Very nice! So the Micro-Gen and the Reo are playing nice together! Looks like a hell of a combo. Well done sir! 
Does it vape as good at it looks?
Does it vape as good at it looks?
How to make a Micro-Gen... The smallest Genisis atomizer.
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It is the best of both worlds, for sure! (Although, just between you and me, that RM2 atomizer is really good too) I now feel soooo lucky that I ordered all the wrong parts for my Micro-Gens. HAH
That's the thing... There are no "wrong parts"... Just the parts you decide to use.
The "tank" is the bottom feeder in the Reo? I'm waiting for you guys to develop a mini genisis that is very short, but with a tank coming out the side, something like the Billet box, but very low profile.
I've actually put some thought into the idea... The problem is the airflow. With a vertical wick and coil the airflow typically comes from the side. Sticking it in a tank makes a side air hole impossible.
The only solution I've come up with... drill a drip tip and insert a syringe needle that can pull air from the base of the drip tip and direct it onto the coil without any holes in the carto tube.
Think... Orion V3 top deck bumbs uglies with an eGo tank mouth piece.
Like this... But coming out of the drip tip instead of the deck...
The real problem from there is space... How to fit a wide enough needle, to get good airflow, between the tank wall and the pos post, without creating any shorts...
So I started it. Here is the URL
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=418942
It might be slow going.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=418942
It might be slow going.
This thread seems to be the second of the two so i'll post here:
We can't stop here.... I don't DIY... uh uh... no. But man this little dude is killer! I have a nextel wicked .75 Ohms Micro Gen from Jasl90.
(It pays to make friends here...) and this should get out to the vaping fiends.
pdib described why he likes it... the vaping profile; "bass notes... plus.." not sure what he meant exactly, and its all pretty subjective, but this atty could use some defining in that area.
I don't know enough about it all to pin it down, you know, the design of an RBA RDA dictates a lot of how an atty is going to vape; what flavor/vapor range you're going to get.
It just kicks ....... at .75 you know its going to have some instant action there ... full on vapor production and fabulous taste. I'm getting 10-15 drops without leaking... no flooding.
I can't wait to try it with ss mesh...
I feel that ss mesh or pc2000 is a more "zingy" flavor than silica/nextel/cotton... i like both.
anyway, i'll be playing with this one, couldn't put it down today... it does get hot, but i like to chain vape low nic all the time, and just want to say I hope we see more of this Micro Gen.
We can't stop here.... I don't DIY... uh uh... no. But man this little dude is killer! I have a nextel wicked .75 Ohms Micro Gen from Jasl90.
(It pays to make friends here...) and this should get out to the vaping fiends.
pdib described why he likes it... the vaping profile; "bass notes... plus.." not sure what he meant exactly, and its all pretty subjective, but this atty could use some defining in that area.
I don't know enough about it all to pin it down, you know, the design of an RBA RDA dictates a lot of how an atty is going to vape; what flavor/vapor range you're going to get.
It just kicks ....... at .75 you know its going to have some instant action there ... full on vapor production and fabulous taste. I'm getting 10-15 drops without leaking... no flooding.
I can't wait to try it with ss mesh...
I feel that ss mesh or pc2000 is a more "zingy" flavor than silica/nextel/cotton... i like both.
anyway, i'll be playing with this one, couldn't put it down today... it does get hot, but i like to chain vape low nic all the time, and just want to say I hope we see more of this Micro Gen.
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That's actually the main reason I sent it to you. You have a pretty broad range of high end rebuildables, including some drippers. I'm curious to see how it measures up with the rest of your stable. I figured that if you're reaching over them to pick this up then I know the design is in the ballpark of where I want it to be.
Cool. I'm glad you're liking it so far.It just kicks ....... at .75 you know its going to have some instant action there ... full on vapor production and fabulous taste. I'm getting 10-15 drops without leaking... no flooding.
I can't wait to try it with ss mesh...
I feel that ss mesh or pc2000 is a more "zingy" flavor than silica/nextel/cotton... i like both.
anyway, i'll be playing with this one, couldn't put it down today... it does get hot, but i like to chain vape low nic all the time, and just want to say I hope we see more of this Micro Gen.
Yea... It does get hot. It seems to be an unavoidable consequence of putting a sub-ohm coil in a package that small.
My grinder went .... up a couple weeks ago and I'll need to replace it before I can do more fish wicks. That should be a project for next week. I'll send a couple when I have some more. I can also throw in a few SS wicks as well.
I may also try to do a quick video on recoiling it. I think it's pretty intuitive but I've also got a lot of practice, so I may not be the best judge of that.
jasl... these are worth any price you put on them. I spent my allowance on HH357's for almost a year back when Genesis first came out; GLV and Line... waited a year to get into Genesis which had gone sub 1.0 Ohms by then.
Folks are into RDA's now and both Gen and RDA market is saturated...
Anyway, i sold off all my conventional atomizers to stock up on HH357's during that year because of flavor improvement.... lol i had about 100 DSE 901 LR's.
We all know RBA's have it over HH357s, and so does the Micro Gen (in spades). If you start selling these like Hanna, you should be able to compete; 357's aren't in the same ballpark as this.
I still don't know which or how to zero in on where or how this MG fits in to whats out there today; but imo its as good or better than any.
I'm trading hits with this (nextel MG) and my Gryphon Ti... which is my favorite dripper (has center air hole post, high neg/pos posts for lots of juice, smallish chamber... MG is as good if not better
Depending on how easy it is to set up (and how "micro" it is... lol), it could compete with the Diver (which i don't have time or patience for btw)... now to hook you up with Cisco...
The heat is not really a big issue dude... i'm just greedy... with low nic you lose your sense of limits haha.
btw the .75 is perfect; its not hot at all.
I'd be happy to help out with gear (grinder etc) if you're gonna send me a couple more. Can't wait to try ss mesh and ceramic.
That's awesome. Thank you for the kind words. It's actually shorter than the diver. I cut about 1/2" off a standard length 808D carto to make the outer tube.
I need to get a few more made. It's just been a pita trying to put my hands on 510 to 808 shorty adapters. There are a few more people I want to send prototypes to for feedback before I start contacting machine shops.
My biggest worries are #1 people won't like the fact that it resembles a regular carto and #2 people will want to use them with carto tanks. The current design isn't tank friendly... Although I do have a few ideas along those lines...
I need to get a few more made. It's just been a pita trying to put my hands on 510 to 808 shorty adapters. There are a few more people I want to send prototypes to for feedback before I start contacting machine shops.
My biggest worries are #1 people won't like the fact that it resembles a regular carto and #2 people will want to use them with carto tanks. The current design isn't tank friendly... Although I do have a few ideas along those lines...
i think your first target could be HH357 type users... theres plenty of those out there...and this tops HH357. it may cost alot more to make but i know he hand fits these.
more to come
Competition for the Diver would be welcome. The Killer is a PIA, or so I've read. Anything that would fit in a Billet box would also be very popular.
I've been subscribed to this thread for a while, it's nice to see it come alive again. Excellent work, BTW.
Hopefully a tank friendly design will be possible, cartomizers are...
Best of luck to you jasl90!
I've been subscribed to this thread for a while, it's nice to see it come alive again. Excellent work, BTW.
Hopefully a tank friendly design will be possible, cartomizers are...
Best of luck to you jasl90!
Competition for the Diver would be welcome. The Killer is a PIA, or so I've read. Anything that would fit in a Billet box would also be very popular.
I've been subscribed to this thread for a while, it's nice to see it come alive again. Excellent work, BTW.
Hopefully a tank friendly design will be possible, cartomizers are...
Best of luck to you jasl90!
Thank you
The problem with a tank is the fact that the MG uses a side hole for airflow. I've had a couple ideas about how to make it work. The 1st and simplest idea is to create a drip tip with a "snorkel" that can pipe air down from the top onto the coil. The problem there is space constraints. A snorkel thin enough to clear the wick and coil would have a very tight draw.
The other idea is to build a tank specifically for this atty that the base would screw into. Kinda similar to the way the base screws into the tank section of a Kanger Protank.
The BilletBox would be especially challenging. I've never put my hands on one but I seem to recall that there is something that covers the top of the carto that holds in place and the drip tip goes into that... Assuming I'm wrong, are you able to use XL cartos? If so, it may be as simple as making a longer version that sets the coil and air hole above the top of the box.
Not a bad idea... I keep forgetting that there are actually people still dripping on traditional atomizers.
The real key is finding out what it'll cost to do an actual production run...
yeah... depending on costs, but the feasibility of rebuilding adds a whole new value.
people actually buy those conventional atomizers by the thousands, and they are "disposable".
HH357's are like $25 a pop and they are just as disposable; why? the flavor value over say a joye or cisco 510/901 etc.
If you sold these already setup, the convenience (and the flavor/vapor improvement) is huge. Add in rebuildable factor, and away they go.
Dripper rebuildables are huge right now... and you can get a clone for the cost of a 510 today.
The value there is flavor (and more vapor) due to the design differences from a 510...
This is the same size but has the flavor/vapor of a larger rba rda.,,
I'd say it equals or betters the vapor/flavor of many rda... it seems to hold as much juice as an iGo L.
Talk about "stealth" this is the ultimate stealth rda... take your best vape anywhere.
(i don't know about 14500 IMR batts and sub 1.0 ohms... but that's portability)
We'll see, come time to clean and/or rebuild...
* can it be designed to bottom feed? most conventional attys work that way.... that could be another option.
The juice can be bottom fed. Pdib built one for his Reo. The air, not so much... A hollow neg post maybe...
holy crap... put that on a Reo..... i'm there!
Rob used to vape 901 lr's on his Reo's... i did too. the air hole is on the side, no problem...
Will do. Anyone know about someone manufacturing a little genny just like this?
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