Laser Prototype Beta Testing in progress...

[Iken]

Hey Everyone,
As some of you know there are 10 members that are currently beta testing what could be a Great addition to our Lazer section at IkenVape.
The members have received/receiving their units for the past and next few days this week.

We would like to have all of beta test results in public on here for folks to see that we deeply do care for our product quality. The results will inflict the outcome of these Prototypes seeing life on the market.

For the testers that comply. This thread will be like a log book of mental notes,discoveries,likes,dislikes about the unit as the 2 week trial continues. If any testers do not feel comfortable posting their findings. please email or PM me and I'll just copy and paste and the name will remain anonymous.

 

[whiskey]

I Guess The First Small Post On The Beta Is Me...So Far Nice Unit(510)..
I Like The Light Weight But I Only Have Been Using It A Couple Hours So Too Soon For A Big Write Up, Seems Like It Will Come In Cool Colors..Good Draw,Vapor. Size Is Not Too Big Or Small, Thats All I Have On This Post, I Need To Use It Further..I'll Be Back

 

[JamBandPhan]

First impressions:
Got the Beta in the mail around 11am Tues. 3-9-10. First thing I took notice of was the size. It is very slim, barely larger than the battery (diameter) and about an inch longer than the silver laser (the length of 2 10440 batteries with out the atty attatched) though it only uses one battery.

Upon inspecting the unit the first thing that I did not care much for was the paint job, and color. I wonder, are these being painted by the builder, or are they pre-painted and just being assembled as is? There are rough spots in the paint that take away from the sleek design of this PV, IMO (not trying to be mean, just honest) It could be that I am just used to seeing the finish on the stock models and I need some time to get used to the red, but it would be nice to have other color options if possible.

Button seems to work well, has a nice resistance and spring back so far, like the silver laser mod, at this time I have no issues with the button functionality or placement.

Battery installation was easy, I am using the gray Trustfire "protected" 10440, though it is still a snug fit around the sides since the tube is just a hair larger than the protected battery. I had no issues getting it to slide in, did not have to force anything to make it fit, and the end cap went on nice and easy, and feels secure, no problem at all there. I put the + side of the battery towards the end cap since the spring was inside close to the button. I was advised that it would work both ways, so I will turn the battery the opposite way to see how it works when time comes to change batteries.

I got the 901 model, so I put a fresh 901 silver (shiny not brushed) atty on, which looks nice next to the shiny silver connection point, and fired it up. Hit really nice, no problems with misfires yet, and I get very consistent vapor production, even with a new atty on there. The 901 makes the model feel a bit long similar to the pen style, but not so much that I can't get used to it. I am waiting on a 901-510 adapter to arrive so I can test that out as well.

As far as safety is concerned the only thing that strikes me as a potential problem is the vent hole placement. This is a slim model with almost no space around the battery. When holding it, you want to wrap you hand/fingers around the area where the vent hole is placed, and I am guessing that larger hands would do this even more so. If the vent hole is facing your hand, there is potential for injury if the battery should fail and vent out all over somebody's hand/fingers through the hole, assuming the venting would make it to the hole, and not cause one of the ends to pop off, since it is such a tight fit inside. I am aware that this is a rare occurrence, esp.for the single battery mods, but there is always room for error, either with the user or with the quality of the battery. It seems to me you would want it to vent away from the person, maybe from the end cap, rather than from the side, which might be pointing directly at the person. I may be over thinking this, but it was one of the first thoughts I had when inspecting the unit. I don't have any real experience with exploding or venting batteries so this is just me trying to use common sense.

Over all, I am pleased with this model so far, and I look forward to using it to see how it will hold up to daily wear/tear.

Thanks again Isaac!

 

[Electricnut]

This is my second day with it. It is a perfect tube and does not have the little indents like on the silver. Mine is black with a chrome end cap and adapter holder. A 510 atty screws right in. The vapor is huge with a fresh battery.
There is an o-ring in the clear plastic package. I pulled the Lazer out and threw the package on the floor, I was so consumed with checking it out, then later looked at the package and found the o-ring in it, so watch not to throw it away.
There is a hole on the side near the bottom, I assume for venting.
Very solid and stiff button, nice.
No LED which I don't like anyway, but some do.
Not much bigger or longer than a regular ecig, but of course a bigger battery can be used.
Would love to see an extension tube for high voltage.
I can squeeze it in my hand to turn it on, don't have to use thumb, or can hold it like a cig and still turn it on.
Can hear the button click which I like, so I know when it's on.
A rainbow of colors would be really cool, but the black is very elegant.
Would make a great passthrough.
The extruded button keeps it from rolling off the table, nice.

 

[Thyestean]

ugh!!! I see what you mean about it disappearing when you go to post Isaac. I typed this up two times already. First time I thought .. okay I took to long... hit the back button and all I had written was gone so I refresh the page retype half of what I was going to put and then hit the Go Advanced button and get another error. So anyways......

First let me say thanks to Isaac for including me in the process of this beta.

I received my laser yesterday and have been using it exclusively for the past 30 hours and will do so for the next couple weeks.

When Isaac first asked if I would be one of the beta testers he asked what atty connection and color I would prefer. I told him that a 510 would be good and that I had been thinking I needed to get a unit that would match my cobalt blue glass bottles and containers that I use for my liquids, attys, cartridges, and such but that any color was fine.

I end up opening the package when it came and found a nice midnight blue laser with silver end caps.

Yes I know crappy cellphone pics. One of these days I'll remember to bring my camera in out of my truck.

So far everything works great. Button fires every time and hasn't stuck at all. Paint job is nicely done and only has one minor blemish, a tiny bump smaller than the head of a pin, that I don't even feel unless I'm looking for it.

As far as the vent hole goes I actually like the position of it myself because my finger doesn't end up over it and I like the idea that if it ever did vent, which is unlikely anyhow, it would be coming out the side instead of coming out the bottom and propelling the unit into my face

The unit is slightly longer than the silver laser, as mentioned previously, but still not long at all really. I can lay it across the palm of my hand and it just barely reaches all the way across.

Initial thoughts are it is a nice little device and I look forward to seeing how it holds up.

 

[JamBandPhan]

That looks nice in blue!

Ok, so I am having a little bit of button sticking. I took off the atty to test the button with out having to burn it up, and I noticed there is a red LED light inside the top part that shines out from the button area. That was a neat surprise to find... I hope the button is not a problem, it has already started to stick just a little, every few times I push it. It acts stuck for just a second after I take my finger off, then pops back out. I will keep an eye on it for the next few days to see if the problem continues.

 

[MastiffMike]

Little buggers are hard to photograph!

 

[WitchWay]

I got mine this morning. It's black with a 510 connections which is great for me as I have adapters to change the 510 to the 901 and cartomizers. My work got extremely hectic and will stay that way for today and tomorow so I don't have time to write much yet. So far I'm loving it and the first thing I noticed or think I noticed is it hits just slightly stronger than the current laser. More testing with same attys and full batteries will be done.

I actually came on to find out if anyone else had discovered the light yet and jam had!! I haven't taken it into a dark room yet to see if you get any glow around the atty or not. My only battery, had to steal that from hubby, is on the charger right now. I do have batteries on order though. Protected ones so I'm glad to hear they fit.

My only complaint so far is the threads on the battery cap. Mine is real rough to get on and off, but hubby told me he'd get some stuff to make it better. Just being real careful not to cross thread it.

Now for the blonde question... what's the O ring for? Mine was on the laser when I took it out of the package, guess Isaac knew that would be a much safer place to put mine so it didn't get lost. With the unprotected battery I was able to get the battery cap all the way tight so no need of the O ring there, albeit I kept it there so I didn't lose it. I'm guessing if you use the protected battery there is a gap and the O ring fills that gap? Or is there another purpose for it that I'm missing?

I might not be around much for the next couple days but will write when I can. I have all sorts of plans for putting my new baby up again the V1Laser, the Tornado and my Bartleby. Also have the Joye 510 mega atty to test, a SLB 510 atty, a 901 atty and cartomizers. Let the games begin.

 

[Thyestean]

That looks nice in blue!

Ok, so I am having a little bit of button sticking. I took off the atty to test the button with out having to burn it up, and I noticed there is a red LED light inside the top part that shines out from the button area. That was a neat surprise to find... I hope the button is not a problem, it has already started to stick just a little, every few times I push it. It acts stuck for just a second after I take my finger off, then pops back out. I will keep an eye on it for the next few days to see if the problem continues.

I hadn't noticed the light but just checked it out. Nice catch.

As for the button, obviously our experiences could be different, I thought mine was sticking a bit last night. I ended up sitting here "playing" with it for awhile and what I concluded was happening, with mine at least, was that it wasn't actually sticking but just wasn't making that little "click" when popping back up. I sat here pushing it over and over and even held the atty right next to my ear to listen for any sign it was still "burning" and even on those times where I thought the button may have stuck it wasn't. I then sat here pushing and releasing the button repeatedly and even on the presses where I didn't hear or feel it popping back up I could still see that it actually was. But as I said that was just my experience.

Little buggers are hard to photograph!

Hey!! Give it back!!

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I actually came on to find out if anyone else had discovered the light yet and jam had!! I haven't taken it into a dark room yet to see if you get any glow around the atty or not. ....snip....

My only complaint so far is the threads on the battery cap. Mine is real rough to get on and off, but hubby told me he'd get some stuff to make it better. Just being real careful not to cross thread it.

Now for the blonde question... what's the O ring for? Mine was on the laser when I took it out of the package, guess Isaac knew that would be a much safer place to put mine so it didn't get lost. With the unprotected battery I was able to get the battery cap all the way tight so no need of the O ring there, albeit I kept it there so I didn't lose it. I'm guessing if you use the protected battery there is a gap and the O ring fills that gap? Or is there another purpose for it that I'm missing?

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I can't see any light around it with an atty attached even in a pitch black room.

With the threads, I have had this on a previous device also, it may not seem that they could be dirty and they may not even look it but if you wipe them off a bit that usually "fixes" it.

Not positive on the O-ring. I didn't try mine without it until after reading your comment. It will thread in all the way without the O-ring but it is a bit harder to thread all the way.

I do kind of like the look a little better without it but I put mine back on in order to test it the way it comes.

 

[seven]

So when will these be on the site isaac?

 

[Iken]

Hey 7,
I'm not too sure just yet. By the way it's looking, it's not that probable. This is a 2 week test run and we have discovered a good amount of potential problems on only Day#1-2

 

[Iken]

Try flipping the battery Thye, like you would with a Silver Lpv to see the light

 

[JamBandPhan]

Who else is having trouble getting the battery out? I had to shake pretty hard, several times to get it to pop out enough for me to remove it.

Thyestean: I think you are right about the button, it acts stuck, for a second, but the LED turns off, and the button rights itself with out the pop sound. So far I have not had it get fully stuck to where it was continuously activating the battery, so it's not a major issue at this point. I will keep a close eye on it though, don't want to fry my atty

I am definitely enjoying using this VP, getting consistently good vapor so far. Now if I can think of an easier way to remove the battery so I don't send it flying across the room shaking it out...

*** I just tried putting another battery in and it was really tight, so I decided not to use that one so it would not get stuck, and pulled out another, and it slid in much easier, so this is a battery problem, they vary in size, some are just a little larger than others because of the plastic wrapping and PC that's added***.

 

[Electricnut]

I had one get stuck too, but the others fit perfect.

 

[Iken]

Sounds like you guys are taking it to the next level!

 

[MastiffMike]

OK, here's my intial impressions (more to come as I've only had it for 2 days):

First, thanks for letting me test this!

OK, upon opening the package I thought, man it's just some bubblewrap wrapped around bubblewrap. It was seriously that lite!

Once I realized there was actually something in there I got it out and took a look. Intial thought was that it looks a lot like a largish manual battery with chrome ends. Mine came with the o-ring preinstalled.

I did immediately notice a strong paint smell upon opening the package. So strong in fact my wife walked into my office (about 10' from where I was sitting opening the package) and she said "have you been spray painting in the house again!?!" I can only assume that the paint was barely dry when mine got wrapped up as the smell mostly went away after a couple hours. Though as I type this, I can still smell fresh paint if I put it right under my nose. Weird huh?

OK, next step - Fire this baby up!!! I got out some batteries. I have a couple protected 10440's and went to put one in. It doesn't fit!!! OK Mike, breath.... it'll be OK.... we'll figure this out! After some fiddling I found that both my 10440's will fit but it's such a tight fit I doubt I'd be able to get one of them out. For whatever reason (I think it's the protection circuitry that adds thickness AND length and the workmanship on the batts isn't terribly consistent!).

I carefully spun the smaller battery around and around while mostly inserted. Keep your minds outta the gutter people! I don't know if the tube actually got reshaped (i.e. maybe it was slightly crushed out-of-round during shipping?) but the battery did start to fit a little better. It fit good enough for me to feel ok putting it all the way in! Push it in, go to screw on end cap - DUH! it doesn't fit!!!!

I then proceeded to try flipping the battery around to see if that'd help, soon as I started to get the cap threads close to meeting it started to get HOT!?!? This scared my girlie pants enough that I quickly removed the battery and drank a beer! I then got curious and decided I better verify the heat thing before posting as maybe I did something wrong. Reinserted it and yep, soon as the endcap touches the body the batt gets HOT! (BTW, the temp problem only happens when the + side is facing the endcap)

So then I flipped it back around and, determined to get this thing working, I got the endcap on. It required a good bit of force as the internal spring had to be really compressed just to get the endcap to thread. I think my batts are a mm longer than this was designed for! I did get the endcap on and to stay (though not fully threaded - there's room there for 2 o-rings!)

OK, batt in - let's rock-n-roll! Atty on, drip, and cart push button, vap.... NOTHING! No vapor, no sound, nothing! I tried holding the button down for 20 seconds to see if the atty would even heat up, nope! Relooking at my batts I realized that the cover over the batts body wraps around the bottom and while not very thick was just thick enough to prevent the endcap from contacting it. This wouldn't be an issue with + side down but I'd already run into problems with that and didn't feel like going that route. I ended up taking a paperclip, cutting a piece off and bending it into a U shape, insert it upside down into the endcaps hole and waalaa! WE HAVE VAPOR!!!

Whew, more work up to this point than there should be for a commercial mod, but at least I can now use/test it!

Only been using it for ~30 hours so all add more comments as time goes on. First impressions are quite nice. Much better than my stock 901's or my disposable 510's. More vapor and slightly more throat hit. Flavor is the same. Battery life is gonna be better than stock as these batts are longer lasting. Due to recent events with battery problems I won't be running my batts totally dead (even though they're protected, I'm scuured!) The button has pros/cons. The button itself is awesome! Great size, feel and sound/feedback. However, it's not recessed or protected in any way. it requires enough push pressure that this isn't a problem when sitting on my desk, but I wouldn't trust it on my pocket! IMHO the button location also is a little lower than ideal. Not annoyingly low, just enough to make me wish it was slightly higher. Also it seems there's a lot of tube between the button and atty connector. Makes me monder/wish there was 1/4" taken out of there! I don't know what the inside looks like, maybe that space NEEDS to be there, but if not, I vote for removing it!

Other impressions:
Tube body is lite weight and thin! I don't know how sturdy it is but it sure doesn't appear like it would be since it's so thin! I like the size but would love reassurance that it's not going to deform with normal usage. Time will tell....
Connector (mine's a 901) is awesome. Very nice chrome finish and no sharp corners/edges. With atty attached it all feels solid and not overly flemsy.
Endcap looks amazing. The knurling is very nice! The bottom (whether intended or not) is NOT flat. It comes to a very slight peak at the center. This prevents the unit from being stood up on end (which might be a good thing?).

So that's my first 2 days with the laser!

 

[MastiffMike]

Sorry to be so long winded, but I never know what to include and not include! I'm terrible at deciding what's important to others so I err on the side of "give all of it"!

 

[Iken]

Sorry to be so long winded, but I never know what to include and not include! I'm terrible at deciding what's important to others so I err on the side of "give all of it"!

Absolutely Mike! lol All feedback is desperately needed. Without All positive and negative listed, we wouldn't know what's needed for improvement.

 

[WitchWay]

First off thank you Thy for both testing the light in a dark room, because I keep forgetting to do that and for the tip on threads. I used a bit of rubbing alcohol and it did help. However this brings me to my first real problem... They definitely need a better paint job. I must have had a bit of the rubbing alcohol on my thumb and when I held the Lazer to clean the threads my thumb stuck to the paint. Now I have a pretty thumb print in my paint. Thankfully it is on the backside.

Second problem... now I hate my Tornado. I'm very umm lets say picky (hubby calls it ....) about what flavor I use on what PV and what atty is used on what PV. So I have two flavors I use and they are extremely different so I keep them well separated. On the Tornado I have always used the Joye 510 mega atty with my Tangerine/Menthol mix. On the Bartleby I use a Joye 510 mega with a Dark Chocolate/Caramel/Coffee mixture. And I use that same flavor in my 901 set up that I wear around my neck. So tonight I clean and fill the Tornado with a fresh cart and vape a bit on it. Then I remove the atty, top off the cart and put it on the LazerV2. OMG the flavor difference was incredible!! I thought that flavor was good on the Tornado but it is 10 times better on the LazerV2. I might have to cut back the Menthol a little because it really came out on the LazerV2. I asked hubby why it would be so different from one battery to the next with the same atty and cart. He's so good to me, he got out his cheapo testing meter and checked the voltage. With his meter it's no where near accurate but close enough to get the idea. I knew the regular Joye 510 batteries only tested 3.8 volts with a full charge, but did not realize that their Tornado batteries were also that way, but they are. Does explain why their 600mah battery last as long as it does. Next he tested the 10440 battery on the LazerV2 and it registered 4.3 volts with a full charge. I don't understand all this that well but he said that was enough to make a 2 watt difference on the mega atty when used from one to the other, thus making the flavor better on the LazerV2. So now I hate my Tornado.

I did not notice any difference in the vapor production from one to the other but the LazerV2 does have a little better throat hit.

Battery life... I'm spoiled, but no surprise there! I alternate between the Tornado and the Bartleby and both have a really good battery life. I change both batteries every day at 5am and 5pm if they need it or not. The LazerV2's smaller battery gave me about 3 hours of moderate vaping, but in it's defense I was not alternating from it very much. I probably used it 80% of the time and the Bartleby the other 20% during that 3 hours. It won't stop me from using it! It's definitely better than the 1 hour I use to get with a regular 510 battery.

That's it for now, more testing to come, but I do have one more thing for the ladies in the group... I wear a KR8 battery with a 901 atty around my neck using an eyeglass necklace. I purchased the Tornado to replace that setup, but the o-rings that on the eyeglass necklace slide up the tapered cone on the Tornado so it doesn't work. Good news is the LazerV2 DOES work! Here's a pic of the LazerV2 with the necklace attached. I got the necklace on eBay for $5.50

See Mike you're not the only one that writes alot LOL

 

[MastiffMike]

See Mike you're not the only one that writes alot LOL

Ah, but your words make more sense!