I don't use a ProVari,

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Actually, Herbert Gilbert (american) patented the e-cig back in 1963, it just didn't catch on at that time. Hon Lik (chinese) simply re-introduced a decades old technology at the right time.

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Gilbert patented AN e-cig in 63. It was never marketed and never caught on. It's design and operation is very different than what we vape. The Gilbert e-cig did not use PG, did not create "vapor". It simply heated air and ran it through a chemical soaked filter. The Hon Lik device actually used piezeoelectric/ultrasonic technology to vaporize the liquid.

Most people credit Hon Lik because he later formed Ruyan and his device actually produced "vapor". The Gilbert device did not.

Ironically if we all were using the gilbert device, we'd get no objections from anyone because there would be no "vape". I also wonder how effective it would be?
 
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Pick nits much?

Here's Gilbert's diagram from 1963. Look familiar? Nice mod in my opinion! Drip tip and all...



It might look familiar....but it never produced any "vapor". I question how effective it would be without creating clouds. If it were just about getting a nicotine delivery system the Nicotrol should be way more effective than it is.

By creating the vapor, you create the throat hit and you create the cloud.

I personally think if it weren't for the "fake smoke" we wouldn't be vaping now. There's a reason why the Gilbert product never took off.
 

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It might look familiar....but it never produced any "vapor".
Meaning it would be an excellent stealth-vape. The ANTZ would never know you were using it.

By creating the vapor, you create the throat hit and you create the cloud.
I'm sorry, but I don't accept the premise that visible vapor equals TH. Straight VG juice produces the thickest clouds of vapor and practically no TH. Straight PG juice produces very little vapor and (arguably) excessive TH. And nicotine can produce TH even in the absence of visible vapor.
 

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...There's a reason why the Gilbert product never took off.
The reason being that it was never manufactured. Like many inventions, it was thought up, patented, and forgotten.

Ironically, the original prototype is probably worth millions to the right vaper. I mean, who wouldn't want to own the first e-cigarette ever made?
 
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Now THAT's what they need to do. Make a Cree/PV hybrid. A flashlight you can VAPE!!!!!. heck yeah!!!!

I'm ordering one of these just to have handy...
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The reason being that it was never manufactured. Like many inventions, it was thought up, patented, and forgotten.

Ironically, the original prototype is probably worth millions to the right vaper. I mean, who wouldn't want to own the first e-cigarette ever made?

No kidding. I really wanted to know how that whole piezo electric/high frequency/ultrasound thing worked. Now THAT sounds like an electronic cigarette.

What we vape now is little more than a lightbulb in a sponge.....Effective but not very sexy....
 
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Wonder if he feels like this guy?

No. The original Ruyan used piezoelectricity and high frequency ultrasonic technology to vape the liquid. It bore about the same resemblance to the Gilbert design as a neon light resembled an incandescent light bulb.

But it was the first one that was manufactured and it did create visible vapor.

The Gilbert design heated incoming air and passed that air through a "wick" but no vaporization ever took place. Just heating the air to approxmate the temperature of smoke. The Gilbert design was vaporless.
 

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I'm ordering one of these just to have handy...
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Pretty cool, but if you read the design, it won't work on any of the regulated mods. The unit probably shows appears to be too high a resistance and causes your unit to not fire because it doesn't sense an atty on it.
 

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No. The original Ruyan used piezoelectricity and high frequency ultrasonic technology to vape the liquid. It bore about the same resemblance to the Gilbert design as a neon light resembled an incandescent light bulb.

But it was the first one that was manufactured and it did create visible vapor.

The Gilbert design heated incoming air and passed that air through a "wick" but no vaporization ever took place. Just heating the air to approxmate the temperature of smoke. The Gilbert design was vaporless.

I meant one of them went on to make big bucks. :D
 

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Realize this was directed at bad, but I have a snarky comment to make.

Someone said that ProVari owners hated children, so wouldn't we then desire to fill our landfills and destroy our planet for all future children with out spent cartos, wick, wire, and clearo heads?

This is about as much sense at this whole thread makes to me.

Buy something, vape it, and don't smoke. Ain't that the point?

I was responding this post from Batitude.

"I'm from the old school mindset of buying quality with the idea its going to last for a long time, not the current mindset of today's disposable society. It's getting harder to identify these items, but the Provari is one of them. To each their own."

This, yet he uses a disposable topper. I find it a bit hypocritical.
 

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I was responding this post from Batitude.

"I'm from the old school mindset of buying quality with the idea its going to last for a long time, not the current mindset of today's disposable society. It's getting harder to identify these items, but the Provari is one of them. To each their own."

This, yet he uses a disposable topper. I find it a bit hypocritical.

I'm sure if they crated a topper that lasted for years, he'd use it. Even I dispose of my heads when the coil burns out. (I don't recoil because I suck at it.....I rewick and dry burn, but once the coil pops, it goes in the trash).
 

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I was responding this post from Batitude.

"I'm from the old school mindset of buying quality with the idea its going to last for a long time, not the current mindset of today's disposable society. It's getting harder to identify these items, but the Provari is one of them. To each their own."

This, yet he uses a disposable topper. I find it a bit hypocritical.

Oh get over it.
 

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I was responding this post from Batitude. This, yet he uses a disposable topper. I find it a bit hypocritical.

Baditude needs no one to defend him, the amount of appreciation he's received from others on this forum would make your head explode. Baditude is anything but a hyprocrite. He's also a personal friend.

It would do yourself some good to dig up his posts and see how much good he's done here. And just remember what bull you're trying to torro. You're new here, so it's understandable.
 
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