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I'm sure this has probably been discussed before, but I haven't found it. When I open my KFL+ to re-wick or re-coil, I find that the chimney cap has worked itself loose 3 or 4 turns. Is this normal?

It happens to my Authentic KFL, its when you unscrew the top cap, the seal is so good, that sometimes it will start to unscrew the chimney top. Don't worry about it, its nice and tight when you put it together.
 

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Little help here please. I bought a EHPRO KFL+ V2 using the clear tank. I have washed it twice, recoiled it twice with different gauges wraps etc. used two different juices. The problem is the vape is flavorless and dusty chalky essence for the most part. I am hoping someone here can make some suggestions as to why it might be doing this. I have a Tobeco KF 3.1 that works great, not a leak or anything, great taste and smooth threading etc.

I have heard good things about the EHPRO so I am hopping this is easily remedied.

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All my kayfuns are lights or light pluses so not familiar with the 3.1 kayfuns. now it is possible that what may work in the 3.1 may or may not work in the pluse. now what type of coil are you having issues with? wire gauge, diameter and wraps? Also height above air hole? Also what type of cotton, boiled or not? There is also one other thing and 99 percent of the time it doesn't pertain but I always clean my hands really good before handling the cotton as I always felt the cotton could retain some of the oils and what not present on my hands

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My Tobecco KFL looks like the bottom. I've watched all the videos on micro coils and I built it with 5/64" 8 to 10 wraps 2 ohms + cotton wick. On my sixth try and I still get cotton taste on the exhale. The taste is very poor on the exhale vs my Aerotank. The intake is surprising very nice but I guess for some reason the cotton can't wick fast enough for the exhale.

I'm done for now, ordered some Rayon if that doesn't work then I'm sticking to the aerotank, so far its superior in every way except the cost of coils/heads.
If the device is sound, I promise you that the cotton can wick fast enough but the rayon is faster.

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By sound do you mean how I built the coil/wick or the quality of the Tobecco KFL ?
Yes I meant the device itself. You know it's hard to diagnose problems because of the device itself for if it is somehow faulted, no info on builds will help. now although there has been some faulty devices, 99 percent of the time it is the build itself and out of the faulty builds, 99 percent of those is the wick set up.

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WoW that coil is high. I need to keep mine close to air hole for best flavor. I tried a high coil and it made very little flavor and gave it a hot vape.
Interesting; I have an authentic, a black edition and the ehproV2; I find the ehproV2 to be the nicer of the three.
I'm inclined to think the problem may be the wicking. That seems to be the trickiest part for all the kfls.with cotton you wan less wicking than you would think as cotton expands. You want it to just touch the floor of the chamber and not block the juice channels. Could you maybe have eh cotton inadvertently in the way of the airflow in the chamber causing you to just not ignite the juice properly? I would pull the coil up about 1/16 inch above the airhole and rewick it with a rad less cotton.
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WoW that coil is high. I need to keep mine close to air hole for best flavor. I tried a high coil and it made very little flavor and gave it a hot vape.
I have definitely seen a wide range of coil heights from a paper distance to as high as possible without it shorting on chimney top and yes ricks usually like you said the consensus is the high the coil the harsher the vape, also as you increase the height you decrease flavor and wicking. but to close has issues as well so for me the best seems to be about 1.8mm.

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WoW that coil is high. I need to keep mine close to air hole for best flavor. I tried a high coil and it made very little flavor and gave it a hot vape.

I prefer a warm vape which is why it's that high- it also put out a ton of flavor like that- I keep one set up like that and the other is more "textbook" which world great for the more intensely flavored juices.found some better pics
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Before I clipped the cotton
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A good look at how high in relation to the chimney
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After it's used up but you can see how the cotton was in the chimney
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Textbook with rayon
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Another dual coil at 2 ohms- had too much free time
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Yes I meant the device itself. You know it's hard to diagnose problems because of the device itself for if it is somehow faulted, no info on builds will help. now although there has been some faulty devices, 99 percent of the time it is the build itself and out of the faulty builds, 99 percent of those is the wick set up.

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Watching the video's posted a page or so back I think I'm using to much cotton possibly blocking the siphon slots.
 

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Tony3, I don't know if I have ever seen that much wire in a kayfun ever, That's a ton of wraps. What do you have powering that? It certainly brings a new meaning to the term, wick coverage.

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It was on my "p-thingie"
That's 32g so it's 2 ohm dual coil-
That's what happens when a nerd gets bored.

I've since taken it off- wasn't happy with its performance; but the pic gives a decent idea as to the cool layout.


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It was on my "p-thingie"
That's 32g so it's 2 ohm dual coil-
That's what happens when a nerd gets bored.

I've since taken it off- wasn't happy with its performance; but the pic gives a decent idea as to the cool layout.


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It would be easier to simply screw two slinkys on the thing.
 

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All my kayfuns are lights or light pluses so not familiar with the 3.1 kayfuns. now it is possible that what may work in the 3.1 may or may not work in the pluse. now what type of coil are you having issues with? wire gauge, diameter and wraps? Also height above air hole? Also what type of cotton, boiled or not? There is also one other thing and 99 percent of the time it doesn't pertain but I always clean my hands really good before handling the cotton as I always felt the cotton could retain some of the oils and what not present on my hands

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It's 28 gauge wrapped around a 1.8mm micro screwdriver and 10/11 wraps ohming at about 1.5 on the latest coil. The first one I did was 30 gauge 3mm screwdriver at about 2.2 ohms. Both are minimum height above the air hole. I use a set of magnifying visors to coil and check everything. Airflow seems fine, get plenty of vapor, it just tastes like chalky dust. I will try and put less cotton in and see if that changes anything as you suggested when I get a chance. Drive a truck with long days so don't always have the time or the energy at the end of the day. Thanks for the help, much appreciated. Also thought about changing to the stainless with the clear center section like my other KF but I thought that just couldn't possibly be it. We will see tho, truth is stranger than fiction as they say.


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It's 28 gauge wrapped around a 1.8mm micro screwdriver and 10/11 wraps ohming at about 1.5 on the latest coil. The first one I did was 30 gauge 3mm screwdriver at about 2.2 ohms. Both are minimum height above the air hole. I use a set of magnifying visors to coil and check everything. Airflow seems fine, get plenty of vapor, it just tastes like chalky dust. I will try and put less cotton in and see if that changes anything as you suggested when I get a chance. Drive a truck with long days so don't always have the time or the energy at the end of the day. Thanks for the help, much appreciated. Also thought about changing to the stainless with the clear center section like my other KF but I thought that just couldn't possibly be it. We will see tho, truth is stranger than fiction as they say.


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I use a cost hanger. I took a Eire cost hanger(they are 2mm) diameter and use those to wrap my coil- I can cut 8 inches and use that long piece. - it makes it easier for me to wrap rather than a tiny watchmacalit for me at least. When I screw the coil in place it stays on the hanger piece.
After it's screwed in I pull the hanger out and check the resistance. If I'm happy with it I put the hanger back it and use even pressure to pull the coil up high like my pics are. Then I grab my needle nice pliers or tweezers, pull the hanger out and fire the atty. I let it stay hot till the mod ....s off- 10 sec for MVP 13 for prothingy- as soon as it cuts off I squeeze the coil together to tighten it up and hold it while it cools- 5 or 6 seconds. I repeat the heating and squeezing a few times. This keeps the coil tight and as one piece and burns off any googie that could have built up.
Also- what kind of cotton are you using? Is it organic or is it the medicated stuff? Mine came from Sally beauty supply as organic cotton.


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I use a cost hanger. I took a Eire cost hanger(they are 2mm) diameter and use those to wrap my coil- I can cut 8 inches and use that long piece. - it makes it easier for me to wrap rather than a tiny watchmacalit for me at least. When I screw the coil in place it stays on the hanger piece.
After it's screwed in I pull the hanger out and check the resistance. If I'm happy with it I put the hanger back it and use even pressure to pull the coil up high like my pics are. Then I grab my needle nice pliers or tweezers, pull the hanger out and fire the atty. I let it stay hot till the mod ....s off- 10 sec for MVP 13 for prothingy- as soon as it cuts off I squeeze the coil together to tighten it up and hold it while it cools- 5 or 6 seconds. I repeat the heating and squeezing a few times. This keeps the coil tight and as one piece and burns off any googie that could have built up.
Also- what kind of cotton are you using? Is it organic or is it the medicated stuff? Mine came from Sally beauty supply as organic cotton.


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Using CVS rolled cotton, sterile I think.


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Is this it?
I'm seriously convinced it's either our coil not torched or dry burned enough or your wick.
I have never heard of someone not liking the taste off a kayfun. I've heard them not want to deal with them, like something better but never just getting a chalky taste. And I hate not knowing something lol

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Using CVS rolled cotton, sterile I think.


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I'm seriously convinced it's either our coil not torched or dry burned enough or your wick.

I have never heard of someone getting a bad taste off a tank like this unless it's not cleaned; and, you said that you washed it twice. . I've heard people not want to deal with them, like something better but never just getting a chalky taste from the tank. And I hate not knowing something
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You may want to try this for a wick- if the cotton isn't working out..
http://www.sallybeauty.com/on/deman...roduct-Show?pid=GRAHAM5&start=2&q=Cellucotton
Or
http://www.kidneypuncher.com/ekowool-silica-wick/

I've seen some people get strange taste from cotton; or some other wick material which may be what's going on.


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