Oh, sorry, haven't been doing this long. l thought that people were referring to it as illegal in Canada when they said that.
I'm not Canadian, I just play one on TV, but....
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We talk to an other supplier and the picture have been taken from facebook, it's all coming down now.
Just to be clear. I wasn't taking up for the guy. I think you completely misread what I was saying based on your response, if I'm the one you were ROTFL at and not the guy this post is about. I was mocking him and saying that that is the impression he is trying to send to impressionable people who don't know any better. Also, I wasn't saying not to act against his illegal actions, just that he is not out to scare people by sharing this information as someone said earlier. It is to get the communities in which these vendors live involved. It is all about making money. Sorry to reiterate if my point was in fact clear the first time, just couldn't tell if your response was directed at me and I'm fairly new here so I definitely don't want people who I will be needing advice from thinking I was taking up for a D-bag who is clearly no friend to this community.
No worries it certainly wasn't directed at you, I understand your point there as well about trying to win this battle because of the children. I think the line between "vape propaganda" and "stalking" was crossed by the poster of NicFits.ca. I'm sorry if that comment felt directed at you because it certainly wasn't in the slightest
I mean c'mon, your username is John Wayne, no one messes with the duke,
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I understand your points, JW. Possibly it's what he started out trying to do. IMHO It just does't work. The site is not subtle or clever enough to achieve it.
As for the images or hate page as I call it. If it is an attempt to get the public involved it wouldn't work. It has such an air of hate that it offends. One thing most people in my community can't stand is public displays of hate. Nor is there civilian pestering. Publish a picture of a house like that here where interesting criminal activity or criminal lives and you get some drive bys and the odd gawker but nothing more. I know that from experience. LOL Not my house btw. If anything, I think the houses are to show us that the juices aren't being made in nice "clean" factories, like mapleleaf foods.
There are some great parallels here I could use to support my opinion but I am not allowed to discuss them here.
I think this is perhaps THE most important subject here. In my 2 years of vaping I have never once been stopped by a police officer (like it would matter anyway? lol) but instead I am stopped by the public in mass. Why is this you ask? It's because I have no fear, nothing to hide and know what it is I am doing and the legalities in play.
This shameless approach is indicative of one's intent, which is what a police officer is mostly concerned with. Since I am walking openly down the street, vaping away, the police will leave me alone and assume (correctly) that what I am doing is not illegal while the public does the exact opposite and questions me at every turn.
If you don't conceal the device, you don't look guilty, thus you are left alone by the right people.
I guarantee that if an officer saw someone hiding their device, looking around to see who might be seeing them and looking worried they might be "caught" that they would stop and question the person... Until they saw the device and told the person to go on their way.
We all have nothing to hide and we shouldn't back off because 1 weirdo with a vendetta and a webpage decided he didn't like something that is keeping us away from Death Sticks.
No worries John. We're glad to have you as part of the community, and I think we all understood that you're on our side.
His views aren't the issue; his criminal activity is. But lets address the views for a moment. As Kams Cats just pointed out while I was writing this post...generally speaking, the sort of mindless hate this guy displays in everything he writes just doesn't wash with Canadians. According to his original site, he thinks the Salvation Army is awesome...which would also explain why he seems to think homophobic intimations & slurs are real zingers. Doesn't wash with the average Canadian.
On top of that, remember...this creep is so far out there, with views that are so obviously indefensible & wrong...even the slowest of the slow would fail to be swayed by such. Case in point: his photographic 'evidence' of "kids" using e-cigs shows three adult men in their twenties at least, if not older - one with a beard & another with one growing in - vaping.
....Yeah. Those aren't kids, haha. Some old man might apply that term to anyone under the age of retirement. But those are not "kids."
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As for profiting at the expense of legitimate suppliers? Not an issue. He's never made money, which should come as no surprise. Would you have gone to some guy proposing cold-turkey "aromatherapy" as an alternative to smoking? To a guy who says caffeine is dangerous? (Yes...he said that. He's actually anti-caffeine as well. A relevant glimpse into the level of crazy we're dealing with.)
That obvious point aside...he's never done online sales. Not even in Calgary. His product of note? An ancient, crummy model from 2007. The lack of online sales, terrible product, baffling hatred of nicotine & obvious obsession with now-criminally stalking legitimate suppliers & vapers...negate his ability to do better business where he lives (let alone the rest of Canada). I should also add...his old site is really sorry-looking, too. "Poorly designed" is far too kind.
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It's as Noiz said above: this guy has been spouting his nonsense for a looong time, all over the place. That was one thing. Now, he has provably crossed the line into criminal harrassment, with his libelous new website & disturbing, criminal cyberstalking of suppliers & vapers all across Canada.
This is a disturbed mind. With premeditation, he is cyberstalking us - the intent of which is to intimidate, malign & victimize people. It's illegal. We won't stand for it.
His views aren't the issue; his criminal activity is. But lets address the views for a moment. As Kams Cats just pointed out while I was writing this post...generally speaking, the sort of mindless hate this guy displays in everything he writes just doesn't wash with Canadians. According to his original site, he thinks the Salvation Army is awesome...which would also explain why he seems to think homophobic intimations & slurs are real zingers. Doesn't wash with the average Canadian.
On top of that, remember...this creep is so far out there, with views that are so obviously indefensible & wrong...even the slowest of the slow would fail to be swayed by such. Case in point: his photographic 'evidence' of "kids" using e-cigs shows three adult men in their twenties at least, if not older - one with a beard & another with one growing in - vaping.
....Yeah. Those aren't kids, haha. Some old man might apply that term to anyone under the age of retirement. But those are not "kids."---
As for profiting at the expense of legitimate suppliers? Not an issue. He's never made money, which should come as no surprise. Would you have gone to some guy proposing cold-turkey "aromatherapy" as an alternative to smoking? To a guy who says caffeine is dangerous? (Yes...he said that. He's actually anti-caffeine as well. A relevant glimpse into the level of crazy we're dealing with.)
That obvious point aside...he's never done online sales. Not even in Calgary. His product of note? An ancient, crummy model from 2007. The lack of online sales, terrible product, baffling hatred of nicotine & obvious obsession with now-criminally stalking legitimate suppliers & vapers...negate his ability to do better business where he lives (let alone the rest of Canada). I should also add...his old site is really sorry-looking, too. "Poorly designed" is far too kind.
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It's as Noiz said above: this guy has been spouting his nonsense for a looong time, all over the place. That was one thing. Now, he has provably crossed the line into criminal harrassment, with his libelous new website & disturbing, criminal cyberstalking of suppliers & vapers all across Canada.
This is a disturbed mind. With premeditation, he is cyberstalking us - the intent of which is to intimidate, malign & victimize people. It's illegal. We won't stand for it.
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Except that does make him crazy, after a fashion. This is the very DSM-IV definition of a sociopath: One who is characterized by "...a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others..." Regardless of whether or not it's done to eliminate competition, his actions shows a willful lack of regard for the consequences with respect to his violation of other people's privacy and rights.
This may or may not be, but I don't think it is, at least, not entirely. Looking at his website it has all the earmarks of a nutter. Capitalization and bolding of keywords to emphasize the worst parts of the thing and the people he's crusading against, random pictures and clippings of people, their alleged residences and forum posts that either damn the accused or reinforce the damage the thing he's crusading against causes -- however specious and unverifiable, posting of very personal information, and the overweening belief that what he is doing is in the interest of the public good and how he is going about it is right and just. Every "source" -- where he even manages to drum any up, and regardless of their credibility -- just feeds his excessive confirmation bias.
He's a looney.
As looney as a one dollar coin I tell you. Kind of like the Black Knight from this film;
Fast forward to 2:28 and you'll see, King Arthur Agrees.
On a quick off-topic...congratulations Mindfield on being only two weeks away from a year smoke-free!
For the ECF mods - he has made a copy of at least part of the site that appears to be a pfishing site. I don't want to post it here to avoid issues so if one of the mods could PM me, I'll share the details there.
I had to do it... I know I shouldn't have - but my weaknesses and undying curiosity got the best of my morning. ...I went back to look at the site - actually "look" at it.
Didn't notice a tidbit of info on the home page - had to do a double take.... "nicotine causes the growth of extra veins". My bladder nearly gave way on that one (proof that stupid websites cause bladder problems???).
I wonder if Nicorette has been informed of this? Cigarette companies? Pesticide co's? Or even the University hospitals? What an amazing thing! Extra veins! Why if this were true - just think of all the coronary bypass surgeons who could simply feed their patients nicotine and get an extra vein for the surgery. It's like a wonder drug. Egads! Call the press - it's a miracle!
Another part that caught my attention - a group of pics from youtube - and the heading "men watching other men smoke". Yikes! I didn't know. Come on guys - don't do that! Turn your heads the other way. Close your eyes or something.....
And finally - yeah - had to look at "the houses" again. Just curiosity. I was actually most curious about the Sundre house - cause I don't know that there is a vendor in that town (not that it matters - or that anyone should have their privacy walked on like that - so apologies if the home belongs to anyone)... - But I've been to that town a few times in the summer (it's a nice touristy place set right up in the lower ranges of the Rockies with a river running through it and one of the best golf courses in western Canada).
...and there I saw the photo-shop botch. Weird too. The van in the driveway is partially detached from the engine and the front wheel. A van was photoshopped into the picture! And of course, I'm wondering what the point of that is supposed to be? (though I suppose it doesn't really matter when looking at the work of a disturbed mind - but it made me curious anyway).
And yeah - I even looked at the personal info of people I know. And laughed again. One has (according to this site) moved - taken up residence in a mall! ...well - that literally puts conveniences at your doorstep!
So I finished with all that. Made my necessary copies of the site - to make the necessary complaints. Now I really need to grab a java and grow some new veins....
Didn't notice a tidbit of info on the home page - had to do a double take.... "nicotine causes the growth of extra veins". My bladder nearly gave way on that one (proof that stupid websites cause bladder problems???).
I wonder if Nicorette has been informed of this? Cigarette companies? Pesticide co's? Or even the University hospitals? What an amazing thing! Extra veins! Why if this were true - just think of all the coronary bypass surgeons who could simply feed their patients nicotine and get an extra vein for the surgery. It's like a wonder drug. Egads! Call the press - it's a miracle!
Another part that caught my attention - a group of pics from youtube - and the heading "men watching other men smoke". Yikes! I didn't know. Come on guys - don't do that! Turn your heads the other way. Close your eyes or something.....
And finally - yeah - had to look at "the houses" again. Just curiosity. I was actually most curious about the Sundre house - cause I don't know that there is a vendor in that town (not that it matters - or that anyone should have their privacy walked on like that - so apologies if the home belongs to anyone)... - But I've been to that town a few times in the summer (it's a nice touristy place set right up in the lower ranges of the Rockies with a river running through it and one of the best golf courses in western Canada).
...and there I saw the photo-shop botch. Weird too. The van in the driveway is partially detached from the engine and the front wheel. A van was photoshopped into the picture! And of course, I'm wondering what the point of that is supposed to be? (though I suppose it doesn't really matter when looking at the work of a disturbed mind - but it made me curious anyway).
And yeah - I even looked at the personal info of people I know. And laughed again. One has (according to this site) moved - taken up residence in a mall! ...well - that literally puts conveniences at your doorstep!
So I finished with all that. Made my necessary copies of the site - to make the necessary complaints. Now I really need to grab a java and grow some new veins....
kanadiankat;3872571 Didn't notice a tidbit of info on the home page - had to do a double take.... "nicotine causes the growth of extra veins". My bladder nearly gave way on that one (proof that stupid websites cause bladder problems???). [/QUOTE said:New veins! WooHoo!!! Do you know what it's like to get blood taken from your wrist or your hand because your veins in your arms are crap? I hope my new veins grow down my arms. Please, pretty please.
A true nutter. I do feel bad for those he has targeted.
This was exactly my first thought upon looking at the link. I knew from then on anything else to follow was going to be bull----. The rambling and disjointed nature of the 2nd link really reminded me of some odd serial killer's wall or letter to the paper etc...Creepy at best, dangerous at worst.
XD Bahahaha! Well said Kat!
I think this is a breakthrough though, that stupid websites can indeed cause bladder-control issues... And of course pattern baldness, mostly in the pattern of your hands from ripping the hair out over such stupidity.
So bring on the new veins.. The more the merrier and more to transfer the nicotine I say.
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If you mean danespits she is well aware of what's happening and is working with the others mentioned on that site to have it all removed and that nutcase charged.
So don't worry.
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The Tucows registration is the domain name source only, the server for nitfit is hosted at Prolexic Technologies in NY state. View this link and click the server stats tab: NicFits.ca - Nic Fits
Any legal suit would involve the hosting company and not likely the domain registration company.
Any legal suit would involve the hosting company and not likely the domain registration company.
Monty Python has an answer for every situation.
On a quick off-topic...congratulations Mindfield on being only two weeks away from a year smoke-free!
Thank you! Technically it's not entirely true though. I had a relapse in the fall of last year that lasted about four months due to some bad juice that, at the time, I didn't know was bad. I thought I just couldn't vape because something in the juice disagreed with me. It took me those four months before I finally ran across someone, completely by chance and in the most unlikely of places, who shared the same symptoms the bad juice was causing, and who was vaping the same juice from the same vendor. After it clicked in my head, I went and ordered some new gear and more juice from a reputable vendor -- stronger stuff than I was vaping before, just to prove my point. Turns out I liked the stronger stuff much better, and it's worked amazingly for me. So, now I know, if a juice is causing me problems, it's that juice, not E-juice in general.
However, that counter is correct in that it's when I first started vaping. And -- perhaps here's the cool part about E-cigs in general -- even before I found that other guy with the bad E-juice problem, I started vaping part-time again early this year. Yes, in part with the bad juice. (And in the other part, some juice that just tasted awful but wasn't physically bad for me). I was just that desperate to kick the cigs again. I am just thankful I ran across that guy's post, for it allowed me to do just that.
That I am, and nope don't know SammySweetheart at all. Saskatchewan may be full of a small number of people, but I don't know everyone! lmao Heck I don't even know 398 of the 400 people in my town!
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