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TNT, can you tell where the juice is coming from? Could be a couple of things. Personally, I'd suction out the juice through the fill port, disassemble it completely and give it a good soapy bath and a rinse. Reassemble, taking special care to inspect ALL the orings, especially the one at the top of the chimney. Make sure nothing gets cross threaded. Dry burn, rewick and fill. Most leaks I find are due to orings off kilter, or pieces not quite screwed together right.
 

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Mine floods bad. Not when vaping but when I take it off, the bottom is covered in juice. Using 70PG/30VG. 30 guage with 8-9 wraps around a .069 diameter bit. Vape is fantastic. Wetness ticks me off.
It's seeping out of the fill hole screw, which is something they fixed with the KFL+ since that has an o-ring now (but can now seep from the airflow control screw, but I digress).

Slap some plumbers tape on the fill screw before screwing it back in and you'll be all set.

And FWIW, ChapStick works to cure any seepage from the KFL+ airflow control screw.
 
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I wrote this post as a response to something in another thread but I think it should be posted here as well, I know most of this has been beaten to death in this thread but maybe it will help someone




IN MY EXPERIENCE I get a much better vape if I push my wick against the outter edge of the chamber wall right above the juice channels. Thicker juice will not flow into the chamber and onto the deck as much as a real thin juice.

Do I jam the wick into the channels? No that would not work, but I do make sure they are covered. Air still gets thru. It doesn't seal it off from air.

I know this because I have clear chambers and watch what happens. Some juices will not even hit the wick if its not above the channels, like the 100%,VG WTA liquid I vape.

My wife's 70/30 is so watery and flows so well I can roll a tight cotton wick and put it as far from the channels as possible and it still vapes well....

With my juice and the same exact coil as hers I need to have a really fluffy-non dense wick and carefully have to make sure the ends of the wick end right at and against the channels, I can't even just lay them across, or it won't wick... Chimney coil with my WTA liquid?? YEAH RIGHT. not even a chance, does not wick, yet I empty and put my wife's in without changing a thing else and it works perfect.

Again I was able to physically watch the juices flow up onto the deck, anyone having issues should hit up FastTech and spend 6$ on the clear tank and chamber and try and see what's happening on the inside till you see what works and what doesn't for your setups. Its a pretty cool thing to watch actually.

These kayfun have a bunch of factors involved into getting a consistent vape.... Nothing is "set in stone" and your way isn't the only way.

What works for one person may not work at all... Juice viscosity, wick length and density and diameter, wick placement, coil height, coil wraps, coil ohms, coil surface area and so on.... All make a huge difference and some combos will not work, some will.
 
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    Again I was able to physically watch the juices flow up onto the deck, anyone having issues should hit up FastTech and spend 6$ on the clear tank and chamber and try and see what's happening on the inside till you see what works and what doesn't for your setups. Its a pretty cool thing to watch actually.

    Totally agree, easy to fine tune. You can see the wick blocking the fluid channels, or sucking up the juice.
     

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    Ok sorry but way to many post to go through. Is it possible to rewick a micro coil with sterile cotton in the KFL
    without taking it apart?
    Mine floods bad. Not when vaping but when I take it off, the bottom is covered in juice. Using 70PG/30VG. 30 guage with 8-9 wraps around a .069 diameter bit. Vape is fantastic. Wetness ticks me off.

    No, you have to take it apart to rewick...but if you find a way please let me know

    It may be leaking from the screw my KFL did. I drilled the hole a couple of mm deeper and placed an o-ring on the screw...problem solved!

    Or your wick may not be long enough and it's leaking from the air hole. I make sure my cotton wick covers all of the shelf. When you place the tube over the coil/wick the wick should come up to just over the top of the tube, then just push it down to cover all of the shelf. Then wet it with 10 drops or so fire it up to see if it's working screw the rest together...done!
     
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    No, you have to take it apart to rewick. but if you find a way please let me know

    It may be leaking from the screw my KFL did. I drilled the hole a couple of mm deeper and placed an o-ring on the screw...problem solved!

    Or your wick may not be long enough and it's leaking from the air hole. I make sure my cotton wick covers all of the shelf. When you place the tube over the coil/wick the wick should come up to just over the top of the tube, then just push it down to cover the shelf. Then wet it with 10 drops fire it up to see if it's working...done!

    Glenn or anyone else: I just my Russian 91 wicked it, flavor is the best i have had, I wicked mine and pushed it to the bottom, are you saying you should pull the cotton up to the top of the chamber, cut it and push it down to the bottom? I had slight leaking at first but I think it was how i filled it. Are you supposed to pull the cotton up the chamber? I watched two videos each one did it differently
     

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    Glenn or anyone else: I just my Russian 91 wicked it, flavor is the best i have had, I wicked mine and pushed it to the bottom, are you saying you should pull the cotton up to the top of the chamber, cut it and push it down to the bottom? I had slight leaking at first but I think it was how i filled it. Are you supposed to pull the cotton up the chamber? I watched two videos each one did it differently

    The only thing that your supposed do is whatever works for you!
     

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    Hello mates,

    Yesterday I dropped my kayfun to mod the floor. The problem is that a thread of kayfun not unscrew. I tested with latex gloves, my hands, and I do not know what to do, the thread is very hard ...

    What can I do? : (

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    Thank you very much!

    Hello mates,


    I first thank you very much to all! You are all very kind! I received private messages helping me and I have to say thank you very much.
    I've done it! Do you know how? I've got two pieces alone together in a freezer for 30 minutes to cool then reduce Pyrex (plastic). Then I got it from the freezer, and I put a handkerchief on the floor and above the piece of kayfun, and have beaten with the handle of a knife, like this:


    knife handle
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    kayfun part attached
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    Scarf (to avoid damaging the steel kayfun).
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    soil
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    In that order, and then unscrewed easily! The Pyrex has not been damaged! :=)
    Thank you!!! I wait that this method will be of utility to somebody...
     

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    I went with..

    Rolled towel
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    Kayfun centre section
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    Another rolled towel
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    Kitchen counter

    I then gave it a solid whack with my palm and heard it click back in place. It unscrewed easily after that. Phew!!





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    Jerms

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    So I started my KFL wicking by kind of wetting down the sterile rolled cotton I use to the side of the deck, making sure to keep it clear of the juice channels (thought that was important at first). It worked pretty well for me. I'm pretty sure through the juice flow action as described by others the wick ended up getting sucked up to the channels, which allowed for it to work well.

    I learned that keeping the channels cleared is not only unnecessary, but may cause wicking problems down the line at times (though it hadn't for me yet). So this last time I ran the cotton right over the channels. It's worked well for a couple tanks, but not quite as well as when I pasted the cotton to the sides. Lots of variables come into play (different juice, different cotton density, etc.), but my guess the slight drop in performance could be from overthinking my cotton when trying to lay it over the channel.

    All these times I set up my wick and then screw on chimney. Going to mix it up when I re-wick today by having the wick stick straight up when I put on the chimney, cut the cotton at about the height of the chimney, and just poke it into the sides. The goal is to not overthink, just get the cotton in there and see how she flows. I also like the simplicity of this.

    All this is just pretty much playing around to find my preferred method to wick. Truth is, the KFL isn't tempermental at all for me, and every variation I've tried is still better than any tank I've used before. So this is for fun, nothing frustrating as at it's worse it's only been a slight drop in flavor a few times per tank or an occasional gurgle, both issues easy to fix right away.
     
    I received my Hcigar clone yesterday I've tried cotton and silica tons of vapor but it seems to lack the flavor could that be my build is lacking something

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    I'm guessing the coil is too high off the deck. I usually have mine just high enough I can see light between them. Maybe 1mm or less.


    As far as VAT goes, intaste.de shows the vat included, but if you're in the US, AND create an account, it removes the vat and all the pricing on the website changes. They ship FedEx international priority and takes 2-3 business days.

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    I received the russian91% yesterday ad filled with some Five Pawns Queenside, first time trying this juice, ok so far but the Russian performs just as well as my KFL+ and actually like it alot!! Very happy with this purchase from a forum friend!! I wasn't real sure if I was going to like the finish but does well I think!!

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    I received the russian91% yesterday ad filled with some Five Pawns Queenside, first time trying this juice, ok so far but the Russian performs just as well as my KFL+ and actually like it alot!! Very happy with this purchase from a forum friend!! I wasn't real sure if I was going to like the finish but does well I think!!

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    I like the look of the Russian. It's a rare clone that is just as good as the original, and even prefered by some. I think I'd get Russian 91% over a KFL+ for my next KF, even if the price was the same.
     

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    I like the look of the Russian. It's a rare clone that is just as good as the original, and even prefered by some. I think I'd get Russian 91% over a KFL+ for my next KF, even if the price was the same.
    Yea, I'm starting to feel that way too! I like the side air flow screw even though not a big deal once set...I like the label on the bottom ring...was concerned about the dt adaptor but fits seamlessly...nice atty!!

    I do have a question though...when I put atop my mini provari, there was no connection, so I unscrewed the bottom screw, this is ok to do, right?? Is the KFL+ Bottom pin adjustable as well, even though it connected fine?
     
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    Jerms

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    Yea, I'm starting to feel that way too! I like the side air flow screw even though not a big deal once set...I like the label on the bottom ring...was concerned about the dt adaptor but fits seamlessly...nice atty!!

    I do have a question though...when I put atop my mini provari, there was no connection, so I unscrewed the bottom screw, this is ok to do, right?? Is the KFL+ Bottom pin adjustable as well, even though it connected fine?

    Based on Busardo's comparison video, that's one of the advantages of the R91, having a center pin that adjusts more. Not sure about the KFL+, but my KFL can't be adjusted much since it's one piece connected to the deck, turning it moves the deck and messes up the coil. Not an issue for me since my mechs have adjustable pins, but an adjustable pin on a tank is nice for using on devices like the ProVari that have a fixed pin.
     
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