Hong Kong. Has banned all exportation of E.Cigs.
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HK still operates as an independent island with it's own laws and regulations. They are still very westernised - don't expect mainland China to follow suit any time soon. They continue to produce many goods that are illegal to produce anywhere else - and prosper for it. They know what they are good at!
yeah pretty much every forum on the net is full of people who imbibe drama.
"doomsayers"
I'm not at all worried about the HK ban.
They will skirt around this issue like they do anything else.
The e-cig itself will never go away now that we know about it.
It wont stop the Products coming through but it is another headache, i got a shipment today of 2000 kits, this was 1 half of an order. The other half has been sent back. They were shipped at different times. My fluid orders have been split in three. TNT normally carry it, they refused.
It can off course come through Beijing or shanghai, some will get through Hong Kong, but it appears to me, today at least that for now HK are enforcing the ban.
They cant im sure stop batteries and atomisers, but who knows. All i do know is that definetely from two of my three suppliers they are scurrying around looking for alternatives, so i agree it can still relatively easily be over come, but its going to give people second thoughts on risking it.
It can off course come through Beijing or shanghai, some will get through Hong Kong, but it appears to me, today at least that for now HK are enforcing the ban.
They cant im sure stop batteries and atomisers, but who knows. All i do know is that definetely from two of my three suppliers they are scurrying around looking for alternatives, so i agree it can still relatively easily be over come, but its going to give people second thoughts on risking it.
I still believe that the e-cig community will have too many supporters by the time they try to stop it .... VAPE TO THE GRAVE!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree to a point, they can't stop everything, however, I would much rather it all stays on the up and up. I'm not to keen on this going gray and black market.
well if push comes to shovel i think it will be easier to stop vaping than it would be to get off the cancer sticks .... the messing around with batteries and topping off all the time has got me wondering "is it all worth it?" ... then i inhale my 36mg and feel it scratching my throat and blow out a huge plume of vapour and revel in the warm glowey feeling that its just delivered by expressmail to my brain .....hmmmmm ...
oh sorry started waffling a bit there waaaa
oh sorry started waffling a bit there waaaa
Wow. What a thread to come home to.
Seems like a lot of panic here over something someone read on another forum? Isn't this a bit weak on the "its true" meter?
Links? News items? And WHY would HK do that? Aren't they all super capitalists?
Regardless, this does point to something. We're all paranoid about governments banning and controlling this for corporate interests. The issues, it seems to me, is that we somehow need to have some kind of organized voice (or at least a voice!) advocating for these. For instance, we should all be responding to all news items.... writing to reporters and so on.
Seems like a lot of panic here over something someone read on another forum? Isn't this a bit weak on the "its true" meter?
Links? News items? And WHY would HK do that? Aren't they all super capitalists?
Regardless, this does point to something. We're all paranoid about governments banning and controlling this for corporate interests. The issues, it seems to me, is that we somehow need to have some kind of organized voice (or at least a voice!) advocating for these. For instance, we should all be responding to all news items.... writing to reporters and so on.
If they do stop us from vaping, I'm never going to buy cigarettes. My hatred for them doing this will overwhelm my addiction. Might be good after all, although honestly I love vaping, and I hope they don't screw this all up. Everything I liked about smoking with next to nothing I hated about it. I'll be damned if I give the big tobacco companies ONE CENT if they get their wishes in this.
That resonates for me too - I'm fed up with being "farmed" by others - our institutions treat us like a crop or animals to raise for profit, trimmed, pruned , sprayed with health advice and regulated so we live and die as a profitable generation of taxpayers: just wheat to be harvested or sheep to be fleeced.
I just ordered 3 more e-juice from Totally Wicked and 5 extra atomizers. My first 901 atomizer which im still using is still going strong. Hopefully it keeps it up.
This is the only time i wished China central government would interfere with the affairs of HK. What the hell is the US government doing anyways? Going after e-cigs when our economy is ****. Sigh, i guess Obama is just another idiot, from what i have been reading around anyways....
For all those people saying that e-cigs will never be banned....we seem to be going in a slippery slope. Many other countries have banned them already, many more will follow suit. I just wish the US government would just charge their freaking tax for the e-juice, be happy, continue to stick their fingers up their anus' like they have always have and leave us alone.
This also makes me wonder why is it that big tobacco companies just dont release their own version of e-juice? Im pretty sure they are able to get FDA approval and everything, plus they will be able to capitalize the whole US market and abroad with them. One 30 ml bottle costs more than a pack of cigarettes, so i just dont see a problem with loss revenue for them.
This is the only time i wished China central government would interfere with the affairs of HK. What the hell is the US government doing anyways? Going after e-cigs when our economy is ****. Sigh, i guess Obama is just another idiot, from what i have been reading around anyways....
For all those people saying that e-cigs will never be banned....we seem to be going in a slippery slope. Many other countries have banned them already, many more will follow suit. I just wish the US government would just charge their freaking tax for the e-juice, be happy, continue to stick their fingers up their anus' like they have always have and leave us alone.
This also makes me wonder why is it that big tobacco companies just dont release their own version of e-juice? Im pretty sure they are able to get FDA approval and everything, plus they will be able to capitalize the whole US market and abroad with them. One 30 ml bottle costs more than a pack of cigarettes, so i just dont see a problem with loss revenue for them.
Well if big tobacco gets their hands on our ejuice I'm sure they'll be putting extra c##p in it like they do the analogs so we will be addicted to more than just nicotine. Then big government will add huge taxes on it like they do analogs.
suppliers are you getting your orders thru,
out of Hong Kong ??
since the ban .....
are you able to order everything,
or have some products become -
unavailable ......
Di ......
out of Hong Kong ??
since the ban .....
are you able to order everything,
or have some products become -
unavailable ......
Di ......
well one large UK supplier is having problems else this thread would not have started..
we going to have to wait a couple of weeks to see how this pans out and what ways if any can be found around it..
panic talk and panic stocking up isnt going to help anything.. it dosnt make sense to me for china to shut down a high money making export business.. but jasons report dosnt look good thats for sure..
china is suffering from dropping exports in general... to be honest none of this makes any real sense to me.. but i take it seriously simply because the report comes from jason..
if he says there are problems there are problems..
small orders getting out dosnt mean much.. if the big suppliers cant get stuff out there is major problems.. the supply chain is buggered.. panic stocking up will simply make a bad situation worse.. dont get me wrong its human nature to do this but all it does is bring the total run out time forwards..
suppliers will simply put up the shutters on their shops..
trog
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