you get it resolved.
Bob
it may just be my batteries..... im going to try a different source and see how those go....
I have to say...I enjoyed this little battery convo.
But I'm left still in the middle of the road.....IMR aw or protected aw in the 16340 precise.
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If you do not plan on using an LR atty (many don't) then the AWs. If you plan on using an LR atty then the IMRs.
really I'd say IMR... with the LR atties and the joye 510 the amp draw exceeds the max drain rate of the battery and over stresses it....all the other atties while the amp draw is less than the max drain rate it's close and while it's not overstressing the battery it is stressing it quite a bit...
max drain rate of the AW protected 16340 is 1.5A
compared to drain rates:
1.5Ω LR atty is about 2.47A
joye 510 is about 1.61A
standard 3Ω carto is about 1.23A
turbo carto is about 1.19A
slb 510 atties about 1.16A
801 about 1.06A
901 about 1.00A
versus the amp draw on the IMR 16340 at about 4.4A
even the amp draw of the LR atties (the most demanding) are just barely over half of what the battery is capable of..
Since your not stacking the 16340's a protected batt isn't that necessary.
I use the AW IMR 16340's in the T1 and they're superb
I use the AW IMR 16340's in the T1 and they're superb
I based my recommendation on longevity between the need to re-charge.
Perhaps a better comparison would be the actual life cycle between charges of both batts, vice theoretical equations, although admittedly a good basis to start from. Should the latter be insignificant, then by all means the IMR any day of the week, and 3 times on Sunday.
To some frequency between charging cycles is or seems more important than overall battery life, which stressing a battery will undoubtedly shorten.
Perhaps a better comparison would be the actual life cycle between charges of both batts, vice theoretical equations, although admittedly a good basis to start from. Should the latter be insignificant, then by all means the IMR any day of the week, and 3 times on Sunday.
To some frequency between charging cycles is or seems more important than overall battery life, which stressing a battery will undoubtedly shorten.
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even with theoretical equasions...I'd agree with you that if the amp draw of the battery doesnt exceed the max drain rate of the battery then yeah time between recharge has got it...granted you may have to replace the batteries more frequently...but at that same point depending on the size, if you're going to toss out the theoretical equations and stressing or overstressing the batteries then might as well just go with *fire batteries too since they're cheaper, and will last longer between charges (til the overstressing shortens their overall life and ability to take and hold a charge)..(the exception to this being the 18650 size where several of the *fires are just crap)
uuuuuum, do not know about that one.
One of the things that has been proven is the *fire series mAh ratings are grossly exagerated and perhaps not the best battery to buy, price wise yes, performance no. This does become an important factor when deciding which battery to get.
The 16340 is probably the battery size right now that is sitting on the fence so to speak IMHO and falls in the limbo zone. By all means for batteries below 16340, I would recommend IMRs, anything above the 16430 LI Ion. This is the conclusions I have drawn from many conversations, pro and con between the two.
The reason I also tend to go this way, is that there is an inherent danger of over discharging IMRs. They might be safer chemistry but many do not use their batteries safely e.g LR attys on stock batteries or 10440s. Although a protection circuit like anything else is only good until it fails, it gives peace of mind if nothing else.
One of the things that has been proven is the *fire series mAh ratings are grossly exagerated and perhaps not the best battery to buy, price wise yes, performance no. This does become an important factor when deciding which battery to get.
The 16340 is probably the battery size right now that is sitting on the fence so to speak IMHO and falls in the limbo zone. By all means for batteries below 16340, I would recommend IMRs, anything above the 16430 LI Ion. This is the conclusions I have drawn from many conversations, pro and con between the two.
The reason I also tend to go this way, is that there is an inherent danger of over discharging IMRs. They might be safer chemistry but many do not use their batteries safely e.g LR attys on stock batteries or 10440s. Although a protection circuit like anything else is only good until it fails, it gives peace of mind if nothing else.
the place I see the gross exageration and lack of QC the most on the *fire brands is in the 18650 size...less significantly in the 16340 size...
I'd agree the 16340 is the tipping point in the IMR or Li-Ion debate..from the math standpoint I'm putting the 16340 in the IMR zone...and I agree that 18650 goes to Li-Ion (the extra Amps at the trade off for longevity between charges is overkill)..
As for people not using batteries properly...yeah that's a given...but if they do so with an AW IMR and overdischarge it...well from everything I've read and gathered and discussed the worst case senario is that it just might not take a charge (over depleted pat the point it'll take a charge)... if you follow that even the IMR still have the PTC just as the AW IC Li-Ions do..
I agree! Maybe gross was too strong a word, but I have 1000mAh ultrafire's that syphon buffalo balls in comparison to my AWs 750mAh. I will concede however they are twice the price.
I think 14500s are on the fence in this way too.
I use the 16340s. I've chosen to use the IMRs for LR attys and won't use the ICRs with them. For cartos and 901s, I choose to use the ICRs (longer runtime). Std 510s... I'm on the fence.
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