Wow, I really hate to say this, but...
Maybe if you try one, you will find out why so many people never think about them anymore.
I will gladly smoke a cigarette anytime, just to remind myself how horrible they are.
They have no power over me now.
Is vaping all you need?
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Maybe if you try one, you will find out why so many people never think about them anymore.
I will gladly smoke a cigarette anytime, just to remind myself how horrible they are.
They have no power over me now.
Originally posted by olderthandirt in the "Are we getting it" thread. This sums up the significance of this poll and why ecigs may not be the only way to freedom. Thanks, my friend 
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Plenty of folks can stop the use of inhaled combusted tobacco with the use of a PV.
There are more than enough that don't quite make it with that route that the following should be allowed consideration and merit.
Copied from a the blog entry http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...tml#comment788 by DVap
"On one of the threads, I divided smokers/vapers into four basic groups based on two theoretical criteria: 1) predisposition to nicotine addiction, and 2) predisposition to tobacco MAOI addiction.
Group 1: low predisposition to nicotine addiction, low predisposition to tobacco MAOI addiction.
Group 2: high predisposition to nicotine addiction, low predisposition to tobacco MAOI addiction.
Group 3: high predisposition to nicotine addiction, high predisposition to tobacco MAOI addiction.
Group 4: low predisposition to nicotine addiction, high predisposition to tobacco MAOI addiction.
Modeling on these these four groups:
We can expect group 1 to do fine vaping modest eliquid nicotine concentrations.
We can expect group 2 to do fine vaping higher eliquid nicotine concentrations.
We can expect group 3 to find vaping alone unsatisying. Supplementing vaping with some good strong Swedish snus, not that pale imitation Camel stuff, will likely calm these folks right down.
We can expect group 4 to find vaping alone unsatisfying. Supplementing vaping with some moderate strength Swedish snus, again not that pale imitation Camel stuff, should calm these folks right down."
I've tried a variety of atomizer/voltage/liquid combos since February of last year and I am firmly within Group 4.
And I'm smokeless!
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: Plenty of folks can stop the use of inhaled combusted tobacco with the use of a PV.
There are more than enough that don't quite make it with that route that the following should be allowed consideration and merit.
Copied from a the blog entry http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...tml#comment788 by DVap
"On one of the threads, I divided smokers/vapers into four basic groups based on two theoretical criteria: 1) predisposition to nicotine addiction, and 2) predisposition to tobacco MAOI addiction.
Group 1: low predisposition to nicotine addiction, low predisposition to tobacco MAOI addiction.
Group 2: high predisposition to nicotine addiction, low predisposition to tobacco MAOI addiction.
Group 3: high predisposition to nicotine addiction, high predisposition to tobacco MAOI addiction.
Group 4: low predisposition to nicotine addiction, high predisposition to tobacco MAOI addiction.
Modeling on these these four groups:
We can expect group 1 to do fine vaping modest eliquid nicotine concentrations.
We can expect group 2 to do fine vaping higher eliquid nicotine concentrations.
We can expect group 3 to find vaping alone unsatisying. Supplementing vaping with some good strong Swedish snus, not that pale imitation Camel stuff, will likely calm these folks right down.
We can expect group 4 to find vaping alone unsatisfying. Supplementing vaping with some moderate strength Swedish snus, again not that pale imitation Camel stuff, should calm these folks right down."
I've tried a variety of atomizer/voltage/liquid combos since February of last year and I am firmly within Group 4.
And I'm smokeless!
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If I could find the perfect Salem blend of ejuice that has the same throat hit and warmth I think I could finally kick the analogs, but that is what is holding me to them.
Something I thought, as well. Please see above post, I'm in group #3
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well. i vape all day, 24mg to 36 mg. so im type 2?.
could not go back to analog now because of smell and health.
the kid here smokes and i make him keep his bedroom door closed cuz of the smell on his clothes...
could not go back to analog now because of smell and health.
the kid here smokes and i make him keep his bedroom door closed cuz of the smell on his clothes...
As a true poll aficionado, I have to say, very nice job!
I am happy to have been able to choose the first option.
And I know without question that I will never go back to death sticks again.
They suck.
A bit of humbleness would be in order. I ran across this thread not long ago
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-feel-like-newb-again-please-help-me-out.html
That is someone who has been using a PV for a long time and slipped back into smoking.
An another one, read the second posting on this page. He had quit smoking for 6 months, hit a crises situation and went back to cigarettes. This is very much like what happens when someone quits smoking without an e-cig. They do fine until a crises happens and overnight their back on the smokes.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/58566-i-lost-my-novelty-2.html
The nicotine I get with snus is a good deal more robust and satisfying then the purified type found in e-liquid, and I haven't smoked for nearly 8 months. At the moment I have absolutely no desire to smoke again, but I'm not so arrogant to say I'll never slip back. I'm very happy with what I'm doing but just observing what can and does happen to other people certainly gives pause for thought.
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From some one new trying to figure it all out thanks for the poll and everyones input. It's helping me try to chart my path. Does anyone think it also has to do with peoples motivation for trying e-ciggerates ? I tried it to save money primarily I always loved smoking if it wasn't for the constant price increasing I doubt I'd try to quite.
I do have to say after 6 smoke free days the health, and smell benefits do play a part now. I wouldn't mind at all though smoking a fee analogs today if I could hold it to 3 or so. Problem I think is if I get a pack I'll end up going through them and then its right back to smoking full time
I do have to say after 6 smoke free days the health, and smell benefits do play a part now. I wouldn't mind at all though smoking a fee analogs today if I could hold it to 3 or so. Problem I think is if I get a pack I'll end up going through them and then its right back to smoking full time
I think motivation always plays a factor in everything from the way we eat to how long one is able to survive alone in the wilderness. The strength of the motivation dictates the level of success. Have said that, motivation isn't necessarily the key to staying off smokes. Expense, social factors, laws and health problems have given many folks the needed motivation. It worked for my dad after a triple by-pass for 3 years, but he died from heart failure after giving in to the nicotine call.
I don't think motivation has anything to do with it. I only tried to cut back, and that mainly for health reasons, but ended up analog-free after two days. OTOH, I know of quite a few very motivated people who curse every analog they still light.
That's what I was trying to point out, also. Maybe didn't come through too good? It's Saturday...............
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I want to be able to quit analogs, and I had hoped vaping would be the answer. But the one thing that analogs offer that e-cigs don't is consistency. I know when I light a smoke, I'll get smoke and satisfy my nicotine craving. When I vape, I might get vapor, I might not. The technology, when it works, is a perfect alternative. The problem is, it doesn't always work. And when is doesn't due to equipment failure (like a bad atomizer), if I don't have spare stuff, I am out of luck and it's off to buy analogs.
If there was one guaranteed, reliable, long-lasting, throat-hitting, all-day vaping machine, I'd buy it. I'd spend way more than the $50-$60 or so I've spent on each of the inconsistent electronic cigarettes I've purchased so far. And I would quit analogs for good.
If anyone knows of such a product, PLEASE tell me!
If there was one guaranteed, reliable, long-lasting, throat-hitting, all-day vaping machine, I'd buy it. I'd spend way more than the $50-$60 or so I've spent on each of the inconsistent electronic cigarettes I've purchased so far. And I would quit analogs for good.
If anyone knows of such a product, PLEASE tell me!
You clearly don't know me very well.
If I ever go back to cigarettes, which no longer hold ANY power over me, I will eat my hat.
Well, one of my hats, probably that stupid "fitted" one that only fits after I get a haircut.
Although setting all "arrogance" and "humbleness" considerations aside for the moment, perhaps I should clarify that I never needed the nicotine. I smoked less than a third of a pack per day for over 25 years, and could go all day without one and not think twice about it. I only smoked for the routine of it and the chance it afforded me to take small 10 minutes breaks from life every now and then. I always wanted to quit smoking, but never had any intention of doing so until I could find something that could take the place of what the cigarettes were giving me.
So yeah, I guess I'm not really in the same category as those whom you think need to have less assurance in their conviction that they will never go back to cigarettes again.
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That's what I was trying to point out, also. Maybe didn't come through too good? It's Saturday...............
No, your answer was just not up when I started to write mine. Just a case of great minds, thinking alike
I can't really say that I share that view. My 510 works perfectly well, and on the rare occasion something does not, such as a clogged atty (which really is rare) its a matter of minutes until it works again.
And remember those times your analogs got wet? Or you just hat wet fingers when you tried to pull them out of the pack? The times when you forgot a lighter and had to ask people? The times you ran out of analogs? They, like everything else, don't always work as intended, either.
You were a very light smoker and will likely do, and are doing, very well with e-cigs. E-cigs where made for you.
For many of us with a heavier long term addiction to smoking it's not quite such a smooth ride. It's not lack of conviction that's needed, just a bit of caution.
Katmar, when I read your post, I wondered if I wrote it. I had not quit analogs for quite as long as you. Only about 8-9 weeks. I was having signs of depression and anxiety until recently and even started smoking 1-2 cigarettes a day. That is not the solution that I want. I would give special thanks to Olderthandirt, Tropical Bob, Twisted, and a few others that gave me sound advice. A few days ago I got a can of camel snus to try since I had never used it before and wanted to try it before I ordered some of the swedish off of the internet. The snus is really doing the trick for me. Within 15 minutes of using the first snus, I felt better. I felt satisfied and felt my old level of alertness returning. I would definitely recommend trying it. You can get a sampler can of camel at a gas station for a couple dollars and if you don't like it, you won't be out much.
At least the local 7-11 carries ample supplies of analogs. Not so much with atomizers and batteries.
Someone asked me why I spent so much money on e-cig kits and not supplies. I just wanted to point out that I only bought two kits so far (an RN4081 and an L88b) and I stocked up on plenty of juice and a half dozen attys for each. I also bought a second set of L88b batteries.
Since November, I have had three battery failures, 5 atomizer failures (including one that was DOA), and a bad charger. I thought I was in good shape when I stocked up, but I guess I was mistaken.
I know there are people out there with different experiences, but my experience has kept me lighting up out of addiction, not preference. If I could pop down to my local 7-11, CVS, or gas station and pick up a new atomizer when I needed one, I would be 100% vaping.
Or, as I said before, if these darn things were more consistent and didn't require days (or weeks) to get supplies.
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That's why the serious vaper has +200ml of liquid, over 40 atomizers and a mod that uses off the shelf batteries.
Arrgh, 7-11 be damned!
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