Initial review of the Mr. Puffer

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clyde2801

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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/69347-my-homemade-mini-juicebox-mrpuffer.html

Received preproduction review unit #1 from Mr. Puff yesterday morning after my review of Petercro's mini juice box.

Disclaimer-This unit was given to me in exchange for an honest, unbiased review. I have no obligation to send it back under any circumstances, and I don't have any sort of emotional or financial stake in making this review.

It's basically a long slender box mod that uses a 14500 3.7 v. battery, 510 atty connection, and a slender 3ml juice bottle. Tubing from the bottle goes through the outside of the box into the cartridge instead of into the atomizer. The cart has a kind of polyfill plug that's designed to hold a fair amount of juice without flooding the atty. It has a color changing led that lights up when the unit is on (and cuts off when it is actually being vaped) slider on and off switch, and a tiny extended vaping button.

After a couple of minor issues (namely how to open the mod-the back securely slides off downwards and determining that it came with a wonky 510 atty) the unit was ready to use.

Holy crap, this thing is TINY! It's roughly one third to one half the size of a pack of cigarettes. It has a very well made, well crafted, solid feel to it. I also thought the tube going from the bottle to the cart was going to give it kind of a rube goldberg feel and look, but so far, it's fine. The tube can detach from the cart if you're not careful, but it can easily be put back without any leaks or problems.

The rubberized, anti slip coating has started to peel, and I've been told that this will not be on the production model. I personally don't think it needs any coating at all. It doesn't effect how the unit handles or looks without it.

Again, the color changing LED lights up when the unit is on, and cuts off temporarily when it is actually being vaped. Mr. Puff explained it is a reminder to turn it off when it's not being used, and postulated that folks will either like it, or find it obnoxious. Sorry, Mr. Puff., the wife has already named it-the Geek Mini Lava Lamp. I'm used to units lighting up only when being vaped, but this is a conversation starter; it's like the Mr. Puffer is crying out for attention. If you're wanting to steath vape, this unit has the subtlety of a police car emergency flasher.

One of the things that intrigues me about the Mr. Puffer is the ability to further mod the cart. It should be easy to remove the polyfill plug and try any of the dozen or so 510 cart mods on the ECF boards. A minor uncertainty is replacement carts. I looks like it shouldn't be too hard to drill a hole in the side of a different 510 card and insert the tubing plug into it; but I'd bet that Mr. Puff will sell replacement carts for the model. It may not be necessary, since the only time you'd have to remove the plug from the atty is when you change it for another 510.

It vapes pretty much like a 510. It's better than a 510 on a freshly charged 510 battery, but not quite as good as a 510 on a freshly charged 18650 battery on my GGTS. It has decent vapor and throat hit on a 70/30 PG/VG mixture. It doesn't have the warm, wet ultra flavorful vape of the petercro box, or of-at least I've been told-the carlos JuiceBox.

However, it also doesn't have much of a learning curve. You should be vaping this successfully in under five minutes. Mr. Puff chose the ultra long 3 ml juice bottles, and they are extremely resilient and easy to use. You can also see the juice going from the bottle into the cart, which makes it easier to gauge how much you're pumping. The bottle/tubing is so well designed, a bottlecap is not included or necessary. If you somehow manage to flood it, you can simply remove the atty and blow it out from the battery end. This may be a better choice for a newbie or intermediate vapor than even the coveted Juice Box.

Again, this is an initial review; it's much too soon for a final verdict. But I'm really impressed with it so far. If it continues to hold to my daily use (abuse, whatever) and is reasonably priced, this may turn out to be the mod that many of us will soon be steering new vapers to, and buying ourselves-for at least a secondary unit.
 
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Good review Clyde.
Just curious, what's the capacity of that 14500. Is it something that will get you through the day? I get 2-3 days on a 3000mAh 18650, so I guess I'm a 1000-1200mAh a day vaper.

Also, with the filler in the cart, does it end up just soaking the filler and sucking back the rest? Just wondering how often you have to pump it. When I use my cart mod (in my sig), I can usually get 2-3 hours out of a cart, but I'm thinking if it's just the filler getting wet, you might only get 10-15 puffs between pumps. Is that about right?
 

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Good review Clyde.
Just curious, what's the capacity of that 14500. Is it something that will get you through the day? I get 2-3 days on a 3000mAh 18650, so I guess I'm a 1000-1200mAh a day vaper.

Also, with the filler in the cart, does it end up just soaking the filler and sucking back the rest? Just wondering how often you have to pump it. When I use my cart mod (in my sig), I can usually get 2-3 hours out of a cart, but I'm thinking if it's just the filler getting wet, you might only get 10-15 puffs between pumps. Is that about right?

900 mah. It's a most of the day batty for me, I'll either have to rob the wife's dse905 or buy a spare.

I'm not sure about the puffs specifically, (also have never counter the number of licks to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop) but I'd say about 20 puffs give or take.
 

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Nice Review.
Is it going to be for sale?

He has mentioned on the boards that it will, but no details have been announced. My impression is that he is still tinkering with some improvements. That is not final, and I am not authorized to speak for him.

Considering that there may be further improvements on the design, it's really tempting.
 
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Was showing the mr puffer to a female vaping protoge of mine in her car. Pulled the cart to show her the inside of it, and the polyfill plug popped out. Franticly I looked for it (it's a combination of a daycare center, file cabinet, and garbage container on wheels) before I realized: a) I was never going to find it, and b) I don't think I'd want to use it even if I could.

Desperately dug around in my vaping junk box in my car and found my 1st gen SFY plug...solid plug made from amazing mold putty made to fit in a 510 cart. Was able to use it, but didn't work as well as the polyfill plug.

Got home, and pulled a single piece of blue foam from another 510 cart mod. Being mindful of Mr. Puff's theory that blue foam could cause the atty to flood, I tried to compensate by using my chocolate marlboro blend: a thicker 45/55 mixture of thick chocolate VG juice and usa mix dekang. My theory was that a thicker mixture than the 30/70 recommended mix would offset the potential flooding problem.

Good results. I think it has better throat hit and taste than the polyfill, and is easier to draw on. As an added bonus, it seems to not need as many squeezes as the plug: I need to give it a slight squeeze every five or six puffs as opposed to a big, long hard squeeze every 13 to 15. It seems to be easier to get a consistent vape this way. It's already small learning curve may be flattened still further by this change. Again, a benefit of this simple mod to veteran vapers is the opportunity to try their favorite 510 cart mod in it.

My ggts is still more enjoyable in vaping flavor and throat hit, but the blue foam seems to have bridged the gap a good bit. I may just be comfortable enough to take the tiny box to work with me for an entire day and leave the other mods and accessories at home. This may turn out to be the holy grail-an affordable, portable, dependable and hassle free vaping device that may bring vaping to the still smoking masses. Maybe not the best vape or nicest mod, but something that a person can thoughtlessly throw in a shirt pocket or purse and use throughout the day. But the jury is still out so far, more evidence and testimony is needed.

Speaking of which, I've had a handful of people ask me today where they can get their hands on this. I make sure I take it out of their hands first before I tell them it is not for sale-yet.
 
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Yea I got a close up view of this little device (I work for MrPuff's dad on occasion) and I have to say I am very interested in trying one out for myself. As many know I am a GG person with a few AFSs and use them daily. This tiny little box mod/ juice delivery system is just the ticket to use standard atties. I wouldn't be much interested in the 3.7v model but the 6v would be right up my alley. I was much impressed with the construction and feel of this device.

Good review Clyde!
 
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Yea I got a close up view of this little device (I work for MrPuff's dad on occasion) and I have to say I am very interesting in trying one out for myself. As many know I am a GG person with a few AFSs and use them daily. This tiny little box mod/ juice delivery system is just the ticket to use standard atties. I wouldn't be much interested in the 3.7v model but the 6v would be right up my alley. I was much impressed with the construction and feel of this device.

Good review Clyde!

Awww, thanks. :oops:

I may PM you this weekend if necessary for some help with my AFS.
 

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As in the "Let's give it Mikey, he hates everything." Life cereal commercial. Except Mikey is Mindy, my wife. Despite buying her a dse905 and 510, she can't give the analogs, despite asthma and smoking induced sinus headaches. She's throwing the MrPuffer in her purse for a test run today.

If she likes it, it would be evidence in favor of my contention that this is the mod for new vapers and the still smoking masses.

If she really likes it, there's not gonna be a final review (at least from me) since I'm probably not gonna get it back. :rolleyes:

More on this trial as it develops.

The only thing left after this is an extended use review; to check back in a month to see if it continues to work as it has so far. So far, this sucker-or rather, puffer-looks promising.
 

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People of a certain age group may remember a Life cereal commercial. Two nine or ten year old boys were reading the nutritional facts off of a box of Life cereal and debating over whether they wanted to eat it. One of them decided to give the bowl of cereal to Mikey, a younger boy sitting at the table. "Let's give to to Mikey, he hates everything." After seeing Mikey try and enjoy the cereal, the older boys decide to try it themselves.

Mikey is Mindy, my spousal unit. An analog smoker with asthma, snoring and crippling sinus headaches, she hasn't met a PV that she has really liked. Some may call me finicky or fickle, but she can spot a weakness in a PV in under three minutes. With little time and even less patience, she doesn't tolerate much of a learning curve before she goes to the store and buys another pack of cigarettes. I've picked up and vaped mods in five minutes or less that she swore were broken. (Before you think I'm a brave man, I have to disclose that she never visits this forum; thank God.)

The Mikey test is a emmin-effin tough test. More established PVs have tried it and failed (I should know, I paid for them.). It is meant to simulate the experience a beginning or novice vaper will have with the device with little or no instruction.

In this remake of the Life cereal commercial, Mikey eats four or five bites out of the bowl, then quietly pushes it away before he goes into the cupboard and gets himself a pop-tart. But at least he doesn't throw the bowl and its contents across the room.

In other words, the Mr. Puffer is still in her purse, along with a pack of cigarettes. When asked about the MP, she replies that she does like the juicing action, but is not wild about the vape. "I either get little or no vapor, or a mouthful of juice." She does like the vape on my ggts with a 510 atty and freshly charged 18650 battery (which, I suspect, may be some vaping version of penile envy), but doesn't like having to redrip the cart.

I can get a decent vape on the MP, but prefer the ggts with the 18650 myself. I'm thinking the difference might be the 18650 battery which charges up to 4.2v; the difference is more pronounced using the 'high-drain' version of that battery. I'm wondering what the vape on a mr puff (big puff) would be like using a 18650 battery? Yes, it would have to lose a bit of that insanely small form factor, but most people would only need that one battery for an all day experience. I'll bring that up with mrpuff; I'd sacrifice some form factor for a lot more functionality. It may help flatten the learning curve on it a bit.

In the meanwhile, I'll work with Mikey-sorry, Mindy-to see if a little coaching can help her with the unit. Otherwise, she may have to get the GGTS; sort of a variation of "Wife gets the nice car, it's the law.".:cry:

In it's present form factor, it's not every body's cup of tea, but it is quite vapable to a moderate to veteran vaper with surprising proposed price points. Sorry, but I won't bring these up so as to not jeopardize Mr. Puff's registration here on the ECF.

Postlogue: After half an hour to forty five minutes of questioning, she finally admitted that she would like to look at "the one that Joel and Jerrae have". During that time the use of waterboarding was contemplated, but not actually used.

Knowing that Joel and Jerrae both have 801's, I will arrange for Jerrae to meet with Mindy and let her try her 801. In her words, the Mr. Puff was not 'pretty enough', it was too 'industrial looking'. She liked the vaping of my beloved ggts, but didn't like the aesthetics of it, either (Thank God!). More on the Mr. Puffer saga as it develops...
 

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Got some new juice today from strictly ejuice...kona coffee. Mindy perked up (no pun intended) and wanted me to put it in the mr puffer. I like the heck out of it, but she is gaga over it.

We'll see if she'll use the mr puffer 1 now. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
 
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Mindy started complaining about a juice leak this morning. Upon inspection, I could tell that the seal holding the tubing bracket into the cart had come loose, resulting in juice going all over the place.

Thankfully (for me) mr puff was inside of an eyeglass case, or mindy's purse would have been juiced as well.

Email sent to mr puff requesting repair instructions. Further testing suspended.
 
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