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My last microcoil/cotton build has been vaping along pretty good. I just put in a preorder for the russian 91% over at vaportek..less than $65 shipped and it comes with lots of extras. (use code vaporjoe6off to get a discount)

I've had a bit of a rocky start with my kfl but I'm quickly ironing out the kinks and learning it's quirks. When it's performing correctly, the vape is just as good as my subΩ mesh DID. I'm finding myself keeping it laying on it's side...just because I can LOL It's also nice not the have to worry about how it's oriented while vaping it

It doesn't appear to come with a SS tank section. I vape tank crackers. Am I missing it in the description?
 

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Just for jollies, I made an ekowool set up today. I only vaped maybe a half ml before I was taking it apart and rebuilding with a new micro coil and cotton set up. Nothing wrong with the ekowool and conventional coil; but the micro coil and cotton set up is superior in flavor, IMO.

when I first received my k-lite the first build was indeed silica because that seemed to be the standard for the device. I used it for a day and thought it was ok at best. granted I didn't try perfecting it in any way like I usually do with things because I just never had luck with silica period, just something about it I never really liked. when I tried the cotton it just seemed better in flavor and seemed faster, the vapor production seemed the same as the silica. never tried the eco though, is it much different? I know its really made out of silica, is it just because its braided? in my reo set-up I just pulled out the cotton wick and placed the cotton under the micro coil, its bringing a different flavor profile then with the wick through the coil. going to try it on the kayfun.
 

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when I first received my k-lite the first build was indeed silica because that seemed to be the standard for the device. I used it for a day and thought it was ok at best. granted I didn't try perfecting it in any way like I usually do with things because I just never had luck with silica period, just something about it I never really liked. when I tried the cotton it just seemed better in flavor and seemed faster, the vapor production seemed the same as the silica. never tried the eco though, is it much different? I know its really made out of silica, is it just because its braided? in my reo set-up I just pulled out the cotton wick and placed the cotton under the micro coil, its bringing a different flavor profile then with the wick through the coil. going to try it on the kayfun.

I don't really notice much difference between ekowool and twisted silica, other than the fact that I think the eko holds more juice. I have an eko wick in one of my ZAPs, and it's working very well. Wrapping the coil is easy, because it's hollow. So you can shove a paperclip ir finishing nail into it to stiffen it up, before wrapping. As for the K Lite, I haven't spent a lot of time with the eko. So I haven't come up with what I'd consider the ideal set up yet. I'll experiment more with it when I get my new K Lites. The two I have now both have cotton/micro coils in them.
 

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when I first received my k-lite the first build was indeed silica because that seemed to be the standard for the device. I used it for a day and thought it was ok at best. granted I didn't try perfecting it in any way like I usually do with things because I just never had luck with silica period, just something about it I never really liked. when I tried the cotton it just seemed better in flavor and seemed faster, the vapor production seemed the same as the silica. never tried the eco though, is it much different? I know its really made out of silica, is it just because its braided? in my reo set-up I just pulled out the cotton wick and placed the cotton under the micro coil, its bringing a different flavor profile then with the wick through the coil. going to try it on the kayfun.

that should be interesting. I finally have a setup that is consistant and no hint of a burnt taste. I am figuring that all along my wicks were too thin and I was not getting enough wick to coil contact and the burnt taste was the part of the coil that didn't have juice on it. If you put your wick under the coil instead of through it.. it stands to reason that the top of the coil will not be in contact with juice and when heated.. give a burnt taste. I'm interested in seeing if it works for you this way.

I dont' particularly mind when I have things go wrong or are not right as long as I can figure out the problem and solve it. What I can't stand is to have a problem and not be able to pinpoint it. Even if the problem goes away, I want to know what caused it.
 

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I don't really notice much difference between ekowool and twisted silica, other than the fact that I think the eko holds more juice. I have an eko wick in one of my ZAPs, and it's working very well. Wrapping the coil is easy, because it's hollow. So you can shove a paperclip ir finishing nail into it to stiffen it up, before wrapping. As for the K Lite, I haven't spent a lot of time with the eko. So I haven't come up with what I'd consider the ideal set up yet. I'll experiment more with it when I get my new K Lites. The two I have now both have cotton/micro coils in them.

Last night, I put a micro coil with cotton in my rsst. It's working great. The flavor and wicking is better than it was with regular silica and then the ekowool (which is just braided silica) As long as I keep the wick on top when I vape.. if I have the wick/air hole facing down (as is the usual position with mesh) I get gurgling. I've been having a ball playing with all the different configurations in my devices. So far, I like microcoils with cotton in everything (other than the one .8Ω with mesh in one of my dids)

This last wick I put in the kfl last night, I used a larger piece of cotton, rolled it up super tight to thread it through the coil and then I untwisted it to fluff it back up instead of leaving it twisted. I keep expecting to get the usual burnt taste but so far I haven't got it. If I do, then it's going to blow my whole theory of "size does matter" all to hell and then I'll spend the rest of my day walking up and down my driveway muttering to myself.
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that should be interesting. I finally have a setup that is consistant and no hint of a burnt taste. I am figuring that all along my wicks were too thin and I was not getting enough wick to coil contact and the burnt taste was the part of the coil that didn't have juice on it. If you put your wick under the coil instead of through it.. it stands to reason that the top of the coil will not be in contact with juice and when heated.. give a burnt taste. I'm interested in seeing if it works for you this way.

I dont' particularly mind when I have things go wrong or are not right as long as I can figure out the problem and solve it. What I can't stand is to have a problem and not be able to pinpoint it. Even if the problem goes away, I want to know what caused it.

I hear you about not knowing the underlying inssues about certain problems. even when I hear other peoples issues I try to figure them out, it just bothers me. I have even thought that because the kayfun works on a pressure kind of thing that maybe altitude can be a factor. before pulling my wick in the rm2 and placing it below I thought the same thing that it is now only feeding half the coil, but to my surprise there was no difference in performance at all, the only difference I can tell is the flavor, the bed of cotton just adds a different flavor to it, which is surprisingly good. with the kayfun it may be a little harder to achieve this because of the location of the air hole, and the fact that it would need a lot more cotton maybe. in my reo I just took a little bed of cotton and placed it below the coil and then pressed the coil onto it. you know they say that some juices just don't work well with some wicks? well I have found this to be true with one of my all day vapes with the micro coil, one of my favorite juices is butterscotch from COV, for some reason it just doesn't work well with the micro coil set-up. no matter what I do it just looses its flavor. this very same juice is awesome with porous ceramic. all my other juices however really shine with the micro coil.
 

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Just pulled the trigger on another KFL :banana:

I did my first micro last night, I like it though I don't find that much difference. To be fair, I was using 2mm silica and 1Ω and the micro is at 1.2Ω. I will have to take one wrap off and hopefully that puts me at 1Ω. I find the micro takes a bit longer to heat up. I would think 1" wire at 1Ω would heat faster than 3" wire at 1Ω, but I don't know.

TBS I love both setups. No dry hits or burnt taste either way. I will have to roll one each way to compare when #2 gets here.


Question ~ especially for those who predominately vape around 1Ω, have you tried 1.7-1.9Ω on VV/VW. How does it compare... Thx
 

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Question ~ especially for those who predominately vape around 1Ω, have you tried 1.7-1.9Ω on VV/VW. How does it compare.

this is one of those 'million different answers" kind of thing and everyone will swear by different results.

i use 1 ohm on my drippers with my mech. i use the same model dripper on my provari and semovar with a 1.8-2.0 ohm coil. personally i see no difference in vape quality or production except for that little bit of time where the mech is still at top charge of 4.2v ish. once it drops into the 3.7 range its pretty much even for me.

i use 32g equivalent ribbon on my 1 ish ohm mech coils and 32g round for my vv's i prefer the very fast response time of higher resistance wire.

my KF's are all in the 1.7 to 2,0 ohm range - one is 5 strands of 1mm and the other is 2 strands of 3mm silica. (testing a few things ) both work awesome.
 
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It doesn't appear to come with a SS tank section. I vape tank crackers. Am I missing it in the description?

If you're talking about the Russian, I do see the ss section in one of the pics. The description says its comes with the atty and below that it says it comes with the clear section. So it looks like it does come with the ss section. The preorder is still open.
 

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So I will finally get to experience what everyone is raving about. :) Been wanting the KFL for a while but had limited vape funds the last couple times it was in stock. Preordered the 91%, kind of regretting it now since I could of gotten 2 KFL instead of just 1. Got my kids school supplies, clothes, and registration fees that's gonna keep my vape budget tight for awhile. Guess from now til I get the KFL, I have a lot of reading to do in this long thread.
 

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Just an FYI for others looking to get a Svomesto unit. Got this email today & thought I would pass it on to others. I have no idea on the prices they will be charging or what shipping costs will be from the UK.

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On Monday 5th August, we will have fresh stocks of the following:
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Just pulled the trigger on another KFL :banana:

I did my first micro last night, I like it though I don't find that much difference. To be fair, I was using 2mm silica and 1Ω and the micro is at 1.2Ω. I will have to take one wrap off and hopefully that puts me at 1Ω. I find the micro takes a bit longer to heat up. I would think 1" wire at 1Ω would heat faster than 3" wire at 1Ω, but I don't know.

TBS I love both setups. No dry hits or burnt taste either way. I will have to roll one each way to compare when #2 gets here.


Question ~ especially for those who predominately vape around 1Ω, have you tried 1.7-1.9Ω on VV/VW. How does it compare... Thx

all I can speak of is the micro builds. for me I find the taste improves with a thicker gauge wire. currently I am vaping 26g with my micro's with resistances around .7 Ω, this gives me 8 wraps which is very fast in response. if I were to do a 1.8ish coil I would need 30g wire, and to me the flavor is not as good as a thicker gauge. I guess with a micro you could use 28g wire for a 1.8 coil but then the response time would increase.
 
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