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Many of us on another thread on coil building have been using Japanese cotton. Two brands specifically. ..Ko Gen Do and Shiseido. Both can be found online. What is most impressive is the perfect parallel structure of the fibers which makes cutting a perfect wick each time a breeze and allows for a very efficient wicking action. Also we have found that there is no breakin period. Flavorless from the start. At $12 a box it may sound pricey but it should be a one time investment as a box should last a lifetime.
 

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Well I don't have any cotton balls at the moment, never use 'em, but I'll definitely be getting some. Although I've always thought that "organic" was more hype than substance, I've found that Walgreens has organic cotton balls for a very reasonable price, so I'll be getting some of those soon; this weekend, for sure. For the moment I have no particular problems with the cotton yarn, and I do have a gob of it, so I may as well use it, since I seem to have found the right way to use it for this particular coil -- it's 7/64 ID, and the half-strand seems to be working very well. :thumbs:

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Those are the exact ones I use...no boiling. You can unroll one (sometimes tricky to find the starting point). The strands are pretty much in one direction. Pinch or cut off a bit and pull it through. This cotton will swell IMO, even more than the yarn.
 

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Many of us on another thread on coil building have been using Japanese cotton. Two brands specifically. ..Ko Gen Do and Shiseido. Both can be found online. What is most impressive is the perfect parallel structure of the fibers which makes cutting a perfect wick each time a breeze and allows for a very efficient wicking action. Also we have found that there is no breakin period. Flavorless from the start. At $12 a box it may sound pricey but it should be a one time investment as a box should last a lifetime.

+1 on the KGD cotton. I never thought the different kinds of cotton would make a difference (I used the cotton balls from my fiber pill jars for my first 6 months) until I splurged on the $12 cotton. Worth every penny and it'll last me a lifetime I think. Although I would like to outlive my cotton box ;)


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I only use silica in my kfl's. Tried cotton and it just doesn't work for me. Maybe its my liquid(100% PG). I have a few sizes of the ceramic wicks in my stash somewhere that I need to try next.

In many ways silica can be much easier to work with....I change flavors constantly so the cotton works well for me...but I will admit you dry burn silica and it's good as new...
 

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Well I don't have any cotton balls at the moment, never use 'em, but I'll definitely be getting some. Although I've always thought that "organic" was more hype than substance, I've found that Walgreens has organic cotton balls for a very reasonable price, so I'll be getting some of those soon; this weekend, for sure. For the moment I have no particular problems with the cotton yarn, and I do have a gob of it, so I may as well use it, since I seem to have found the right way to use it for this particular coil -- it's 7/64 ID, and the half-strand seems to be working very well. :thumbs:

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I find you get better flavor (and no "break in" period) if you boil the.cotton balls first. Just dump um all in a big pot with water and boil for 15-20 minutes. Then squeeze as much water as you can out of them and put them in the oven on warm until there dry (30 min or so). Sounds like a lot of extra work but it's not, just do the whole bag at once.
 

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Haha, was there a couple weeks ago and eat upstairs in the "lounge"!!


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Haven't been there in a long time. Used to go there all the time when I had to wine and dine customers (or suppliers w and d me). The wine cellar is awesome. Do they still have the cigar lounge?
 

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I've tried lots of cotton. Started with the rolled cotton from CVS. Kind of a pain to work with, but not much break in time.

Bag of cotton balls from target. Definitely require boiling unless you want to vape bleach for a half hour.

KGD is good for for ease, but I actually don't like it. Its harder to get the variance just right like you can with a cotton ball.

I just got in a bag of Swisspers cotton balls, and I'm in love. Easiest to get just right, and NO break in time. Its perfect flavor from the first pull.

PS. My wife was VERY happy when I told her she could have the box of KGD. apparently chicks love the stuff.
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Haven't been there in a long time. Used to go there all the time when I had to wine and dine customers (or suppliers w and d me). The wine cellar is awesome. Do they still have the cigar lounge?

Yes they do, our group actually ate dinner and chilled in the cigar room around Christmas time! We will occasionally eat traditional steaks, pottos buy typically order many appetizers including ribs, seafood towers, etc. great food for a lighter fare while consuming adult beverages!!


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Learn something new every day! I've got some silica but never tried it. Didn't know you could dry burn it like that. Ceramic works like that, and I have it in a couple of toppers now. Maybe it's time to give silica a whirl.

In many ways silica can be much easier to work with....I change flavors constantly so the cotton works well for me...but I will admit you dry burn silica and it's good as new...
 

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Everything of mine has Microcoil and Cotton in it, including Evods. I find cotton to be more flavourful besides chunking denser vapor. It just works for me. Two of my KFLs even have twin-micros with cotton and one of them has the same coils since March 2014.

a) Ref my earlier post #8211, SBS Twins >http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tems/436118-kayfun-lite-822.html#post12421864<
b) And one with Double Decker Twins, ref my old post #2055 >http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tems/436118-kayfun-lite-206.html#post10552795<
 

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I find you get better flavor (and no "break in" period) if you boil the.cotton balls first. Just dump um all in a big pot with water and boil for 15-20 minutes. Then squeeze as much water as you can out of them and put them in the oven on warm until there dry (30 min or so). Sounds like a lot of extra work but it's not, just do the whole bag at once.

I will definitely boil any cotton I use, just for the sake of the taste. But actually I'm more the sort that might do 3 or 4 at once, or maybe even just 1 at a time, since it appears you could get a lot of wicks out of just one cotton ball. Actually to dry just one or two of them, I'd probably put them in my "dry box", a small sealable plastic box in which I have numerous silica-gel packets (they come in my inhalers' mylar wrapping), and put it outside in the sun; it got to 87 degrees today, so between the heat and the silica-gel, they'd be dry in no time, without a potential fire hazard. I use that dry box to dry out the inside of glass droppers and small bottles, works great for that.

@76bridget, I used a whole strand of P&C last night, but as soon as I got the airflow closed off about 3/4, I started getting dry hits, so I changed it to just 3 of the strands. That worked great last night, but today I started getting the burnt taste again, so I checked it and right where it contacts the coil, this one was very dark brown too. So I split the yarn strand in half, using just 2 strands of it, doubled it thru the coil, and once I had it pulled up thru the chimney, I separated them completely, so that all the strands were free, before tucking them back in. that seemed to be working pretty well, but tonight when I changed out the juice for my lower-mg nighttime juice, I noted that the strands weren't really long enough, so I changed it again, using half a strand again, but left them a bit longer before I tucked them back in. If any of that makes sense. It's working well, and that's really all I care about. :D

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Length, especially if you're using yarn, is important. If you have a radically sharp bend in the wick as it goes into the coil, you'll partially cut off or restrict the flow of liquid into the coil. Nice long graceful curves are what you want.

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Well, I went rooting around thru all the supplies in the bathroom, and I can't believe it, but I found a box of qtips that appears to have JUST been opened, so they're a lot less messed-with than the supply in the ziplock. I got a couple of them and got most of the cotton off both ends, and boiled those bits, while I was cleaning and noaloxing my sigelei. Those little bits dried quite fast, so I was able to go ahead and use them to make a "real" cotton wick; only one of the bits was intact enough to fashion a wick from, but I managed, thinking the whole time "this surely won't be enough," but remembering how the yarn swelled to like twice its normal size, soaked in e-juice;I think it is enough; it vapes anyway. Can't say I really taste much difference, but this isn't the super-duper organic expensive cotton, it's just plain old white cotton that's been boiled to remove any bleach or impurities, and it tastes ok. Guess that's a good enough experiment for now, till I can get to the store and get some of those organic cotton balls.

And I've washed my hands twice since messing with that noalox, but still can't get the smell of it off my fingers. Thinking it's time to use some rubbing alcohol on them, wash again with good-smelling soap, and lotion; right now my hands smell like a car mechanic's, or something. :D

I really thought my smoke-colored M tank would be here today, it cleared Atlanta sort at midnight last night, but the USPS was too lazy to get something 25 miles in 12 hrs. Just pitiful.

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Oh, come on guys. You're much too tough on USPS. Do you really think USPS should have had a truck waiting outside Customs to immediately drive your 8 dollar M tank from there to your house -- for less than 50 cents? Would you do it for 50 cents?

I really thought my smoke-colored M tank would be here today, it cleared Atlanta sort at midnight last night, but the USPS was too lazy to get something 25 miles in 12 hrs. Just pitiful.

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