Iqos contains tar?

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ScottP

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I didn't come up with the definition, I am just telling you. You can rave about how dumb it is all day long and I agree; but it doesn't change it.
I *think* the term for E-Cigs changed to "total aersolic matter" a year or so ago, but I am sure they used the misleading term "tar" for the hnb products.

If your group/company whatever you work for testing things, arbitrarily changed a definition, that doesn't make your definition right. If I arbitrarily defined a "dog" as a small animal that purred and meowed wouldn't mean I am right. Considering HNB products are made with actual tobacco it is highly possible that ACTUAL tar is present. I do not think they changed the definition of tar. It sounds more like your company did though. Any "aersolic matter" is never going be the accepted definition of "tar" to anyone outside of your company. Anyway, I'm done.
 

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If your group/company whatever you work for testing things, arbitrarily changed a definition, that doesn't make your definition right.
It's not their definition, it's a common definition of tobacco residue. It's what's even printed as "tar" on cigarette packs.

Yes it's misleading as it is not the usual definition of tar and can easily be confounded with it (and I'd say 99.9% of people don't know the difference).
 

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It's not their definition, it's a common definition of tobacco residue. It's what's even printed as "tar" on cigarette packs.

Yes it's misleading as it is not the usual definition of tar and can easily be confounded with it (and I'd say 99.9% of people don't know the difference).
Thank you.

I mean I could explain it a third time and maybe a fourth, but it seems pointless...
 
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untar

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I only know because in the late 80s/early 90s most cigarette packs in Germany had "Kondensat" (=condensate) printed on them and only later changed to "Teer" (=tar) which I thought was strange.
If you go by the technical definition of condensate and apply it to vapor then it's obvious that vapor will produce that, only it's very different from the one from tobacco smoke. Like many times before it's a false equivocation fallacy intentionally applied to make vaping look bad.

"Tar" is an overloaded word anyways, in Germany (and I believe many English speaking countries as well) people refer to what's on the road as "tar" which also isn't correct, tar was ditched long ago from the ingredients.
 

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It's the stuff that turned the filters on cigarettes brown when you smoked and your walls yellow. Everything I've seen seems to indicate that HnB products produce far less of this than combustibles.

Yep. It's amazing how walls had to be washed periodically in night clubs where 200 or more people smoked constantly. White walls yellowed over time. As a band member, we got to see the club with all the lights turned on during rehearsals, unlike the dark atmosphere the customers experienced. You could smell the cigarette film every time you walked into the room.
 
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You have to understand what the word "tar" means first.
Tar is EVERYTHING that comes out of the mouthpiece that is not water or nicotine. Thats the technical definition.
Thank you for pointing out how ridiculous and misleading that definition is.
 

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  • Filters are a con. Low tar cigarettes don’t have different filters they have paper treated with chemicals to burn faster and holes poked in the sides to let more air in.
  • They were invented to convince people they make smacking less dangerous, but they don’t. Most filters are made of fiberglass which actually makes it worse. Does some tar stick to the fiberglass? Sure enough to color it, but not enough to make a difference

In the case of the IQOS I also learned that the filter has another purpose: to mimic the sensation of having a cigarette in the lips. It has 3 stages in the filter and I was told one has the pupose to catch any solid particles that get into the aerosol. Disclaimer: I haven't tried it (nor I want to for the moment)
 
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