Perfect thank you.... So if I wrap this up and test it on this ohm tester do I need the cotton installed when testing or not?
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Perfect thank you.... So if I wrap this up and test it on this ohm tester do I need the cotton installed when testing or not?
No... not unless it's completely saturated - or you'll burn it instantly.
I, apparently, have some "unique" taste/smell issues - I still have to boil even sterile cotton, or I get a slight chemical taste. Nothing fancy - two 5 minute boils in distilled water and they're "tasteless".
I have made wick from Koh Gen Do Japanese make-up pads... the only thing I've not had to boil first. My wife gets them from a local salon, and I steal them from her.
tbh i do get a sort of cottony, not so good taste for the first 10 vapes or so, but then goes away and is pure then after. i just don't like making soup.
I've got a fogger v2 coming.. Todd says it's great..Rip says is crap. Oh well... I need something else to fiddle with now that my kfl learning curve is over
I've got a fogger v2 coming.. Todd says it's great..Rip says is crap. Oh well... I need something else to fiddle with now that my kfl learning curve is over
who to believe? anyways I have heard the v-2 is a lot better then the v-1 for sure, so keep us informed.
"Fiddle with" is good... fiddling turns crap into great - sometimes.I've got a fogger v2 coming.. Todd says it's great..Rip says is crap. Oh well... I need something else to fiddle with now that my kfl learning curve is over
If you get a metallic taste from vaping from the "tin cap", it usually means there's a short in the coil and eliminates the need to drain your tank and rebuild. Of course if you're using micro coils, it's very unlikely you'll have a short.
yea.. some clones are good (RSST is awesome) and some not so good. At least the fogger v2 was only $27 shipped and they're reselling like hot cakes in the classys at the moment. I got in on the vaportekusa preorder for the Russian 91% for only $65.. that was over 2 months ago and it's still "processing" but I guess it was worth it to save $30, or at least I hope so.
I've ordered a few things from fasttech and have been pretty happy with their service. The did clone was would have been OK if it had better insulators (hard to keep them from shredding and hard shorting it)
To the guy who has the zap and is getting tired of it.. take that mesh or ceramic out of it... take the insulator out of the wick hole and put a micro coil and cotton in it... the zap is perfect for a micro with cotton because you can pull the cotton down through the coil and down into the tank section with the tank off the device.. then slide the tank back on. You'll love your zap! The pic below isn't a zap but the concept is the same.
I have been following along every now and then. I have a Kayfun 3.1 that I have been trying to optimize. The 2.1 seemed to work well, no matter what I threw in it, but I just couldn't get quite as much flavor intensity out of the 3.1.
There were several posts a ways back showing some dual coil builds. That is what I have going now. It is roughly two .7 Ohm coils in series, and folded back in the middle. I am running two very thin cotton wicks. The total resistance is 1.3 to 1.4 Ohms. This gizmo is really working well on an eVic. I can chain vape without any dry hits, the vapor is very good, and the flavor is better than I was hoping for after the 2.1.
I had to switch to some tobacco flavor for a while, and just put my usual back in a few minutes ago after re-wicking... I felt like got hit in the face with a flavor bat. Nice.
Anyways, I owe some thank yous to several of you who have experimented and posted. I learned a great deal from everyone.
There were several posts a ways back showing some dual coil builds. That is what I have going now. It is roughly two .7 Ohm coils in series, and folded back in the middle. I am running two very thin cotton wicks. The total resistance is 1.3 to 1.4 Ohms. This gizmo is really working well on an eVic. I can chain vape without any dry hits, the vapor is very good, and the flavor is better than I was hoping for after the 2.1.
I had to switch to some tobacco flavor for a while, and just put my usual back in a few minutes ago after re-wicking... I felt like got hit in the face with a flavor bat. Nice.
Anyways, I owe some thank yous to several of you who have experimented and posted. I learned a great deal from everyone.
Wow really? No floods or leaks after the flight? Sweet!!! The time I flew with Vapeonly BCC clearos I opened my case to a huge mess of juice.
This is really good to know! Now I dont have to stress about getting a dripper RDA the next time I travel! Cheers!Oh... I should mention:
The "usual" flavor I vape is Caramel Apple / Cinnabun. It is fierce at 3.4 V. The tobacco flavor is a "Lights" variety, and really needs more umph than what the eVic can toss at it. I run it at about 3.6 to 3.8 V, and that is really pushing things. It takes the coil a about 1.5 to 2 seconds to warm up well, and it is really at its cut off. I threw some 1.21 Gigawatt juice in earlier today. Wow. That was INTENSE.
The "usual" flavor I vape is Caramel Apple / Cinnabun. It is fierce at 3.4 V. The tobacco flavor is a "Lights" variety, and really needs more umph than what the eVic can toss at it. I run it at about 3.6 to 3.8 V, and that is really pushing things. It takes the coil a about 1.5 to 2 seconds to warm up well, and it is really at its cut off. I threw some 1.21 Gigawatt juice in earlier today. Wow. That was INTENSE.
donnah, I am on the 91% preorder.... since July, i am still waiting. I have 3 KFL's, all running micro coils and cotton. I have a v2 fogger, set up with same coil n cotton as KFL's. I like the Foggers air control ring. Other then that, my KFL is always with me. There are so many choices out there today. I could get a Kraken.... but i have 2 Stratus 22's that are the perfect genny for me. I have an RSST, never even set it up... Once you find what works for you, why not just enjoy it? I like all the vape gear i have, used.. continue to use. The KFL i stumbled on when i saw "Q" post the link in another thread. I really am humbled and honored to be an ECF member. So much good knowledge and great people here. vapedivr & ceramic thread... made my gennies awesome!!
Oooo... now, if only that simple, humble sentiment could be broadly conveyed... and taken to heart. ;-)
that reminds me crss, been wanting to do a ceramic set-up in the lite and just forgot about it. still have some of the 3/32 wicks that they discontinued and should work pretty well in the lite. will just loop some cotton around the wick tails like nttdemented does with his mesh builds.
Well I messed up my beautiful coil this afternoon when it fell on the floor while I was trying to re wick it with my recently rescued puppy on my lap (yeah, bad move). I almost cried, she was working so well!!
Anyway for the heck of it I tried doing a long micro trying to gain surface area with the 30awg I got and I built an even tinnier ss mesh wick at 1mm diameter with a 7 wrap micro on it. 1.1ohms again. Put my cotton tails on, saturated, test fired and it was producing an even nicer looking stream of vapor right out of the chamber. Re saturated a bit more, put the chimney on, test vapped it and all was well with even vapor and a more saturated vape couldn't wait to break it in! So feeling like Einstein I put it all back together, filled it and started vaping. 10 hits in an unstoppable metallic taste kicked in and it would only go away when I took a few hard unfired puffs. There where no hotspots, coils where fine so I chucked the entire build thinking that I didn't have enough mesh to keep the coil saturated.
This was the 2nd time I built a dud on my KFL, it was pretty bad. Rebuilt again but I went for a 2.5mm mesh wick diameter (.5mm thicker than my original mesh build) did 4 wraps again but I spaced them out wider and tighter on the wick than my first mesh build. Surprisingly I whent down to 1.0ohms even. Re wicked the cotton tails, saturated chamber, put everything back together, filled it and chain vaped it for about 10 minutes to break it in. I can say for sure the bigger mesh wick is juicier and more saturated. This one is tasting better than my original mesh build.
After testing how good the nano coil worked when it did work now I'm even more convinced to buy 28awg and 26awg to try to put a 1.0ohm micro on a 2.5mm mesh wick to see where that takes my build. I suspect I could bring the resistance up to 1.2 or 1.4 as the micro is definitely hotter than the standard wraps.
Anyway for the heck of it I tried doing a long micro trying to gain surface area with the 30awg I got and I built an even tinnier ss mesh wick at 1mm diameter with a 7 wrap micro on it. 1.1ohms again. Put my cotton tails on, saturated, test fired and it was producing an even nicer looking stream of vapor right out of the chamber. Re saturated a bit more, put the chimney on, test vapped it and all was well with even vapor and a more saturated vape couldn't wait to break it in! So feeling like Einstein I put it all back together, filled it and started vaping. 10 hits in an unstoppable metallic taste kicked in and it would only go away when I took a few hard unfired puffs. There where no hotspots, coils where fine so I chucked the entire build thinking that I didn't have enough mesh to keep the coil saturated.
This was the 2nd time I built a dud on my KFL, it was pretty bad. Rebuilt again but I went for a 2.5mm mesh wick diameter (.5mm thicker than my original mesh build) did 4 wraps again but I spaced them out wider and tighter on the wick than my first mesh build. Surprisingly I whent down to 1.0ohms even. Re wicked the cotton tails, saturated chamber, put everything back together, filled it and chain vaped it for about 10 minutes to break it in. I can say for sure the bigger mesh wick is juicier and more saturated. This one is tasting better than my original mesh build.
After testing how good the nano coil worked when it did work now I'm even more convinced to buy 28awg and 26awg to try to put a 1.0ohm micro on a 2.5mm mesh wick to see where that takes my build. I suspect I could bring the resistance up to 1.2 or 1.4 as the micro is definitely hotter than the standard wraps.
Now that sounds like a good idea! I've been wondering on ceramic wicks. I saw once a pic of someone that filed away and molded a ceramic wick that sat on the deck like a jacket with the coil on top inside a little cup molded into the ceramic wick itself. It looked custom as hell, wish I would've bookmarked it. Now just using a small straight ceramic wick sounds promising.
What do you suspect the benefits might be over mesh?
very good to know not to go to small with the wick. anyways you wont be sorry for trying out a thicker wire and most likely will actually make for a better flavor. the only draw back might be a slight more delay in heating, but not to much. I know the micros are definitely hotter then a standard but with a thicker wire its a lot smoother and imo you don't notice the heat as much as with a thinner gauge.
post 2231 in this thread. It is a custom cut wick. I have no time to try and cut this fine wick. It sure does look great
that custom ceramic wick was made by gdeal, if you want more info you can probably PM him. I can list quite a few advantages of ceramic over mesh because I vaped ceramic exclusively in my gennys for a long while. I started a thread back in feb called fc-2000 ceramic wicks and loved it until the micro's came along. although porous ceramic, imo, is probably the best flavor I have ever tried, it does have some draw backs, for one, its expensive and is very fragile, also its not easy to wrap. the coil needs to be very tight on the wick, and I mean tight, if not the flavor is muted. I know some have tried ceramic and found it no difference to mesh but if its wrapped correctly, there is no comparison imo. the best thing about ceramic is there is no possibility of shorts because of the non conductive material. another plus to ceramic is no oxidation required, also I believe its a safer wick compares to mesh. mesh if over oxidized can create some maybe harmful chemicals, like chromium, I believe, this is why in part the ceramic became popular some time ago. all in all ceramic isn't an easy set-up to make, because of the tightness needed on the wick you have to hot wrap it. using a torch, you wrap the coil while the wire is glowing, this basically melts the wire around the wick. also you can electrically wrap it, this is done by connecting the positive and neg leads to a power source and charging the wire electrically until it becomes super pliable, at this point you need to make your wrap quickly. if done correctly you will be rewarded with a flavor that is very pure and tastey.
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