Iatty

[atavanhalen]

I need 1 week to finish the production, 3 days to shine them, 1 week to assemble them. The bad thing is that I have to make the resistance too inside it so I dont really know vanalen because thats the most dificult part.

so with this timeline and if you decide to send unassembled with no coil installed then my wife just might be able to buy the iatty for my birthday! June 28th is my hope.

 

[atavanhalen]

The only thing I would say against shipping the iAtty unassembled is that if people get it wrong will there be slews of bad reviews of Imeo's product? I'm all for getting the iAtty out quicker and easing the burden on Imeo but wouldn't want to see the GG image tarnished by poor user builds.

I understand what your saying and I can see why you would say it but I think as long as the resellers have a large disclaimer stating that this is a advanced user device that will take quite some time to master then I think that the bad reviews will be limited and the good reviews will far outweigh the bad. I think if most people like it then it will be pointed out that the reviewer that gave it a bad review had given up to quickly. And dont forget that another option is too send some with and some without, we shall see what Imeo decides.

 

[buGG]

along with it being 9 parts and 3 o-rings, these are a few of the notable iAtty characteristics that might be helpful for users to see pre-assembled, up close, and in properly working condition, before attempting to build or rebuild it themselves:

no soldering
ability to change the wick without changing wire
the wick comes in touch with wire by only 1/3 of it surface so it stays in good condition longer
change wire or wick without tools
put any size of resistance
it doesnt get clogged
very good vape in any angle
it can't be shorted in any way
dripping applicable
you can put the exact resistance you want
no leaks
easy refill
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don't get me wrong, i don't think it's necessary that it be assembled prior to sale, but i do think it will alleviate much of the confusion, potential setbacks, and bad reviews. enough people have a hard enough time with the avs and ufs, and either complain or give up on the GG as it is; this is also sold as an advanced user device. videos are extremely helpful, but the best possible scenario is going to be for users to look at the wiki, check out the videos, read the manual if there is one, talk about it on the forum, but ALSO have a working example of what's going on and hopefully a better idea of what they'll need to replicate and/or tweak the next go round.

 

[casualuser]

I agree with this...I won't know if I can do it until I see what needs to be done...

 

[zuTma]

I don't know nothing about DIY attys and this is great opportunity to finally get familiar with wick, mesh, coil and stuff and maybe in fifty years i make my own atty and beat imeos iatty

 

[inquisitorj]

Bugg,

This is the one truly valid point that I tried to explain, but did it poorly, in my previous post. There is definitely an advantage to receiving the unit in ready to use working condition so you will have an example of what to replicate. Have a starting point that you tweak to your preferred style from there.

Ata's idea of sending some with and some without is a great idea. I personally just want to do it and learn it myself, but there are some people that would greatly benefit from getting a unit that is preassembled.

Honestly, I'll just be happy to get one. Whatever Imeo decides I will be fine with.

 

[ecfSim]

I agree with buGG and inquisitorj, although I think Imeo should factor in the time spent on assembly when settling on the price of the iAtty. Perhaps a few self assembly units could be included in the shipment and sold for a little less? Either way, I hope I manage to get one - I'm burning through atties at a rate of knots at the moment...

 

[Harley]

I "want" to wind my own coils,,, I know some people will have problems to start with, But it is a very simple process if you take your time, Plus there are many video's covering the proceedure. Maybe Imeo can do a detailed video for the folks that aren't familiar with the process....

Just my 2 cents,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Out....

 

[jwquantrell]

Hey Imeo, I am going to have to agree with most on this thread. I see no reason for you to have to assemble all of those Iattys. A tutorial video should be more than enough for the type of user that will be using this item.

Regards
Jim

 

[casualuser]

Here's an idea...perhaps Imeo sends the iatty unassembled to the distributors and the distributors can give you the option to receive it assembled at the regular price or unassembled at a small discount...

 

[kcblack3]

I still agree with the majority of the people on this thread...if you don't want to assemble your own atty, don't get it...eventually you will have to wind your own or pay $100 for another IAtty!

 

[Zoranth]

What and make the resellers assemble them? Not really a good idea to put the work onto them when you will have to learn how to do it anyways.

And the regular price would actually have to be higher to account for the resellers labor costs.

I would suggest to Imeo to take peorders for assembled Iatty's and ship the unassembled ones out as soon as possible. Those who want it assembled would then have to wait until he had those done and also pay a slightly higher cost for the labor.

Here's an idea...perhaps Imeo sends the iatty unassembled to the distributors and the distributors can give you the option to receive it assembled at the regular price or unassembled at a small discount...

 

[lorderos33]

I still agree with the majority of the people on this thread...if you don't want to assemble your own atty, don't get it...eventually you will have to wind your own or pay $100 for another IAtty!

Agreed.... Even if Imeo were to wrap the coils with 32ga kanthal A-1, the coil would last about 6 months but you'd still need to clean it regularly or it will start to taste bad and that will require re-doing the coil and wick unless you figured out how to wrap the coils to release the wick to allow removal and replacement of the wick without touching the coil.

Some skills will definitely need to be learned by some of the end users, but if they hang in there it will be well worth it and with a product like the iAtty, the sooner those skills are learned, the better.

 

[AldoApache]

+1 !
Fkc !! I must write something else or it won't let me post!

 

[buGG]

...unless you figured out how to wrap the coils to release the wick to allow removal and replacement of the wick without touching the coil.

this is what imeo has done and we're supposed to be able to determine exact resistances as well. makes no difference to me whether they come preassembled or not, but i think some of you guys might be missing the point of having a ready to use, fully assembled, pre-determined resistance value DIY atomizer for everyone. eventually it'll be like tying a shoe lace, but knowing that that shoelace represents a certain value and it functions in a certain way within the system as a whole, puts you in a better position to replicate it or make the individually desired adjustments later if you see up close and in person how the shoelace was tied before you start over and try to tie it yourself. maybe it's no different from the other DIY atomizers out there. if this is the case, then it wouldn't be much to it, but from the features and characteristics imeo has mentioned, this seems to take the function and value of a DIY atomizer/ tank to a new level of precision. now even still, the ten or fifteen of us that post in here won't have a problem, and there will be 50 or so more that don't post in here but won't be deterred either. but at some point it makes sense to make even the most advanced user device as accessible as it can be to the myriad more users that hold an interest in it but might otherwise be put off by the wholesale assembly to achieve all the unique benefits of this device as imeo has laid out.

 

[atavanhalen]

I agree with you about people missing the point that you are getting at but I think that other people are missing the point of why some of us want it to come without the coil. The point of sending the iatty without a coil attached is (at least for me personally ) is that Imeo will not have to spend god knows how much time wrapping 500 coils slowing the production time by who knows how long, and that I personally learn much by doing rather than seeing. I could be wrong but I would think that a large percentage would be able to learn fairly quickly as long as there was a good how to video. Having a lower price is not my concern because I do not think the current price is unfair even if it comes unassembled. I would just rather learn on my own if its the difference of a few weeks. I think that all of this could be solved if Imeo used Zoranths suggestion of having a presale for the unassembled iatty and allowing us that would like it that way to get it more quickly and then have people that are not comfortable with that, to wait the extra time for Imeo to finish the necessary amount of coils. Here is my last point, I think a big reason that some people get turned of by gg is that a lot of the time it is tough to get any given gg device so a lot of people buy something else, so if there are people that are willing to save Imeo a nice chunk of time then it will be that much quicker for him to jump to the next production, in turn getting things on the shelves somewhat quicker. I hope that Imeo decides to compromise on the issue, that way at least some time will be saved and people that want them assembled can still have them that way but they just might have to wait a couple extra weeks. I am done but just want to say that sometimes in text only enviroments, words can come across in a way that they were not meant, so I just want to say that I am not trying to disrespect anyone and or fight, just a friendly debate.

edit; after re-reading my little disclaimer I realized that I sound like a freakin politician or something lol, but I think people get what I am saying.

 

[JonahNM]

If Imeo not having to make the coils means we get them sooner, I am all for it. Maybe some people need them pre made but I think most of us can do it our selves with just a video.

 

[Poppa D]

The iatty is not a device for the inept at duplicating the task of creating a coil, don't buy it if you aren't capable of said task.
It is much more important to have the materials necessary, and the resource for additional materials, as well as an illustration of the procedure.
One would think if they are considering such a purchase that they would have enough knowledge of them selves to determine if this is an appropriate item for them to use.

 

[bg2509]

Hmmm, there was one post in this thread I would agree with. To sell the Iatty "in pieces" is a risk for Imeo. I think the most of the people, that answered here are able to make the coil itself. But...there are a lot of other people, that will buy the Iatty. And if they could not see, that it will vape and they make a mistake with the coil, usually first they will not look at their own faults. They will say, I am not stupid, it must be a worse device (sorrry, my english ist not so good).

 

[Captain Morgan]

If Imeo not having to make the coils means we get them sooner, I am all for it. Maybe some people need them pre made but I think most of us can do it our selves with just a video.

+1 The sooner the better. I could work with one of Imeo's vids, no problem.