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[vapdivrr]

Hey guys, just wanted to give a quick update on how my first weekend with the KFL went and ask a couple questions.

I had it working great Friday and Saturday night and took it to bed with me as I usually pass out vaping while watching some tv. In the morning I noticed all my juice was gone from inside the KFL, which was full the night before. My fiance had already stripped the bed to wash the sheets so I didn't get to see if it leaked out anywhere. I did notice that it was leaking very very slightly from the fill screw at the bottom. I replaced the screw with the spare it came with and the leaking has subsided a bit, but there's still a little juice slick there. Has anyone tried adding a tiny o-ring to that fill screw or tried anything else to address this?

Also, after looking at the two videos (page 436 on this thread) that were posted Friday night - one from VapeRev of a girl with a standard Kayfun using silica wick and the other from VapeDvvr using cotton on KFL, I noticed some slight differences in technique that I wanted to ask about. I like VapeDvvr's method of creating micro coils but I'm using silica, so here's where my question comes in:

He takes the cotton and folds down each side and pushing them into the channels of the deck, the screws the inner tube on. The girl screws the inner tube on first with the silica passing through the top and cuts the excess off the silica (leaving a 1/4"-1/3" of material). She then tucks the 4 ends in around the walls of the center tube. There's no way to push them into the channels of the deck that way. If you're using silica and a micro coil, would it be better to put the ends of the wick into the channels (like VapeDvvr does with cotton), then screw the inner tube down on them? I followed the girls method and every once in a while I get a dry hit, so I cover the air hole to take 1-2 pulls to prime it when that happens. I'd like to avoid having to do that if possible.

Oh and one last question - what voltage should I be using on a micro coil that's 1.7-1.8ohms? I normally vape 50/50 Rawr Caramel juice at 4.2v on a dual coil 1.5ohm cartomizer. With the KFN, I've been setting my Provari to 3.8v but wasn't sure if this was correct.

Thanks

I also don't use silica but I suppose if you juice up the wick first before trying to poke them down thru the chimney, then maybe you can get them to go down to the base. also if you vaping a 1.7 ohm coil you can surely go higher then 3.8v. I would go up to 4.5v, this would put you in the 12 watt range which is fairly average.

 

[Bronze]

I also don't use silica but I suppose if you juice up the wick first before trying to poke them down thru the chimney, then maybe you can get them to go down to the base. also if you vaping a 1.7 ohm coil you can surely go higher then 3.8v. I would go up to 4.5v, this would put you in the 12 watt range which is fairly average.

I just got done making a new wick/coil (the previous one lasted 150 mls...noticed the resistance creeping up so I rebuilt). But I put the wicks up through the chamber before screwing it on. Then do as you say...wet the wicks with juice so they behave when I tuck them down.

 

[vapdivrr]

ok, this thread is long enough not to read it from the beginning (although I'm thinking of printing it out for the WC library)...

Anyway, I've had a KL (on a mech) for over a month now and have made several different coil/wick combinations. I've tried everything from 3.0ohms down to sub 0.5. And although there is an infinite amount of wire/wick combinations to try, I've ultimately settled for a single 28ga A-1 kanthal, 10 wrap, 1/16th diameter, with a rolled cotton navy nest (loose fit) wick @ about 1.3ohms.

If anyone has a better setup, shout out. Not that there is anything wrong with this setup (quite the contrary), I just enjoy trying different combos and am afraid I've maxed out.

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coach, I think my fav build so far is a double vertical. this is just one single coil bent over. I use 26g wire at resistances of about .6 to .7. Ω on a 1/16 diameter. I do 8 wraps then bend over. the center between both coils is placed over the air hole. I then wick as if they were single coils, each side coil has a cotton wick thru it, this means each juice side well has 2 tails in it. I think this coil produces a better flavor.

 

[vapdivrr]

I just got done making a new wick/coil (the previous one lasted 150 mls...noticed the resistance creeping up so I rebuilt). But I put the wicks up through the chamber before screwing it on. Then do as you say...wet the wicks with juice so they behave when I tuck them down.

that's the ticket. or use cotton then no wetting required(at that time anyways)

 

[anavidfan]

Hello Kayfun-iacs, I contacted Vape Rev and they cant get me just a base. No problem. Got another question regarding the center pin, can that be adjusted? I dont want to mess with it and ruin my set up, its so nice.

thank you again, love this thing. Might have to get another and have it "satin-ized" to math my incoming Satin ELA.

 

[dwcraig1]

coach, I think my fav build so far is a double vertical. this is just one single coil bent over. I use 26g wire at resistances of about .6 to .7. Ω on a 1/16 diameter. I do 8 wraps then bend over. the center between both coils is placed over the air hole. I then wick as if they were single coils, each side coil has a cotton wick thru it, this means each juice side well has 2 tails in it. I think this coil produces a better flavor.

How about a link to that video of double vertical?

 

[anavidfan]

Hi dwcraig, fancy seeing you here, I now see why you loved your Kayfuns

 

[bigmaaark]

that is pretty large. I have tried 5/64 as my largest but keep going back to 1/16 micro, imo the flavor is better. with you diameter your not getting as much coverage with the wires, this most likely will reduce the flavor. basically your doing a standard wrap on cotton. that's no micro coil, nor macro imo. a macro coil will be in the 5/64 range with all wraps touching. but if your liking it that's all that matters and stay with it.

thanks for the tip. this was my first attempt at it so it will need some fine tuning. i will be trying reduced diameter coils on it when the coil is done. but even like this, the flavor is much better than the ekowool ive been using. its only gonna get better from here.

 

[dwcraig1]

Hello Kayfun-iacs, I contacted Vape Rev and they cant get me just a base. No problem. Got another question regarding the center pin, can that be adjusted? I dont want to mess with it and ruin my set up, its so nice.

thank you again, love this thing. Might have to get another and have it "satin-ized" to math my incoming Satin ELA.

The screw the way it is is not adjustable although it could probably be shimmed with an extremely small thin nylon washer to bring it out farther or the insulator modded a little shorter to have it in farther.

That screw in the center of the 510 is what secures the "positive" block onto the wick plate.

 

[Bronze]

Here's Diver's double coil vid...

 

[vapdivrr]

thanks for the tip. this was my first attempt at it so it will need some fine tuning. i will be trying reduced diameter coils on it when the coil is done. but even like this, the flavor is much better than the ekowool ive been using. its only gonna get better from here.

it is a great device for sure, and with so many possible set-ups it will keep you busy. good luck and enjoy.

 

[vapdivrr]

Hello Kayfun-iacs, I contacted Vape Rev and they cant get me just a base. No problem. Got another question regarding the center pin, can that be adjusted? I dont want to mess with it and ruin my set up, its so nice.

thank you again, love this thing. Might have to get another and have it "satin-ized" to math my incoming Satin ELA.

as dw mentioned it really is not adjustable, basically it needs to be snug, if not the positive insulator will move, also there is a hollow pin attached, this pin has a slot in it, if the slot is turned or loosened it could reduce airflow. as you draw on the k-lite, air comes in from the small hole in the side of the base and into this slot, or hole in the pin, from there it goes up and through the coil. if this slot or hole in the pin is turned, it can slightly reduce airflow into the chamber

 

[Bimini Twist]

anyone explain to me why the brass on the GG tarnishes so much darker than the poldiac or 69?
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what does one use to polish it? i don't like using brasso because it eats away at the etching...

I suspect it is made from a different type of brass - perhaps naval brass?

FWIW, when I was in the US Navy, we used NEVR-DULL on all the brass brightwork. It is just a can full of swabbing soaked in some magic potion that does a great job on metals. Heavy corrosion still requires some elbow grease, but your mods shouldn't need much. It's available at Ace Hardware and amazon.com. I also like Blue Magic for a non abrasive polish.

 

[Bimini Twist]

Oh and one last question - what voltage should I be using on a micro coil that's 1.7-1.8ohms? I normally vape 50/50 Rawr Caramel juice at 4.2v on a dual coil 1.5ohm cartomizer. With the KFN, I've been setting my Provari to 3.8v but wasn't sure if this was correct.

IMO, the correct voltage is the one that makes the juice taste best. I pay no attention to the wattage at all. When I fill with a different flavor, I adjust to taste. And I sometimes adjust it throughout the day for a single flavor. For example, I tend to go higher when drinking or fishing.

Or should that be get higher?

 

[Bronze]

 

[butteroj]

Size comparison to a 30ml bottle.

This is the rampage nano kit. I do not like it. Fit and finish is good and the brushed matches perfectly, however having the chimney come out the top cap hinders other drip tips from being used. Hopefully my modfactory kit gets here soon as that has a shortened chimney.

 

[Lord Vaako]

If you bought your Kayfun from Cloud9 or Intaste, and happened to get the complimentary miniature screwdriver with your order, there are two o rings on the screwdriver which work pretty well as a seal with the fill screw. Otherwise, if you didn't get one, a little piece of plumbers' teflon tape also works well. After filling, just place a piece of the tape over the hole, and install the fill screw. The screw will easily thread through the teflon.
As for your other question, I've done it both ways. I've set the wick ends on the ledges, and then screwed the chimney cylinder on; and I've also fed the cotton up through the cylinder, screwed it on, trimmed off the cotton a couple millimeters above the top of the cylinder, and then poked the cotton down the sides. It really doesn't make any difference. I sort of prefer the second method, so the cotton doesn't get caught up in the threads when I screw the cylinder on. I don't use silica or ekowool. I use cotton from cotton balls for my wicks.

Just got a chance to read this and yes I have that screw driver from my Intaste order...will give it a try today at some point. Thank you very much for that idea!

 

[nttdemented]

Size comparison to a 30ml bottle.

This is the rampage nano kit. I do not like it. Fit and finish is good and the brushed matches perfectly, however having the chimney come out the top cap hinders other drip tips from being used. Hopefully my modfactory kit gets here soon as that has a shortened chimney.

 

[Lord Vaako]

I also don't use silica but I suppose if you juice up the wick first before trying to poke them down thru the chimney, then maybe you can get them to go down to the base. also if you vaping a 1.7 ohm coil you can surely go higher then 3.8v. I would go up to 4.5v, this would put you in the 12 watt range which is fairly average.

Thanks VapeDivr, but wow, that's really high. Are you just saying that I could go higher if I wanted to? My feeling in general is to keep the voltage setting as low as possible. That way you're not burning juice and extending battery life. If that's the case, then I'm fine keeping it at 3.8v. Once you burn the juice, it will mix in with the rest of the juice and kill the flavor of what you're holding in the tank.

 

[Lord Vaako]

IMO, the correct voltage is the one that makes the juice taste best. I pay no attention to the wattage at all. When I fill with a different flavor, I adjust to taste. And I sometimes adjust it throughout the day for a single flavor. For example, I tend to go higher when drinking or fishing.

Or should that be get higher?

Thanks for this. I'm just reading through the posts made since yesterday and as you can see from my last response, I agree. Since I'm new to the KFL, I just wanted to verify with you vets.