IPV 35w and 50w box mods

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Replacing canceled orders is just a part of it , supposedly Elev8 has re applied the discount multiple times over the past month for a short time period and then they would up the price again . I know a few people who simply inquired to them directly asking them to honor the discount code and they agreed , apparently it pays to ask .

Thats not unlike asking for a better price on just about any item , although people rarely do since it can be awkward it does work most of the time according to Consumer Reports .


The difference in wholesale price of the ipv 's between ordering up to 50 or a 1000 is not that much , i checked and got quotes. Why does Elev8 always have issues and not other well known vendors , does anyone know for sure the amounts each vendor ordered , no.

They sure are laying 100% of the blame on the vendor though , not surprising , if they admit they are understaffed or lack a proficient processing system it would only get worse for them.
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Ya that's a good point, I noticed they were taking the code up and down, and just waited until it was up to order.
It would be interesting to know how many people have canceled their orders, and how this will effect future sales on their site. They certainly seem to have over estimated volume of sales they can handle, no other sites are having these "production delay" problems with P4Y are they?
 
I have been reading this thread since it started. I received my ipv V2 last week and love it. No problems here. As far as the shipping delays go, the vendor I purchsed from said P4Y was very strict about the pricing of this mod. He said they made him remove his coupon code so he was in compliance with the pricing. They also said for those vendors who did not they would be delaying shipping of the mods. Looking ahead and seeing that several vendors have mods In stock ready to ship leads me to believe that shipments to elev8 have been delayed for non compliance with the pricing guidelines. The vendor I choose received the mods last Monday and I received it last Wednesday. His shipment left china friday or saturday and he received it fast. I have all the tracking #'s if you want to see. Again this is just my opinion based on what I was told and looking at everything until this point.

My vendor also said that the first round of production units, which was 2000 had defective touch fire buttons which would not turn off and the mod would randomly shut off. Also in this thread I have seen people complaining how they can't turn of the touch sensor which leads me to believe my vendor was honest with us who pre ordered. I do not want to mention the vendor since I just signed up and I don't want anyone to think I am promoting or anything like that. I just wanted to pass on this info as it may be helpful to someone. Especially since people are starting to cancel their pre orders with elev8.
 
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^nice. If that's true..mad props to elev8vape. I won't ever know if that's true.

Just a friendly reminder for everyone that hasn't figured it out yet...if your atty leaks, it will leak into your ipv..so far the removable panel is the only real complaint I can find, but it hasn't been a week yet.
 

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Also the magma sits flush if you take out the 510 pin out completely.

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I have been reading this thread since it started. I received my IPV V2 last week and love it. No problems here. As far as the shipping delays go, the vendor I purchsed from said P4Y was very strict about the pricing of this mod. He said they made him remove his coupon code so he was in compliance with the pricing. They also said for those vendors who did not they would be delaying shipping of the mods. Looking ahead and seeing that several vendors have mods In stock ready to ship leads me to believe that shipments to elev8 have been delayed for non compliance with the pricing guidelines. The vendor I choose received the mods last Monday and I received it last Wednesday. His shipment left china friday or saturday and he received it fast. I have all the tracking #'s if you want to see. Again this is just my opinion based on what I was told and looking at everything until this point.

My vendor also said that the first round of production units, which was 2000 had defective touch fire buttons which would not turn off and the mod would randomly shut off. Also in this thread I have seen people complaining how they can't turn of the touch sensor which leads me to believe my vendor was honest with us who pre ordered. I do not want to mention the vendor since I just signed up and I don't want anyone to think I am promoting or anything like that. I just wanted to pass on this info as it may be helpful to someone. Especially since people are starting to cancel their pre orders with elev8.

I also spoke to my vender who confirmed this issue. I won't mention their name publicly (but they did a GREAT job with my order). Apparently elev8, fluidvapes, and vaportek got in trouble for selling the ipv2 for less than MSRP (which was set by pioneer4you at 109). They thought they could get around it with coupon codes and prerelease special pricing but were swamped with more preorders than they expected or could handle (due to low price). Then pioneer4you found out about this and limited their shipping quantity until they corrected the issue (or risk refusal for shipment of new units entirely). Most companies that are following the rules are now getting regular shipments and in turn are getting them out the door in a timely manner.

I really appreciate the vape community and honest vendors selling quality authentic products at fair prices. I hope those of you that got stuck in this uncomfortable position do get your box mod and hopefully soon. It is a great unit and worth the wait IMO.
Perhaps this is a learning experience about saving a few bucks when ordering when something new comes out. For me it was worth every dime to pay the full msrp. (correction, I actually paid 105 and got free shipping... but even THAT vendor is now at 109.)
 

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This problem was completely unforeseeable.... And there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone wanting to save some money in this day and age.

... Why do you think so many people leave their beautiful families on Thanksgiving to go stand in line for a small discount on some material object. CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME, America! - but we broke as hell!
 
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How is that not illegal price fixing?Competition discussing prices, with industry punishment if you don't fall in line is text book price fixing. Annoying. P4Y shouldn't have any influence on the price after they ship them, but if that's true that P4Y is punishing people who marked them down, it may take awhile seeing as how elev8 was still doing that a couple of days ago.
 

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Some vendors were spewing the same BS early on (which i think it is ) until someone on another site looked into it and found out that the (must sell for a certain price or else) was totally bogus .

I cannot say with certainty yet (but will find out) soon enough about this claim. Other vendors were posting on their site that unless you paid a certain price the warranty would be invalid. That turned out to be bogus as well and was an ill fated attempt at gouging the customer even more .

As far as the latest info, it appears P4U lets the vendor set pricing as they see fit since they have already been paid . Why would Elev8 continue to offer the discount code if that was just going to have the effect of postponing future shipments lol.

This is just another vendor created inaccuracy , it's an absolute given that vendors will always blame the manufacturer and never take the heat for their own failures. If you were a vendor , of course you would be saying the same things they are , they are simply protecting themselves knowing full well they can make up just about anything and people will believe it .

They are for the most part correct , very few would take the time or interest in checking if their claims are true , what your seeing is very predictable and guess what, you will see it continue on future pre orders from the same vendors.
 
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Some vendors were spewing the same BS early on (which i think it is ) until someone on another site looked into it and found out that the (must sell for a certain price or else) was totally bogus .

I cannot say with certainty yet (but will find out) soon enough about this claim. Other vendors were posting on their site that unless you paid a certain price the warranty would be invalid. That turned out to be bogus as well and was an ill fated attempt at gouging the customer even more .

As far as the latest info, it appears P4U lets the vendor set pricing as they see fit since they have already been paid . Why would Elev8 continue to offer the discount code if that was just going to have the effect of postponing future shipments lol.

This is just another vendor created inaccuracy , it's an absolute given that vendors will always blame the manufacturer and never take the heat for their own failures. If you were a vendor , of course you would be saying the same things they are , they are simply protecting themselves knowing full well they can make up just about anything and people will believe it .

They are for the most part correct , very few would take the time or interest in checking if their claims are true , what your seeing is very predictable and guess what, you will see it continue on future pre orders from the same vendors.

I dont know but I will say my vendor is not doing anymore pre orders for this mod. They are in stock and all the pre orders have shipped out already. Elev8 is still doing pre orders while others have them in stock. The same thing happened with the cana mods.

What also makes me believe this is that the cupon code keeps coming down as if p4y is looking and they are trying to sneek it in. The warranty thing was another story cause I inquired with p4y 2x's and got 2 different answers. How one vendor does the pre order and follows the pricing guidelines and all mods pre ordered are shipped and another does not and we have delays makes me wonder. For the sake of all the people waiting for their mod I hope I am wrong and shipping is not delayed. This info was also told to me when I placed my pre order on 6/26 but I did not want to say anything until I saw how everything played out.... as far as inaccuracy I think my vendor was spot on with everything he has told us during this pre order.

For me to pay full msrp which was only like $28 more is no big deal since I have my mod In hand and did not experience any issues with my pre order like others are. Matter of fact it went so good I am on a wait list for his next pre order for the 100 watt dual 18650 battery sigelie box mod. I dont want to start a dispute here. My intent was to make folks aware of what I heard so people can understand and maybe be a little more patient... that is all.... sorry if I made any one mad or anything like that. This forum has helped me alot over the passed year and I figured the least I could do is give back

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I dont know but I will say my vendor is not doing anymore pre orders for this mod. They are in stock and all the pre orders have shipped out already. Elev8 is still doing pre orders while others have them in stock. The same thing happened with the cana mods.

What also makes me believe this is that the cupon code keeps coming down as if p4y is looking and they are trying to sneek it in. The warranty thing was another story cause I inquired with p4y 2x's and got 2 different answers. How one vendor does the pre order and follows the pricing guidelines and all mods pre ordered are shipped and another does not and we have delays makes me wonder. For the sake of all the people waiting for their mod I hope I am wrong and shipping is not delayed. This info was also told to me when I placed my pre order on 6/26 but I did not want to say anything until I saw how everything played out.... as far as inaccuracy I think my vendor was spot on with everything he has told us during this pre order.

For me to pay full msrp which was only like $28 more is no big deal since I have my mod In hand and did not experience any issues with my pre order like others are. Matter of fact it went so good I am on a wait list for his next pre order for the 100 watt dual 18650 battery sigelie box mod. I dont want to start a dispute here. My intent was to make folks aware of what I heard so people can understand and maybe be a little more patient... that is all.... sorry if I made any one mad or anything like that. This forum has helped me alot over the passed year and I figured the least I could do is give back

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I don't think you made anyone mad. But if that was true, elev8 would've stopped offering the discount code. No reason to continue offering it if its going to prevent you from getting your shipment. Also, elev8 isn't only doing pre orders, they have shipped a lot of units already, just not enough.
Elev8 would have to be pretty naive if they thought they could take the coupon code up and down to avoid getting seen, considering its up for hours a day and a simple Google search would show multiple forums talking about them still offering the coupon code. Doesn't make much sense to me, I don't believe that's what's happening, but who knows? I've been wrong many times before
 

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I dont know but I will say my vendor is not doing anymore pre orders for this mod. They are in stock and all the pre orders have shipped out already. Elev8 is still doing pre orders while others have them in stock. The same thing happened with the cana mods.

What also makes me believe this is that the cupon code keeps coming down as if p4y is looking and they are trying to sneek it in. The warranty thing was another story cause I inquired with p4y 2x's and got 2 different answers. How one vendor does the pre order and follows the pricing guidelines and all mods pre ordered are shipped and another does not and we have delays makes me wonder. For the sake of all the people waiting for their mod I hope I am wrong and shipping is not delayed. This info was also told to me when I placed my pre order on 6/26 but I did not want to say anything until I saw how everything played out.... as far as inaccuracy I think my vendor was spot on with everything he has told us during this pre order.

For me to pay full msrp which was only like $28 more is no big deal since I have my mod In hand and did not experience any issues with my pre order like others are. Matter of fact it went so good I am on a wait list for his next pre order for the 100 watt dual 18650 battery sigelie box mod. I dont want to start a dispute here. My intent was to make folks aware of what I heard so people can understand and maybe be a little more patient... that is all.... sorry if I made any one mad or anything like that. This forum has helped me alot over the passed year and I figured the least I could do is give back

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Thanks for the info, I'm also looking for that Sigelei 100 watts, or for the IPV 100 watts, but everything seems that are not final products yet.

Where did you make the pre-order and do you have dimensions or any extra info?

Maybe I even cancel my pre-order on the IPV2 to get one of those. Just maybe.
 

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Has anyone with an order number on elev8 between 65XX-7XXX got any order updates? I'm 72xx and nothing yet, emailed them about shipping out a black one if available before the silver.

I have order #69xx. I actually emailed them. I'm always tempted to order from someone that has in stock for $30 more but figure since I have a couple of the DNA 30 clones, I can wait and save that money for juice.
 

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Thanks for the info, I'm also looking for that Sigelei 100 watts, or for the IPV 100 watts, but everything seems that are not final products yet.

Where did you make the pre-order and do you have dimensions or any extra info?

Maybe I even cancel my pre-order on the IPV2 to get one of those. Just maybe.

I have not pre ordered yet. I am on waiting list to pre order the sigelie. I was looking for the IPV V2 100 watt box but that wont release until maybe december which pre orders will start in mid november. The sigelie should launch much sooner, maybe in october. The sigelie with dual 18650 batteries is looking really nice since the IPV looks like only 1 18650. They both will have v3 of the sx330 chip....
 

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i got the info about the price setting issue (MSRP) from a trusted vendor. I think it is legit.
If you notice the prices everywhere (with a could exception) are now 109.00 (and up).
That is what pioneer4you wants them sold for. (The vendors get them based upon the bulk at much cheaper, of course.)

This is common. Some juice companies do the same... suicide bunny, halo, spacejam all have an MSRP and if they find out the vendor is selling cheaper they can of often do cut them off. This is fairly normal practice. Apple computers, Taylor guitars, Sony electronics, etc... it is just the way it works.

If elev8 IS doing this coupon/no coupon game still they will get caught and they will get cut off. A couple other vendors folks have been fussing about have already gotten in line.

Yep, the guy I ordered from is experiencing the same issues. His sales rep has gone dark, lol. P4Y are probably prioritizing shipments for vendors who are following the MSRP and didn't at one point offer pre-orders below it. I think it's weird that they would care about a third party's margins, but it is what it is.
 

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Seems to me like nobody has the black one in stock right now. I will hold on to my Elev8 pre-order for a little longer. I would expect that once I see most of the popular online vendors all having the black in stock again we should get a positive update from Elev8. If not then it may be time to cancel.
 

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If its true they are withholding shipments to elev8 because of coupon codes, what possible reason would elev8 have to try and sneakily keep using it? They aren't even trying to be sneaky, its on their site for hours a day. Also, why would P4Y care about the vendors profit margins?
If it not only hurts profit margins, but will stop them from getting shipments, I can't imagine they would continue doing it if it is common knowledge within the vendor community that doing do would cut their supply off. I'm going to email them and P4Y and ask, I will let you know what they say. I would be surprised if they would admit they are doing that, but it can't hurt to ask.
 

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If its true they are withholding shipments to elev8 because of coupon codes, what possible reason would elev8 have to try and sneakily keep using it? They aren't even trying to be sneaky, its on their site for hours a day. Also, why would P4Y care about the vendors profit margins?
If it not only hurts profit margins, but will stop them from getting shipments, I can't imagine they would continue doing it if it is common knowledge within the vendor community that doing do would cut their supply off. I'm going to email them and P4Y and ask, I will let you know what they say. I would be surprised if they would admit they are doing that, but it can't hurt to ask.
Might just be a form of protest; my vendor did the same with a coupon code that was effectively a middle finger to greenleaf. Not sure if it's a coincidence that both have yet to receive orders. Of course, it's just as likely that elev8 and my vendor happened to get in later than everyone else and P4Y are scrambling to fulfill orders, but it's fun to throw around theories while we wait.

E-mailing won't help. The answers you get will vary from one rep to another, they're the lowest link on the company chain...
 
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Might just be a form of protest; my vendor did the same with a coupon code that was effectively a middle finger to greenleaf. Not sure if it's a coincidence that both have yet to receive orders.

If so, good for them, if all the vendors did that P4Y wouldn't be able to set prices.
I know I won't get a straight answer, but it doesn't hurt to ask, and I asked if that isn't what's happening, why they are the only website not getting their shipment, it will be interesting to see what they say regardless of if its truthful.
 
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Seems to me like nobody has the black one in stock right now. I will hold on to my Elev8 pre-order for a little longer. I would expect that once I see most of the popular online vendors all having the black in stock again we should get a positive update from Elev8. If not then it may be time to cancel.

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If interested ... Graphite colored one ... is in stock at ... FreE-Cigs
 
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