It happened, bring on the antz - ECig Mod Explodes
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A lot of you seem to think the normal person should know these batteries can be dangerous.
But the normal person does not, and just wanting them to, or saying they should, is not going to change that.
I get the feeling a lot of you have levels of experience with equipment, electronics, and batteries...
Levels of experience that you think comes naturally, or people are born with.
The fact is that smart people also don't know these batteries can be dangerous.
But the normal person does not, and just wanting them to, or saying they should, is not going to change that.
I get the feeling a lot of you have levels of experience with equipment, electronics, and batteries...
Levels of experience that you think comes naturally, or people are born with.
The fact is that smart people also don't know these batteries can be dangerous.
When I first got into these PV`s, I got a ego with a ego head. I immediately read that the higher power rigs could be VERY dangerous. So I spent some time with the ego system, learned how to rebuild the coil, bought the appropriate safety equipment for the measly sum of about ten bucks, read up on batteries. It took me at least two months of daily learning until I felt confident building a .8 dripper. Then another month I stepped it down to .6, and only after doing this for 9 months am I at the point I feel OK with a .2, and even now I put those down when they get a little too warm, just because ITS SAFE! (LOL, I have a few to trade off with now)
Now, a couple of year ago there was story in the news here. Husband was selling his HIGHLY modified Corvette. Wife was showing it to a prospective buyer when she went to move it for the buyer. Well, she`d never had 600HP under her foot, and promptly drove it right into a tree killing herself. Just moving it she thought. Hubby should have never left the keys with her.
Iv gotten to be as old as I am because I value safety in everything I do. I have`nt lived in a cocoon, yet Iv not lived stupidly (OK, Maybe for about 25 years I did things that..........LOL).
At this point I try to share what Iv learned, but there are always those that`s could care less (like my kids:?(
It not my job to "save the world", try as I might, there is always some DA willing to learn on his own, and its best if I just get out of the way real quick like.
Now, a couple of year ago there was story in the news here. Husband was selling his HIGHLY modified Corvette. Wife was showing it to a prospective buyer when she went to move it for the buyer. Well, she`d never had 600HP under her foot, and promptly drove it right into a tree killing herself. Just moving it she thought. Hubby should have never left the keys with her.
Iv gotten to be as old as I am because I value safety in everything I do. I have`nt lived in a cocoon, yet Iv not lived stupidly (OK, Maybe for about 25 years I did things that..........LOL).
At this point I try to share what Iv learned, but there are always those that`s could care less (like my kids:?(
It not my job to "save the world", try as I might, there is always some DA willing to learn on his own, and its best if I just get out of the way real quick like.
It's sad I've slept with all my apvs under my pillow at some point and none have exploded yet. Maye the guy should have started with apvs instead of mechs.
When I wanted a mech mod, I Googled it to figure out what it was and how they worked. Then I Googled the power sources for them which lead me here and I learned a lot. Then I did the same for rebuilding all within three weeks of beginning vaping. Did I know everything? No. Did I know enough to keep it from blowing up in my face. Yes.
What is stopping anyone from getting into higher power devices from doing exactly that?
I'm sorry but sometimes you have to take your own protection into your hands not wait for some entity to protect you from yourself. Then again that's the world we live in where everyone wants an institution to protect them from themselves.
My issue is that pretty much everything with a battery can rupture and expel gasses or liquids, I've seen lead-acid car batteries give off some of the most violent explosions of any battery and every single car on the road has one under the hood, Millions upon millions of them that 90% of the population is within feet of on a daily basis. Personally my issue is when do we decide when a person has to be informed about a battery? At what point does one decide is it detriment to them and the others around them?
Dual batt mod with mismatched batteries? Huh? It's a 49...single battery tube mod...
"Swapped out a battery, went to throw a new battery on, I was getting ready to go to sleep, took one drag. As I was taking a second drag, it made a noise. Within a couple seconds of it making a noise, I pulled it away from my lips and that's when it exploded," Chris described.
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Why are there 2 batts in the pic? Did they add artifacts that were not related to the explosion?
Most likely. The other battery, an mxjo, was probably just around the debris so they took the picture with it.
Seriously you mean to tell me that the average person doesnt need special training to know that something referred to as a power source could have harmful effects to them if misused or malfunctions? We should hold classes. It's heresy I say!
I'm also aware of a lot of golf cart batteries that have burned down houses.
I guess that's up to each vendor to decide.
Whatever it takes to make sure they aren't liable would be my guess.
The legal system will sort it out if the ANTZ don't take care of it first.
Wow... Lot's of finger-pointing, assumptions, and IMO, ridiculous comparisons. One big difference between a PV exploding / catching on fire, and a phone / laptop doing the same..... The phone and laptop are NOT UNDER SCRUTINY, and are NOT CURRENTLY BECOMING DEMONIZED like vaping is... 
I have watched these types of incidents slowly rise for over 4 years now. Ultimately, someone will be held responsible. I can see a TV attorney commercial now..
"Have you ever tried to quit smoking by switching to electronic cigarettes, and the fad known as vaping?
Have you or a loved one ever suffered serious injury or bodily harm resulting from one of these known dangerous devices exploding, or bursting into flames?
If the answer is yes to any of these questions, please immediately call our team of personal injury specialists at: 1-800-KAA-BOOM. Join our ever-growing class-action lawsuit today!"
I have watched these types of incidents slowly rise for over 4 years now. Ultimately, someone will be held responsible. I can see a TV attorney commercial now..
"Have you ever tried to quit smoking by switching to electronic cigarettes, and the fad known as vaping?
Have you or a loved one ever suffered serious injury or bodily harm resulting from one of these known dangerous devices exploding, or bursting into flames?
If the answer is yes to any of these questions, please immediately call our team of personal injury specialists at: 1-800-KAA-BOOM. Join our ever-growing class-action lawsuit today!"
Wow... Lot's of finger-pointing, assumptions, and IMO, ridiculous comparisons. One big difference between a PV exploding / catching on fire, and a phone / laptop doing the same..... The phone and laptop are NOT UNDER SCRUTINY, and are NOT CURRENTLY BECOMING DEMONIZED like vaping is...
I have watched these types of incidents slowly rise for over 4 years now. Ultimately, someone will be held responsible. I can see a TV attorney commercial now..
"Have you ever tried to quit smoking by switching to electronic cigarettes, and the fad known as vaping?
Have you or a loved one ever suffered serious injury or bodily harm resulting from one of these known dangerous devices exploding, or bursting into flames?
If the answer is yes to any of these questions, please immediately call our team of personal injury specialists at: 1-800-KAA-BOOM. Join our ever-growing class-action lawsuit today!"
Going with that example what chance does a complaint stand in court against a car manufacturer, bad drug, or other scenario if it were the user misusing said product and not manufacturer defect. I wouldn't hold my breath for those commercials.
I really hope what results from this is a plethora of disclaimers that won't make products any more safe, or consumers any more informed, but will *protect vendors from lawsuits. Just like every other industry out there
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I'm going to have to also disagree with the Battery knowledge/Dumbass comments going on.
1) Batteries have been around a long time, including Lipo's. People have been safely using them for Years in devices Designed to Properly employ the batteries. People have come to expect Batteries to function safely.
2) Vaping has become, for whatever reason, a Fashion/Social activity by inexperienced purchasers with little to know knowledge. These people have no idea of the dangers or expectation of danger...............UNLESS WARNED.
I hate the reports as much as anyone on ECF, but the incident is not the product of Stupidity. It is the product of inexperience and lack of knowledge the dangers involved in working outside design perimeters.
*Note - No reason in the world an Atlantis or any other basic SubTank cannot be used on a 4-Nine as long as you understand setup and follow safe practices.
Likely the replacement Battery was longer - Button Top and the Mod went into Auto Fire from compressing the switch.
Was also likely a Lipo not imr
1) Batteries have been around a long time, including Lipo's. People have been safely using them for Years in devices Designed to Properly employ the batteries. People have come to expect Batteries to function safely.
2) Vaping has become, for whatever reason, a Fashion/Social activity by inexperienced purchasers with little to know knowledge. These people have no idea of the dangers or expectation of danger...............UNLESS WARNED.
I hate the reports as much as anyone on ECF, but the incident is not the product of Stupidity. It is the product of inexperience and lack of knowledge the dangers involved in working outside design perimeters.
*Note - No reason in the world an Atlantis or any other basic SubTank cannot be used on a 4-Nine as long as you understand setup and follow safe practices.
Likely the replacement Battery was longer - Button Top and the Mod went into Auto Fire from compressing the switch.
Was also likely a Lipo not imr
Can't even protect ourselves without help from vape/battery manufacturers and yet we expect government to stay out of our business to stay off cigarettes. Ridiculous. Let's just get big brother in on everything to make sure some poor soul who doesn't want to Google anything but goat videos keeping them safe from blowing their hand off safe while vaping. Smh.
I had a friend who went to a shop here in town (not one of the good ones) to buy his first setup to quit smoking having never vaped before. What did they send him home with? Why, a mech mod and an Atlantis tank, of course. Should he have done a little research before he went into the store? Totally. Should the person behind the counter have recommended that combination of device and tank to a brand new vaper? Hell to the no.
I guess it's possible that this vaping in bed guy bought his stuff online and has never ventured into a vape shop…but I don't think it's very likely. And if I owned a vape shop, and my livelihood depended on something that is currently being heavily scrutinized by a bunch of jerks who are jumping at every opportunity to over-regulate or outright ban it because it's supposedly so dangerous…I think it would be in my best interest to make sure that I and my employees were knowledgeable enough and conscientious enough to educate the customers about safe vaping practices.
Of course, that is me assuming that this guy is a new vaper who lacked information on safe vaping. It is also possible that he had bad equipment, a faulty battery, didn't take care of his batteries, didn't use the right kind of charger….etc etc. There are just too many unknown factors to really place the blame on anyone but the individual. I mean, if I had the money I could drive three miles down the street to a shop where they would happily sell me an AR-15. One would hope that if I let on that I was brand new to shooting they might show me how the thing works, or even recommend a different weapon that would require less skill to operate, but if I take it home and fool around with it and shoot myself in the foot because I didn't know what I was doing it would still be more my fault than the gun shop's fault regardless.
I guess it's possible that this vaping in bed guy bought his stuff online and has never ventured into a vape shop…but I don't think it's very likely. And if I owned a vape shop, and my livelihood depended on something that is currently being heavily scrutinized by a bunch of jerks who are jumping at every opportunity to over-regulate or outright ban it because it's supposedly so dangerous…I think it would be in my best interest to make sure that I and my employees were knowledgeable enough and conscientious enough to educate the customers about safe vaping practices.
Of course, that is me assuming that this guy is a new vaper who lacked information on safe vaping. It is also possible that he had bad equipment, a faulty battery, didn't take care of his batteries, didn't use the right kind of charger….etc etc. There are just too many unknown factors to really place the blame on anyone but the individual. I mean, if I had the money I could drive three miles down the street to a shop where they would happily sell me an AR-15. One would hope that if I let on that I was brand new to shooting they might show me how the thing works, or even recommend a different weapon that would require less skill to operate, but if I take it home and fool around with it and shoot myself in the foot because I didn't know what I was doing it would still be more my fault than the gun shop's fault regardless.
Simple answer:
Auto manufacturers documented explanation of intended use of said equipment as opposed to B&M handing someone a Tube/Battery/Atty/E-liquid with NO user information on any of the products.
We must accept, as much as I hate it, many many people today are almost clueless about most things in life. They continually rely on others(government) to maintain their comfortable life style at whatever expense.(FreeDUMB)
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