Johnson Creek Juice Turning Green!

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katink

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Has anyone with hulk syndrome juice gotten it in juice that is stored in a squeeze bottle (i.e. like either of cashes juices or janty juice) instead of a dropper+vial?
I believe that the dropper may be causing this. Not Johnsons Creek.

From the other thread:
I think you might very well be right Zach. It's one of the reasons I don't like bottles with those glass drippers in them (the other reason being loss of all your liquid if you bump against the opened bottle).
It's impossible to be totaly hygiënic with that glass tube going everywhere, then putting it back in the liquid again...

How about someone that got in the sample-pack just repackages them into plastic bottles with attached dropper before starting to use it... then start using it, and leaving it in a light place. Lets see if that goes green... it shouldn't if Zach is right.
 

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Katink, apparently there are reports of liquid turning green without even being opened. I thought i was on to something there but it looks like we are chasing a ghost, i don't see any correlation in any of the events if it does not have to do with the glass dropper bottle, except that most (all except one, a generic from the UK) hulk incident has been Johnsons Creek Smoke Juice.

Maybe it has to do with the rubber bulb attached to the dropper? Could liquid flow in there during shipping, come back into the jar with a residue from the manufacturing of the rubber bulb, that oxidises and turns the juice green?

There's no way i can prove that, if that's the case. I don't even think the guy that makes JC juice knows what the hell is going on and it's his juice. I actually have a JC VG sampler here, but no extra plastic to put it in (also i don't use it, i dont like JC juice flavors, personal preference, so it'd be hard to test it). Additionally there are no reports of totally wicked e-liquid, which is also sold in glass dropper bottles to my understanding, hulking out.

Stumped.

edit: well my final guess is, there is a flavoring in these juices that is oxidizing and turning them green. My guess is that it's harmless, but the weird green sludge looks different and i wouldn't smoke that. The green color looks like oxidation, the sludge looks like a contaminant (either industrial or biological). I think the green sludge is actually a combination of oxidation and a contaminant.
Does the green sludge smell any different than the other juices? Usually biological contaminants will create a distinct smell, like yeasty, or funky/fishy, or sulfurous.
 
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Hi Zach,

BettyRedondo from the UK started a thread about her Strawberry flavour from totally wicked e-liquid going green.

My 0mg wild cherry went green last night too. This is a JC flavour. I've been quite vigilant checking since this thread started so I know for a fact it was the normal colour when I started out. I'd used the 0mg to dilute some 24mg of the same flavour in a separate container. When I went to make another batch an hour or so later it had turned green. The 24mg was and still is the normal colour.

I experimented by dipping the same syringe into the Peach Cobbler before I went to bed last night but it remains good to go.

Betty's Thread...
generic juice also turning green

Am stumped too... )-:
 

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Hmmm...

Anyone checked out JC's homepage:

"Are you taking chances with with e-liquid from overseas?
Choose the purest and best-tasting smoke juice in the world
trusted by thousands of e-smokers everywhere!"

I honestly really like JC and what they stand for - I could live on their Tennessee Cured Liquid - but I think a statement like the one above comes at a really bad time, don't you??

Hopefully, Christian will figure out whats going on with this liquid soon...


Foxy
 

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I think it's the rubber in the dropper, but i have no way to prove it.
I am gonna go get my JC sampler. Several of the bottles haven't been touched. I am gonna get juice up inside the dropper, squirt it back in on two bottles, then have two bottles for control in the same environment.

Not exactly a scientific test, because the juice could have hit dropper during shipping, but certainly something i can try and get back to you guys.

edit: i will also do a small amount of janes liquid inside a johnsons creek dropper, as that has only touched plastic since the factory
 

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Just in case anyone wants to talk about freezing anymore Propylene Glycol based Heat-Transfer Fluids

Hmmmm... -48C at a 60% concentration with water.

Airline Hydraulic fluid freezes at around -60C -70C.

Thinking NOT.

I have 2 samples of JC Tenn cure, 1 PG, 1 VG in small plastic vials on the dash of my car. 1 day, no green. Stay tuned.
 

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Mine are in brown bottles and have gone green. I'm not sure I'm buying the current theories from JC!

JC is full of sh*t with their UV theory. Standard 6th grade earth science. UV doesn't pass through glass, tinted or not. Short wave UV radiation turns into long wave infrared (heat) radiation. IE you can't get a tan through your car windows, but it will get really warm in the car. It is more likely something to do with microorganisms such as molds using photosynthesis to grow and spread the green hulkness. I would keep my juice in a paper bag (doesn't allow light in), in the refridgerator. Also it seems PG is better at deterring microorganism growth
 

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Anyone gotten any update from JC on this lately? They had pledged to run this down and I know I won't order again if this doesn't get explained satisfactorily.

I won't be upset if they come clean and own up to the problem. Stuff happens, especially when starting out. Recall the liquid, learn from your mistakes and move on. Nobody said this stuff was 100% unicorn tears...

BTW... Unicorn tears are a MONSTER vape!
 

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Christian has stated that they waited for the return of a reported "suspect" bottle(s) from a client that was finallly received on Jan. 8th and have included it in there previous batch samples to a lab to be analyzed.

He suspects results will be available in the week of Jan. 22nd.

He has assured me that a copy of the report will be released to both myself (to post where I see fit to calm the alarmists) and to the general public.

That is the latest on this fiasco.

-Greg
 

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I'm late, but here's my experience:

I ordered a non-PG sampler between 7.Nov-10.Nov. The order arrived on the 13th, when I was at a conference, so they sat in the box in my living room until the 16th, when I opened them and danced like Snoopy. All bottles are amber and have been stored in the lowest drawer of a wooden computer desk since then. My computer room, for whatever reason, is one of the warmer rooms in the house, though I dare say it wouldn't be much higher than what most would call "room temperature" (love old houses, hate old heating ducts). Originally, I was extracting liquid with the syringe, but I eventually just used the dropper. Every bottle is the same color as the day I got them and I've used each at least one time.

I'm considering doing a little temperature test with one of the fuller bottles to see if I can *make* it turn green, though it seems like the lab results should be in soon. Perhaps everyone got part of one bad batch? I'd hate to think that JC is having any problems. I love the non-PG option :cry:
 

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So some batch's allegedy got messed up. (1) They are going to report on the problem once they get the lab results back, (2) they are refunding anyone that had a problem, (3) the problem affected a very very small percentage their product, (4) noone reported getting sick from the problem--Does anyone think China manufactures would be on it and make good if this happened to their e-liquid?? Do you think you could even get a hold of anyone in China to see what happened?? So I think we should give them a break here. I use their product all the time and have ten 30 ml bottles here with no problems so it appears to be an isolated incident. They are making good faith inquiry and they are responding. What else could we all ask for???????????
 
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Posted on another forum while this one was down:
I returned my 2 sample packs last week because they turned green and received the replacements this week. I plan on using one pack and leaving one in my desk drawer to see what happens. It doesn't seem like there is anything different. They are using the clear bottles with the droppers. Never did get a REAL reason why it turned green other than it might have froze.
 

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I posted this a week or so ago over on Trog's site:

**** Begin Post ****

I have what I believe to be new info:

I decanted some of my liquids into cobalt bottles I purchased on eBay for mixing flavors, etc. I used TW mint 36mg, PureSmoker "Pure" Mint 18mg, PureSmoker "Pure" 555 0mg, PureSmoker "Pure" Rum 18mg, PureSmoker "Pure" Cola 11mg, and VG (various mixes, etc).

I made 5 different mixtures, and they have been sitting in my desk drawer out of sunlight at room temp for about a month. ALL OF THEM ARE NOW GREEN.

The "source" bottles that I pulled from (stored identically) are still their normal color, so I feel confident that this is either bottle contamination (I never washed them before filling) or a reaction to the rubber stopper. I've now washed a new bottle and filled with the PS Mint, so we'll see how it fares.

This still doesn't answer any safety concerns, so I pitched all the green stuff...

FWIW, none of my JC non-PG bottles have turned.

**** End Post ****

After a week, the "washed" bottle is getting a slight green tinge as well. I did not use detergent, but rinsed it pretty thoroughly.

My non-PG sampler sized Peach Cobbler is now looking a bit green as well. The rest of the sampler is still OK, but I will expect them to turn if they are from the same batch.

I still vote bottle contamination, but I'm guesssing...
 
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