Introducing the NEW VISION NANO CLEAROMIZER - Excellent Performing 1ml slim Bottom Coil 1.8ohm 510 Clearomizer - Extremely easy, no invert, no syringe

[tvBilly]

You might want to try another clearo from GotVapes called the "Sapphire". I found it works better for me than the Nano. No leaking, ever (at least so far, and that includes clearo "disaster" events like flying with it fully loaded in my pocket). The draw on the Sapphire is a little more restricted than the Nano, and I much prefer the round mouthpiece on the Nano to the "duck bill" mouthpiece on the Sapphire, and the Nano does appear to be better constructed (whatever that means), but still, all in all, I don't order any more Nano's from GotVapes, but I do order a LOT of Sapphires. The Sapphires are also MUCH easier to fill, never seem to break, and (I know I mentioned it before, but it's worth repeating), never ever leak.

Oh, and to add to one of the things you mentioned, the Sapphires are very consistent, both from full to empty, and from clearo to clearo. Same throat hit, same draw (mostly), and same amount of vapor. One "trick" I figured out with the Sapphire is if it starts producing much less vapor than normal, and it's not empty and the battery is still fine, is to pop off the filling "plug" and put it back in. (Just remove it and then re-insert it). I suspect that occasionally there is a vacuum "lock" due to how well the Sapphire is sealed, and the fix is to just let the pressure equalize by popping the fill plug. And there's no (zero) gurgle at all.

If you do want to try the Sapphire clearos, make sure you get the ones from GotVapes. They all may start out in life as "Buddy Tech" clearos, but the ones I get from GotVapes work MUCH better than the generic chinese versions I've gotten from other places. Night and day better. One batch of generics leaked out the bottom as fast as I was putting juice in the top. Apparently GotVapes took the time and trouble to have Buddy Tech make them a "custom" version, with different length and thickness wicks (and who knows what else). In the six months I've been using GotVapes Sapphires, I've had a grand total of one burnout. I just toss the old one when it gets noticeably harder to draw, which in my case is about a month. I suppose I could get more life out of one if I bothered to clean it now and then. (I don't even know how to clean a Sapphire...).

Finally, once you get your clearo quest solved, if you're really interested in duplicating the smoking experience (without the burning part), you might want to check out bridgeless dripping atomizers. They're a real pain when you're on the go, but for sitting at home, or work if they allow e-cigs, they're hard to beat. I use a drip atty at home, and the Sapphires everywhere else.

 

[djimmy]

... And I'll thow out a few tidbits of info as well.

It is ok to refill at any point... I usually leave about 5mm of gap, not a full cm. A bottom coil vaporizer like a Nano requires just a bit of air space so it can develop the proper amount of back pressure to help it not leak or over wick ( which leads to gurgling ). The amount of air you leave isn't that critical... so just some is ok.

Many people will have a Nano last weeks or even months with regular cleaning... IF it is a real Nano made by Vision and not some knock off clone or worse yet a fake. Make certain you get your supplies from a known good reputable reseller ( such as GotVapes, which is the forum area you are posting in ) to help avoid the clones and fakes. In some cases, a clone may work as well or even better but you never know until you try them... a fake is almost always worse and is the cause of many good products getting a poor review. If a website gives no name brand and just calls it a Nano... I always suspect a clone or a fake and won't purchase from them unless I know better from some other source of info about the reseller. Even good brands can have failures happen... but the number you mentioned is unusual to say the least.

The pops and crackle you mention may be normal but depends on the e-liquid you are using. It is common on thicker e-liquids to have distilled water added to help thin the juice. When the water hits the coils, it can make a popping and crackling noise. Some flavorings are water based as well. Typically an 80PG/20VG e-liquid doesn't require added water... so I suspect if this is the caused, it's a water based flavoring that was added.

If the e-liquid is too thin or if it gets hot ( which also thins a juice )... that can account for the leaking to some extent. So try not to leave your Nano's or other vaporizers in warmer locations and especially not in a hot car.


Ok.. some terminology stuff so you are on the same page as everyone else.

A Nano isn't considered a tank... it's usually called a clearo ( short for clearomizer )

Smaller vaporizers, typically holding from .5ml to about 2ml of fluid, are usually referred as atty ( atomizer ), carto ( cartomizer, which is a fiber filled type ) and clearo ( like the Nano or the Stardust as a larger example ).

A tank is usually any type of a larger capacity vaporiser holding from 2ml on up... Some of these use special carto's or clearo's in them and some are all self contained.

There are some more advanced vaporizers also... a RBA is a rebuildable atomizer that usually has a tank, a RDA is a rebuildable dripping atomizer which only holds a few drops of e-liquid ( say 3-15 drops )

A small 510 battery isn't really a good place to start ( IMO )... The one you got only outputs 3.3v and can't provide enough amperage to power ( measured in wattage ) the coils to vaporize the e-liquid very well. This usually results in less vapor and flavor. This is actually one reason that something like the Nano was created but it's still working with low power in comparison to better PV's. To get better power, you have to go to a bigger battery and I strongly recommend something with variable voltage or wattage adjustments so you can tailor the vape to your own preferences more. It also isn't all about just the power to the coil, in fact, different e-liquids can only take so much heat before they taste burnt... so the answer isn't always just turning up the power... it's a combination of several factors that must be balanced to your own preference and the device you are using.

thanks for the info about filling and how the behaviour of liquid is. I am not using knock-offs otherwise i wouldn't dare "complain" about them. The reason to use 510 batteries is because i am a new user and i wanted something small to start with and to test how a refillable is (that's also why i mess up the terminology). By no means i am trying to replicate smoking/taste of smoking. What i am trying is, is to feed my need for nicotine and i like a bit of throat hit. If this is satisfactory i dont rule out that i get some "better" gear.

Meh I was thinking the nano was the top coil unit when I posted before. I had to go to the site and look before I remembered there was the bottom coil one with that name. I've been using tanks and other stuff for a long time now...
Dry burning a bottom coil clearo is a bit trickier because you cant see the coil unless you take the thing apart which prolly isn't a good idea if your new to them.
Since the nano is bottom coil you want to hold it bottom up when blowing the excess moisture out. Prolly even blow from the bottom end but I have found personally that with some other bottom coil devices (don't know about the nano since I don't have any) that blowing out from the bottom can sometimes leave a little moisture in the airtube (clinging to the sides of the tube) which can then travel back to the bottom after flipping it back over to use and it could gurgle some more. Often though you can just vape gently on it for a bit and this should go away. If you blow through it from the mouthpiece end while holding it with the bottom down (juice covering the holes) it will often make more juice come out and can make the problem worse.
Also make sure that you have the mouthpiece on securely - if any air can get in at all it can cause it to leak which will make it gurgle worse.

A few other thoughts - most of these devices need to be 'broken in' meaning that the performance of the clearo (or whatever device you are using) will generally get better after you use it for a bit.

Not all clearos / cartos (ect) work good for everybody. If its not quite doing it for ya try not to get frustrated. There are lots of other kinds of devices you can try. Some folks have to try them all and some of us are on a seeming never ending journey searching for the next best thing and the holy grail of vapeing

Don't give up and welcome to the wonderful journey of being free from stinkies

many thanks for the advice on cleaning the airtube, i will try to follow your advice in the future if i run into any problems

Just a couple of observations based on what you posted. If you just recently quit smoking it can take a while for your body to recover from the ciggys - specifically your taste buds. It is common to have days here and there where the vape just doesn't seem to have any taste to it. And for some ppl your milage may vary - Ive been vaping for 2 1/2 years (but had smoked for like 2ppd for 25) and lots of vape flavors still just don't taste 'right' to me. For example I had some orange dreamcicle stuff in a nova tank and to me it was ok but not what I had been expecting. I let my buddy vape on it a while (he used my whole setup so it wasn't like it was a different device or something) and said it was the best thing he ever tried and tasted just like a dreamcicle he remembered.

Washing with water is fine but if the water is still in the wick you can get the 'no vapor' effect until all the water is gone. I would suggest letting it completely dry out first or learning how to do a dry burn to dry it out before refilling. Dry burning is basically firing it in short bursts (so to not overheat it) until everything is nice and dry and you get a glowing coil. But read up on it first to help you minimize chances of poping the coil or damaging it.

Gurgling happens when there is moisture in the air shaft. Just gently blow it out into a paper towel or tissue should take care of that.

Hope this helps

What you describe could be very well my problem. My body/taste sensing to be inconsistent and thus getting different "results" with vaping the same liquid from the same device. I'll try to hold out longer with my current Nano.

 

[rdsok]

I wanted to cover the clone/fakes issue because many new users, whom do not have enough experience can't tell them from the real things... So it was just covering the bases since I strongly suspect you didn't buy from GotVapes which then makes it hard to judge if you did indeed get real Vision Nano's or some of the others I've seen out there that aren't. The give-away that you didn't purchase from GotVapes was simple, Joyetech had quit making their 510 sized units a while back so GV hasn't had any in some time.

Most of my post was more for informational purposes so I touched on the terminology a bit... it isn't important so much other than just so that yourself and others can discuss it without misunderstanding. The info about equipment itself was to give you info in the event that you do go forward with vaping... so you don't waste as much money on getting something that can improve the flavor and taste of the e-liquids you do choose to use later.

LOL... I guess someone should also warn users about another issue... I jokingly call it the "flashlight factor"... We may have all of the flashlights we need, but that doesn't stop us from wanting the next new cooling looking one. I find it funny how many ways I've justified getting another PV simply because I wanted something a bit different than I already had. So now, I have several backups for my backups even...

 

[djimmy]

I wanted to cover the clone/fakes issue because many new users, whom do not have enough experience can't tell them from the real things... So it was just covering the bases since I strongly suspect you didn't buy from GotVapes which then makes it hard to judge if you did indeed get real Vision Nano's or some of the others I've seen out there that aren't. The give-away that you didn't purchase from GotVapes was simple, Joyetech had quit making their 510 sized units a while back so GV hasn't had any in some time.

Most of my post was more for informational purposes so I touched on the terminology a bit... it isn't important so much other than just so that yourself and others can discuss it without misunderstanding. The info about equipment itself was to give you info in the event that you do go forward with vaping... so you don't waste as much money on getting something that can improve the flavor and taste of the e-liquids you do choose to use later.

LOL... I guess someone should also warn users about another issue... I jokingly call it the "flashlight factor"... We may have all of the flashlights we need, but that doesn't stop us from wanting the next new cooling looking one. I find it funny how many ways I've justified getting another PV simply because I wanted something a bit different than I already had. So now, I have several backups for my backups even...

I've got your points about fakes etc. and to be honest no i did not buy from Gotvapes. I got into this thread simply by googling 'vision nano leaking'. The reason i posted here was because this is the only thread with much response to this product. Honestly i could have started a thread in the Clearomizer section but as a newbie i made a mistake by posting my "rant" here

I had no idea this was a thread purposely started by a vendor so it's kind of my fault for not noticing it was a Gotvapes dedicated part of the forum. I will try to be more secure in the future and post in the right section of the forum.

I really appreciate all the tips and directions you all give me. I took nothing as an offence, just wanted to clarify a few things.

 

[rdsok]

Your certainly welcome to post here... all of us will try to help or provide you any info you may need. We are here to help anyone even if this is a Gotvape's forum area and the product wasn't purchased from there.

 

[2clicker]

so i am considering getting some of these. my only concern is what im reading about the mouthpiece slipping off? is this still a problem with these?

i also have read about the sapphires and looking at the phoenix bottom coil clearomizers. are these on par with the Nanos?

 

[badkolo]

so i am considering getting some of these. my only concern is what im reading about the mouthpiece slipping off? is this still a problem with these?

i also have read about the sapphires and looking at the phoenix bottom coil clearomizers. are these on par with the Nanos?

both of them are on par with the nanos but the phoenix usualy give you much more flavor, the sapphires i checked in the latest version we have do not have a mouth piece issues. all 3 you mentioned are great products to try, if you do use a phoenix , make sure to fill it upside down

 

[Countrypami]

so i am considering getting some of these. my only concern is what im reading about the mouthpiece slipping off? is this still a problem with these?

i also have read about the sapphires and looking at the phoenix bottom coil clearomizers. are these on par with the Nanos?

I absolutely love my Nano's... I order them all the time. My only complaint would be the tank could be larger.

 

[2clicker]

both of them are on par with the nanos but the phoenix usualy give you much more flavor, the sapphires i checked in the latest version we have do not have a mouth piece issues. all 3 you mentioned are great products to try, if you do use a phoenix , make sure to fill it upside down

right on. i suppose i will have to try the phoenix also.

I absolutely love my Nano's... I order them all the time. My only complaint would be the tank could be larger.

this is what i was hoping to hear. in fact the small tank size is why im so interested in them. i dont vape a lot so im looking for a low profile tank that delivers performance and flavor. and as leak free as can be. def gotta be a bottom coil.

 

[Zealous]

Will these be made for 808s too or only 510? Or will the t4 ever come in colors & be available in 1.8ohm (sorry I could not find a thread talking about the t4 or I would have asked there)?

 

[Countrypami]

I've never seen the Nano's in 808.

IDK about the T4

 

[ps02210]

Please see my recently posted question about the Nanos:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/465777-need-sanity-check-some-vision-nano-clearomizers.html

 

[rdsok]

Please see my recently posted question about the Nanos:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nity-check-some-vision-nano-clearomizers.html

Many of the issues reported on Nano's ( as well as many other products ) are caused by the clones and fakes that exist and many vendors claim they are Vision when in fact they are not... GotVapes ( the forum area you are posting in ) only carries the Vision brand with the only valid complaints I've seen ( other than personal opinion issues of course ) were some experienced the top thread pulling out in a handful of cases.

Of the one's I've gotten ( about 10 since I only use them on 510 auto stick mods and everything else has more capacity and is bigger for my other mods ) were within +-0.2 Ω of the rated 1.8 Ω. While the recommended PG/VG ratio is in the 80/20-70/30 range, I've used them with 30PG/70GV with no issues so far... still, a higher VG ratio is probably still not recommended since it is usually thick and doesn't wick as well ( which can result in a burnt taste aka "dry hit"

 

[Njt07]

Ordered my father in law a bunch of these along with a few auto batteries. He is in korea and when i was assigned back to the states he started smoking a PAD again since i wasn't around to fix his stuff. Sent him these, 10 bottles of juice and auto batteries now he is down to 3 cigs a day and loving these.

The only thing he has to do that might qualify as fiddly is after he fills one up for the first time, he has to cover the bottom of the clearo and take a couple of sharp drags to fill the atty section. After that its just refill and go till it tastes burnt then chuck it.

Highly recommended by me!

 

[Kyi]

I'm placing an order soon, getting an Aurora BFT (been dying to try one of these) and a couple of the Nanos. Can you dry burn the Nanos or replace the coils? My boyfriend wants to try switching to ecigs and most of my batteries and clearos/tanks are in girly colors so I'm ordering some stuff in more "manly" colors for him. BTW... I know this is off-topic but are mini bottles for the BFT going to be available?

 

[rdsok]

On the Nano's... some are rinsing and dry burning them... many are just tossing them and using a new one also... so it's a personal preference on that. I haven't heard of anyone rebuilding them, but I'd be surprised if someone hasn't at least tried it.

Look in the Aurora BFT thread for the other answers since it's already been answered there

 

[Kyi]

Just wanted to say I picked up one of these and wish I had bought more. I really like the Vision Nano, flavor comes through nice and I like the draw. You guys should offer a multi-pack in all of the colors for a discounted price.

 

[badkolo]

I'm placing an order soon, getting an Aurora BFT (been dying to try one of these) and a couple of the Nanos. Can you dry burn the Nanos or replace the coils? My boyfriend wants to try switching to ecigs and most of my batteries and clearos/tanks are in girly colors so I'm ordering some stuff in more "manly" colors for him. BTW... I know this is off-topic but are mini bottles for the BFT going to be available?

yes all extras for the aurora and more auarora are on their way soon plus we had them make a exclusive color just for gotvapes RED aurora

 

[Zealous]

These are displayed with a 510 battery in the pics at the start of this thread. So are they ok to USE with a 510 battery even though they're 1.8 ohm? I've always thought it wasn't a good idea to use LR with 510 batteries.

 

[badkolo]

they work great on a 510 stick , i do so all the time with my joytech 510. these are 1.8 but onm the 1.8 to 2.0 scale. they are fine for proper 510 sticks