I Just Pre Ordered My Prodigy Thread

[Cancer]

I know this is not a go everywhere vaporizer....it is an around the house,camping trip,cross country driving, all night PS3/xbox gaming session vaporizer with adapters for just about every device we own. I have a des-901(for bars and clubs) or my vapor king(as a backup) which is got a bigger cart and longer batt life. I needed a workhorse with no batteries that get liquid in switches,no 2 hour limits. This is not a convergence vaporizer,its made so you never need to worry about batteries on a daily basis.I also like supporting vendors/members of this forum who through advice and advertising on this forum give us this space to vent about this lifestyle that has changed "MOST" of our lives. I know there were cheaper alternatives(we are not stupid), yet supporting Cash's endeavor was about 40% of my reasoning for purchasing the Prodigy.

 

[green-lantern]

I don't think anything irks me more than when somebody says "looks like your smoking a crack pipe" God that pisses me off.

 

[GrimmGreen]

Crack pipe...

not a crack pipe...

learn the friggin difference

 

[LuckySevens4U]

OMG Green........LOL!!!!

 

[ZambucaLu]

Additionally, I cannot get past the crap pipe look of some of these newer models.

I don't think anything irks me more than when somebody says "looks like your smoking a crack pipe" God that pisses me off.

Get it right Green! Wonder if Grimm's got a pic of one of those?

Lu

 

[Flitzanu]

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Hi, my 1st post &
I've been reading about this .. but there is a lot to read here.
& I have some health issues .. so, I'll use that.
I need to get OFF of the reg. cigs.
I think I understand that this unit will use regular or rechargable
regular batteries that we can buy anywhere.
I think that would be a big help, since I see that many are having
so many problems with the batteries.
Is that right?
I want to order one What all do I need?
I want to order everything that I will need to begin with ..
does everything that I need come from the order site?
or do I need to add something from another site?
I have nothing now > ZERO.
I just found out about these a short time ago.
I would really appreciate it if someone would list the sites
and what I will need now and in the immediate future.
THANK YOU SO MUCH
(WOW! How many "I"s can I put in one post ..
well, it is about me, huh?
Lorene
PS: Is there a time or product pre-order limit?

well, you're picking a difficult model as your first ecig, just my 2 cents. however, this is aimed to be a very sturdy model, and one that won't give you as much hassle as the "normal" type ecigs.

the batteries are rechargeable, but not something you can "buy anywhere." at least you can't walk into walmart and buy them, you'll have to order them from battery shops online. you're also going to need spare atomizers for whichever model you choose, the 801 or the 901. plus, you'll need cartridges for the juice, and you'll need the juice itself.

your best bet is to start in the new users forums, as all your questions will most likely be answered there.

 

[GrimmGreen]

Get it right Green! Wonder if Grimm's got a pic of one of those?

Lu

HAH! , i searched for crap pipe on google and this was all i got... and i REALLY looks nothing like the prodigy

 

[rinkusu]

Ordered:
# 1 of : Pen DSE801 Atomizer - Platinum
# 1 of : The Prodigy V1 Base - Penstyle

Can't wait for the home-grown atomizers to become available. Some of the ones from China are not entirely dependable. They either die outright or have that initial horrid metallic taste you have to boil / burn out.

 

[dumwaldo]

Crack pipe...

not a crack pipe...

learn the friggin difference

I agree it looks nothing like a crack pipe. But uhhhh....

Seriously, It is a disappointment to find Steve is as greedy as all the other modders. I was willing to pay $150 for one of these and a manual passthrough but somehow that was not enough money. I ordered a Janty Stick instead.

DW

 

[Parallx]

"Seriously, It is a disappointment to find Steve is as greedy as all the other modders. I was willing to pay $150 for one of these and a manual passthrough but somehow that was not enough money. I ordered a Janty Stick instead."

I searched this forum high and low, and it seems we're in the minority in thinking this way. I totally agree, that for what it is, and how simple of a product that it is, that it is insanely overpriced. I won't call him greedy, since it's my decision on buying one and the price is simply too high for me.

This is simply my motivation to build a mod myself I suppose, but I was really hoping that the price would be realistic. I don't fault Steve for it, as business is business, but it certainly leaves a nice big hole in the lower priced mod market. I've wired up several mods on my proto board and they're all the most simple of circuits (seriously, one resistor if you want an LED.)

It's not hard to see what Steve is doing here. The market for all the little retailers reselling wholesale Chinese parts and juice is soon to be a ghost town. Steve has found a way to continue his business and is forging his own path, and is an amazing example of American innovation. He'll do just fine without my purchase I imagine. If the price goes down (a lot) after a recoup of the marketing and R&D costs of the initial run, I'll certainly reconsider.

 

[Walrus]

I ordered a Janty Stick instead.

DW

So for about $20 less, you got about 1/4 the battery capacity and 1/10 the versatility. Enjoy!

 

[dumwaldo]

So for about $20 less, you got about 1/4 the battery capacity and 1/10 the versatility. Enjoy!

The janty stick was $70, the prodigy is $140.

The janty stick functions as a portable PV or a usb passthrough, the Prodigy lacks the capability to function as a passthrough.


You are seriously deluded with that comment. Neither part of it is accurate.

DW

 

[Walrus]

The janty stick was $70, the prodigy is $140.

The janty stick functions as a portable PV or a usb passthrough, the Prodigy lacks the capability to function as a passthrough.


You are seriously deluded with that comment. Neither part of it is accurate.

DW

Actually, I'm not. The Janty Stick was $129 until very recently. The new price just went into effect. And you're right... the Prodigy doesn't act as a passthrough because it doesn't have to... the batteries last up to 6 times longer than the one in the Janty Stick. The stick uses at best 500mAh batteries... the same ones that are in the e-cigar, which I have. The Prodigy can use up to 3000mAh batteries. The Janty Stick can only use 801 atomizers. The Prodigy at launch will have adapters for both 901 and 801, with plans for the various available models in the future.

The Janty Stick uses one type of battery, and one type of atomizer. The Prodigy uses 3 different battery configurations, and many types of atomizer. I can't bash the new price of the Janty, because it's more in line with what it's worth... but it's original $129 price tag was ridiculous for an 801 with a passthrough.

And you know... when you have to resort to name calling, you've already lost the debate.

 

[riddle80]

Plus that's for the whole kit. I think it's more a than reasonable price. He's not getting these for cheap like the kits from China, he's getting them made here and paying for American wages. I'm sure the profit margin isn't as large as you're making it out to be. Once demand goes up and he's able to produce more cost will go down. I'd gladly pay that amount for a quality made battery alone considering how much I'd be saving in these cheap ones that need replacing once a month!

 

[dumwaldo]

And you know... when you have to resort to name calling, you've already lost the debate.

I agree with that 100% and that is the exact reason I will not engage wv2win anymore but I do not think I called you any names?

having the ability to use two different models of atomizer is not versatility. Both variety of atomizer do the same thing. The ability to be used stand alone or as a USB pass through is versatility as it allows different ways to use the device.

The Janty Stick uses one type of battery, and one type of atomizer. The Prodigy uses 3 different battery configurations, and many types of atomizer. I can't bash the new price of the Janty, because it's more in line with what it's worth... but it's original $129 price tag was ridiculous for an 801 with a passthrough.

I agree and I think it is even more outrageous what the mods are going for. You wouldnt be applying a double standard would you? I mean you would need some kind of coupon code to get the cost of the current OTHER mods down to the old price point of the stick.

 

[Gotcoffee]

Made in the USA. Thank you, not to often you hear that anymore. I hope others will follow. Help our economy.

 

[Walrus]

I agree with that 100% and that is the exact reason I will not engage wv2win anymore but I do not think I called you any names?

having the ability to use two different models of atomizer is not versatility. Both variety of atomizer do the same thing. The ability to be used stand alone or as a USB pass through is versatility as it allows different ways to use the device.


I agree and I think it is even more outrageous what the mods are going for. You wouldnt be applying a double standard would you? I mean you would need some kind of coupon code to get the cost of the current OTHER mods down to the old price point of the stick.

Funny... I thought being called 'delusional' because I have a difference of opinion fell into the category of name calling. I guess that's just another difference of opinion.

I think I can rationally state, and I think most people would agree, that if you think there is no difference in an 801 and 901 atomizer that your experience is too limited to even be speaking on the matter. They are like night and day. And having the ability to change what atomizer you are using as well as what type of battery you are using is the very definition of versatility. Adding a USB pass-through to a one-trick pony is a convenience at best... and a realist would point out that it's just making up for using a smaller capacity battery in the first place. You seem to be missing the point that when you have a battery that will last days without needing to be changed, that the usb-passthrough is not even needed.

Your definition of 'different ways to use the device' is plugged in or not plugged in. Mine is having three battery configurations and being able to use every atomizer on the market. Don't underestimate the importance of the latter when you want/need an 801 atomizer, and the only thing you can find in stock is a 901, or 510.

I wouldn't expect a coupon code on the first day of launch. I personally think that the options presented in the Prodigy are worth the expense. You obviously do not, as is your right. But I also don't think you have the experience (based on your statements) to make an informed decision.

You are thinking short term, not long term.

 

[lmcc]

well, you're picking a difficult model as your first ecig, just my 2 cents. however, this is aimed to be a very sturdy model, and one that won't give you as much hassle as the "normal" type ecigs.

the batteries are rechargeable, but not something you can "buy anywhere." at least you can't walk into walmart and buy them, you'll have to order them from battery shops online. you're also going to need spare atomizers for whichever model you choose, the 801 or the 901. plus, you'll need cartridges for the juice, and you'll need the juice itself.

your best bet is to start in the new users forums, as all your questions will most likely be answered there.

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Thank you so much Flitzanu,
You have been a BIG HELP.
You are right, I should have posted in the new users forums.
Sincere thanks.

 

[bizzyb0t]

Wow, blind faith ITT.

Notice my questions didn't get answered?

I'll repost just in case they were missed...


Hey Steve,

Is this device even patented? I've searched for a patent for this device online, and couldn't find one. Usually, manufactured devices made here in the USA are covered under some sort of patent. Someone could easily reverse engineer the device and mass produce it in China, those fabrication plants there can retool in a manner of days. Surely you'd want to patent the Prodigy so that it can't be legally copied?

Is the entire Prodigy actually crafted here in the USA? If so, is there anyway to get a few pictures of the manufacturing plant? How about a photo of the actual device with some smiling Americans on the factory floor? On your site, it says all parts were tested here in the USA, yet no real photos, not even on your site? If not all of it is actually fabricated here in the USA, how much of it is manufactured and tooled in China?

Being as this is the very first "USA Made" device, I'd think you guys would be eager to show it off.

I may sound skeptical, but that is because I am. At that hefty a price I'd think there would be a few credibility boosters in your marketing plan.

Will it say "Proudly Made in the USA" right on the device like most American Made products?

One final question, when is the LED flashlight top coming out for it? Seems it'd be pretty easy to make that an accessory.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

bizzy,

If you read my answer to your Patent question in another earlier thread, you would see how I answered it

As far as taking pictures ... Sure, I don't mind taking some As I stated, it is 100% hand crafted and made in the United States of America.

Its 1 thing to show it off, but I get tired of seeing thread after thread or vid after vid of the same damn product. Thus, I tried to keep everything centrally located within the release thread and the vid thread I just made.

No, it won't say "Proudly Made in the USA" on the device, but I was going to put a nice sticker on the shipping box haha

Flashlight mod tip was actually already made for it An easy way to test to make sure the end is hott on each unit so we don't have to take a meter or atomizer to it