I am not worried about the carrying part.I am on the search for no hands. The cigalikes for hands free are not cutting it for me.
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I know you said you did not like autos too much. But, Vapor 4 Life has an automatic DAV that has a 3.5 mil carto that works with it called a smileomizer. It has a metal drip tip that screws into it and a large rubber cap that fits over it. This lets you hold the device hand free in your mouth and vape, the metal drip tip inside the rubber sleeve keeps you from blocking the air hole and least you get a grip with your teeth.
They also just released the Zeus not a VV but he same design as the DAV this also has a manual version. Hope this helps.


