If you Gained Weight After Switching to Vaping, this Post Might Save Your life.

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niczgreat

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I quit smoking 5 years ago and since then I've ballooned in Weight. Now whether I would have ballooned anyway is anyone's guess.

I was 200lb in April 2009 when I quit smoking and on May 20 2014 I was 285lbs. My Ideal weight should be around 180Lbs. Today July 10 I am 255 Pounds, I've lost approximately 17 pounds per month since being diagnosed with the problem. This is without being Hungry. We'll go into this later.

My first piece of lifesaving advise is that if you are in a Exchange approved program you can have unlimited medical tests done for free once a year. I had over $1000.00 worth of tests done and it cost me nothing out of pocket. They have to be classified as preventative. The way it works is that all tests must be done on the same day and listed as preventative. So my suggestion, go to your Dr and have him order everything under the sun. Especially if you are over 40 years old.

Not to go too deeply into the tests but they showed that I'm experiencing Metabolic Syndrome.

The most important and concerning of all the tests that came back is one called the A1C test. It shows how much sugar is binding to your blood over a 2-3 month period. Mine came in at 6.8 which according to the medical establishment makes me solidly Diabetic [Diabetes 2]. My resting blood sugar was below 90. And my normal blood sugar 3 hours after eating a meal is around 100. So to have that kind of score means that I was averaging 170 as my blood sugar.

The cause of this is that at night I was snacking on sugary high carbohydrate foods going to sleep and while asleep my blood sugar was going through the roof. Also I was eating a lot of unhealthy foods that are high in Carbohydrates.

The Medical Establishments way of looking at it was to put me on Metforin aka GlucoPhage and other prescription drugs. The only problem with this is that Metforin will damage the heart [Arguable]. They want to treat the symptom and not the cause which in the end in many cases just makes people sicker.

My way of looking at it was to question. Am I really Diabetic, or am I showing a symptom which is Diabetes 2 because I'm overweight. I believe that if I lose the weight, change the type of foods I eat [Low Carb with little to no refined sugars] that I'll lose weight [Cause of Problem] and symptoms will go away.

Basically I fired my Dr and went to a ND or Naturopathic Doctor. Second piece of LifeSaving advise. Doctors and Pharmaceutical Companies don't make money from getting you better, they make money from keeping you sick. Your Typical AMA Doctor is in the dark ages where obesity, hormones, and Diabetes are concerned. Prescription Medicine should be your last resort after you've tried everything else.

Now I'd like to qualify the statement. AMA style Medicine has it's place, just not in my situation. I went out and bought a Glucose kit and test strips partially covered by insurance. I determined that on a low carbohydrate diet that my blood sugar is not spiking above 140 which means that on the LifeStyle change I've adapted, I'm in the safe zone. This showed me that it was safe to work on correcting my problem [Overweight]and the symptom [Diabetes 2] with Diet and not at the same time doing harm to myself. If your resting blood sugar were over 150 then that's a totally different story.

I did a lot of investigation and I'd suggest that everyone see this lecture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

This is a respected Endocrinologist and he believes and provides supporting evidence that Fructose which is 1/2 of refined sugar and 55% of High Fructose Corn Syrup is a poison. The one thing I don't agree with him about is that there are some new studies with rats that indicate that High Fructose Corn Syrup is worse than table sugar.

Moving on:
AMA Medical Establishment doesn't believe in low Carbohydrate Diets. So your average Dr won't know how to treat your Diabetes 2

I immediately began a low carbohydrate lifestyle. It's a lifestyle because Diets don't work. I cut my carbs to below 50 per day and have been eating as much and often as I'd like. Even having low Carb snacks in the middle of the night. The pounds keep coming off.

Second pieces of Life Saving Advice metabolic Syndrome, like getting Fat, High Blood Sugar, Diabetes 2, Athersclerosis ... in many individuals is caused by excessive Carbohydrate intake. Fat does not make you fat. Americans have cut there fat from 40% to 30% of the diet since the 70s and all the conditions blamed on eating Fat have continued to rise.

Low Fat foods is the biggest joke ever perpetrated on the gullible American public.
This is a BBC program
The Men Who made you fat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6nGlLUBkOQ

3rd Life Saving Advise, Finally, the only way to lose weight and keep it off is to begin a Low Carbohydrate LifeStyle. Especially cut out all refined Carbs, Table Sugar, and HFCS.
Read this book
http://www.amazon.com/Protein-Power...&qid=1405023428&sr=8-1&keywords=protein+power
or others like it.

I look forwards to 2 more months when I take my next A1c test and it shows that I am out of the Diabetic range. I should also mention that I had begun showing diabetic symptoms. My feet were swollen, my ankles had bruising and sores on them. Now after 1 month and 1/2 of a low carb diet these symptoms have gone away.

If anyone has more questions for me feel free to PM me.
 
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Tomz,
Wow......sounds like you have been doing your homework. I am interested in digging into this when I can, as my last 2 sets of blood work tend to show high ("pre-diabetic") sugar level (if I have the terminology right.) I was shocked! My weight is just slightly above my ideal, i THOUGHT I was eating "right", but, I do tend to lean on the high carb snacks, and I do have a sweet-tooth.

With the dramatic rise in obesity and diabetes, I have come to believe that our diet is doing tremendous harm to us! I think one of the problems is, that some of us, at least, BELIEVE we are eating right, but come to find out that we are NOT.
Good luck, and please keep us posted on your findings.
 

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Tomz,
Wow......sounds like you have been doing your homework. I am interested in digging into this when I can, as my last 2 sets of blood work tend to show high ("pre-diabetic") sugar level (if I have the terminology right.) I was shocked! My weight is just slightly above my ideal, i THOUGHT I was eating "right", but, I do tend to lean on the high carb snacks, and I do have a sweet-tooth.

With the dramatic rise in obesity and diabetes, I have come to believe that our diet is doing tremendous harm to us! I think one of the problems is, that some of us, at least, BELIEVE we are eating right, but come to find out that we are NOT.
Good luck, and please keep us posted on your findings.

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Until I began studying it, I never realized how poisonous my diet was.
It's the sugar and HFCS.
Cut those out and you'll be in good shape. If you are only a little overweight you don't need to go to the extreme
measures that I've needed to do.

You really have to watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

He credibly demonstrates that Fructose is poison.
1/2 of table sugar is Fructose and 55% of HFCS is Fructose.

The interesting part of it is when he goes into LDL an shows that there are two types of LDL.
Large Particle LDL and Small Particle LDL. Eating fat raises your Large Particle LDL.. Fructose turned into fat raises your Small Particle LDL Guess which one sticks to your arteries and blood vessels causes high blood pressure, Heart Disease etc...

You can be a little overweight but if that extra fat is generated by Fructose you could be a candidate for health issues.

Another scary thing, according to him, when we are full our body produces a hormone called Lectin that tells our mind we are full and not to eat anymore. Fructose inhibits the production of this hormone. So we have a nation that is never full and needs to keep eating. Amazoing stuff isn't it.?

You could call me a crackpot, but I think that the Food Industry knows exactly what they are doing, they are hooking us on High Carb Fast Food. In the words of my brother "Sugar" is crack.

This study at princeton is really interesting. It debunks the Corn Sugar Manufacturers claim that HFCS is the same as Table Sugar.
Princeton University - A sweet problem: Princeton researchers find that high-fructose corn syrup prompts considerably more weight gain

They give rats equivalent calories of Table Sugar and High Fructose Corn Syrup and the HFCS rats develope severe health issues.
 

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Wow wow wow, this is disturbing and insightful. I will be watching this thread and looking at all those links. I have never in my life had a weight issue, not until I quit smoking. It didn't start right away, the first year I lost weight. I am not sure when it started going back on, but now almost two years later I am the heaviest I have ever been and gaining. That night time eating? That's me alright. I never used to do that, ever.
The big question is, how the he'll did smoking keep this from happening? And why doesn't vaping?
Thanks for sharing, ur my hero.
 

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I worked a year on weight loss BEFORE I tried to quit. I was terrified of going up up up with no end in sight. I have lost 27 lbs, and working on the next 20 now. I am happy to say not a blip on the scale in the last seven days.
I have cut down on carbs, especially gluten products{they give you the big belly}, and am staying away from junk and processed foods.
Keep it going!:2cool:
 

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I've lost 52lbs since the middle of last November by carb cycling. Very low carbs one day, med to high carbs the next, and so on. I've not been hungry and I get a cheat day every week(I don't go too crazy though). It's basically a balancing act. If your body thinks it's starving, it will hold on to and store all of the fat that it can get. I have about 20 to 25 more to go. It's coming off slower, the more I lose.

I weighed 184lbs when I started vaping on March 31, 2011. I weighed 242lbs on November 15, 2013. I realized that I had to get my weight under control before it was too late. My blood sugar was slowly rising and I started having a hard time breathing at night while in bed. I made up my mind that I wasn't going to do any diet plan which resulted in me being hungry all of the time. That's just a setup for failure.
 

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I've lost 52lbs since the middle of last November by carb cycling. Very low carbs one day, med to high carbs the next, and so on. I've not been hungry and I get a cheat day every week(I don't go too crazy though). It's basically a balancing act. If your body thinks it's starving, it will hold on to and store all of the fat that it can get. I have about 20 to 25 more to go. It's coming off slower, the more I lose.

I weighed 184lbs when I started vaping on March 31, 2011. I weighed 242lbs on November 15, 2013. I realized that I had to get my weight under control before it was too late. My blood sugar was slowly rising and I started having a hard time breathing at night while in bed. I made up my mind that I wasn't going to do any diet plan which resulted in me being hungry all of the time. That's just a setup for failure.
I'm very impressed, so many are trying to fix the sugar issues with a pill. You have my respect for showing the discipline to change your lifestyle and deal with the problem.

Everyone is different. I look forward to the point when I will go off of the reduction phase and ease up a little. Maybe have some moderate cheat days. As an experiment the other day I ate 5 twinkies and tested my blood sugar every 1/2 hour. My Blood Sugar went up to 260. On the other hand I ate a mango, which is a very sweet fruit and my blood sugar only went up by 20 Points. From my experience with the Twinkies, I think that for the rest of my life I'm going to have to avoid refined sugars.

The cycling makes sense and since it worked for you then it's a good technique. If I hit a plateau, I'll probably have to try the cycling, a fast day, or a cheat day. The human body is fascinating in that what works for some doesn't work for others.
 

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I was recently diagnosed with diabetes 2. The two warning signs I had were excessive thirst (I would stand under the shower and guzzle water and still could not get my thirst satiated) and my urine became very musty (really weird) smelling. Went to the ER one night after I read up on diabetes 2 online and my symptoms were getting worse. Blood glucose level was at 560 (normal is around 120). The doctor was going to admit me to the hospital but after 4 hours, 5 liters of sodium chloride(?), and 5 units of insulin, they let me go home. My BGL had dropped to around 180. I was prescribed prescriptions for diabetes, my kidneys, and blood pressure. Anyway, I've dropped 20 lbs (low carb), no bread, sugar, or alcohol (that one hurt). Trying to lose another 20 lbs. Check my blood daily and keep it mostly between 125-135. If anyone out there has an inkling that you might have diabetes, PLEASE, get checked. I can be a very dangerous situation.....even deadly. Thanks for letting me preach a little.
 

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I was recently diagnosed with diabetes 2. The two warning signs I had were excessive thirst (I would stand under the shower and guzzle water and still could not get my thirst satiated) and my urine became very musty (really weird) smelling. Went to the ER one night after I read up on diabetes 2 online and my symptoms were getting worse. Blood glucose level was at 560 (normal is around 120). The doctor was going to admit me to the hospital but after 4 hours, 5 liters of sodium chloride(?), and 5 units of insulin, they let me go home. My BGL had dropped to around 180. I was prescribed prescriptions for diabetes, my kidneys, and blood pressure. Anyway, I've dropped 20 lbs (low carb), no bread, sugar, or alcohol (that one hurt). Trying to lose another 20 lbs. Check my blood daily and keep it mostly between 125-135. If anyone out there has an inkling that you might have diabetes, PLEASE, get checked. I can be a very dangerous situation.....even deadly. Thanks for letting me preach a little.
Congaman, I really appreciate you sharing your situation, the more people who share, the more this thread gains credibility. I was very serious when I titled it "If you Gained Weight After Switching to Vaping, this Post Might Save Your life."

Many don't realize that out of control Diabetes is a killer. It ends up attacking all your major Organs, your sight, your circulation, etc. They've estimated that unchecked it will reduce your lifespan by 15 years.

By the way, if you don't mind my asking a question.
Did your Medical Doctor recommend a Low Carb Diet or did you figure that one out by your own research.

I've found only 1 Doctor Affiliated with a Major Hospital who espouses a Atkins Diet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toLvGpk3HLE

Myself, I'm not really on Atkins just following the principles of Low Carb Diet and an amalgamation of many different Low Carb Diet Sources.

To me it's really Easy. Cut out refined Sugar of any sort, and nothing refined or white, like bread rice or potatos
 

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Hmm, this is very interesting. Weight loss is usually listed as a symptom of diabetes. It looks like the relationship is more complex than that; there are several things backing up your own personal observations.

A quick search turned up this tutorial on blood sugar testing at home:

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14046889.php

I think I might just do this. I'm not a big fan of these 20 extra pounds -- well, more like 40, but only 20 were gained after I quit smoking.

I'm with Lethalp. How does smoking suppress this, and why doesn't vaping?
 
tomzgreat - I think you might be very interested in reading a book called "Grain Brain". It's available on Amazon and is authored by a very knowledgeable man.

Here's the synopsis as written on Amazon:

Renowned neurologist David Perlmutter, MD, blows the lid off a topic that's been buried in medical literature for far too long: carbs are destroying your brain. And not just unhealthy carbs, but even healthy ones like whole grains can cause dementia, ADHD, anxiety, chronic headaches, depression, and much more. Dr. Perlmutter explains what happens when the brain encounters common ingredients in your daily bread and fruit bowls, why your brain thrives on fat and cholesterol, and how you can spur the growth of new brain cells at any age. He offers an in-depth look at how we can take control of our "smart genes" through specific dietary choices and lifestyle habits, demonstrating how to remedy our most feared maladies without drugs. With a revolutionary 4-week plan, GRAIN BRAIN teaches us how we can reprogram our genetic destiny for the better.

I'm thrilled that you've decided to dig deeper into how your diet affects your health. Keep your thirst for knowledge going!
 

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Glad you learned to eat better, Tom.

this is a real good book for diabetes and pre diabetes or just getting healthier or just losing weight. get the cookbook to go with. :)

Blood Sugar_017.jpg

I really like functional medical doctors and naturapaths.
 

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I don't thing fructose is poison though, at least I hope not as I eat a lot of fruit
Fruit is not empty sugar calories, it's comprised of nutrients and depending the fruit, pectin and other fibers. Refined Table Sugar and High Fructose Corn Syrups are the real killers especially when combined with Refined Carbohydrates.

As an experiment I ate a mango and recorded my blood sugar, it only spiked by 20 points, yet based on the sugar content I should have spiked much more. From some of the articles I've read, and my own experience, [Arguably] I suspect that fruit is recognized and assimilated by the body differently then HFSC and Refined Sugar, and processed carbohydrates.
 

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I've read him before and he's very credible. I read the kindle sample of the book and it's really good reading.
Very informative book.

tomzgreat - I think you might be very interested in reading a book called "Grain Brain". It's available on Amazon and is authored by a very knowledgeable man.

Here's the synopsis as written on Amazon:



I'm thrilled that you've decided to dig deeper into how your diet affects your health. Keep your thirst for knowledge going!
 
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