Lemon Juice And Salt Test

[exogenesis]

Tantalizing

surbitonPete, the ends of your wick looks very clean compared to the coil,
was the wick that clean before you started ?

 

[surbitonPete]

Hi Pete,

How about trying the latest 2-stage clean - a variation on the baking soda + vinegar.

Start by making sure the coil interior is fully dry.
Dissolve some baking soda into a little warm water, as much as you can.
Immerse the coil/atty and wait a few minutes for the solution to sink in.
Take it out without rinsing.
And drop into a cup of vinegar.
It will fizz for a minute.
Rinse. Dry and prime.

Yes I have tried all kinds of variations on that one...using the theory that if I can get the soda or oxygen cleaners to soak into the gunk the 'fizzing' action when adding one of the various types of acids like vinegar...might break it all up....it sometimes breaks some little bits off....but I have never succeeded in breaking much off, just some little bits at best. I am trying electrolysis now.

 

[surbitonPete]

Pete, thanks for the photo as it really confirms what I have been finding myself--this residue is going no place fast with most of these methods but I have found something new that is SAFE and may work--I have it on order and will only report if it works as it is SAFE to use---thanks again Pete---Sun

ooooh you tease sun........lmao.

 

[surbitonPete]

Tantalizing

surbitonPete, the ends of your wick looks very clean compared to the coil,
was the wick that clean before you started ?

Yes they were just as clean when I started exo...I would have gotten quite excited if something had cleaned them up...lol

 

[exogenesis]

Pete, have you actually tried the boil-in-place hydrogen peroxide procedure?
(on a non-blown coil, obviously).

Interesting about the white wick-ends, I've always seen black gunk there,
what were you vaping & what model were you using?

 

[kinabaloo]

Dry residue itself could easily be re-dissolved.

But when it gets burned and degraded it is very resistant. This happens when the coil gets too hot - i.e. when the coil is dry. So to make a big dent in the problem, preventatively, would require atomizers that cut out when the coil is dry. One way to do this without a sensor for dampness, and no extra wiring (could be on the IC chip) is to detect the current drop due to increased resistance of the nichrome wire when it gets hotter.

Hello Janty.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

ooooh you tease sun........lmao.

Pete--No not at all--I am just am not going to post something unless it works and will work for everyone--not just me or some random fluke. I want to see actual visuable results that can be repeated everytime--and no specutaltion!!! So if this stuff works, then it will be great for every one--if it does not--I need not waste anyones time or money. That is all I am saying Pete------Sun

 

[surbitonPete]

Pete, have you actually tried the boil-in-place hydrogen peroxide procedure?
(on a non-blown coil, obviously).

Interesting about the white wick-ends, I've always seen black gunk there,
what were you vaping & what model were you using?

I have tried soaking for a long time in a weak hydrogen peroxide and that had absolutely no effect on the gunk.....but a strong hydrogen peroxide and boiling is something I haven't tried yet exo.

Oh that coil is from the mini-pipe atomizers....I am lucky if one of these even lasts a week...I can't help thinking that's because they wrap some of the wicking fibreglass material from under the metal mesh bridge and around the coil.

 

[kinabaloo]

Pete - for the electrolysis, connect one power line to the coil or atty body and the other to a stainless steel teaspoon (not each end of the coil). Using dissolved salt or vinegar as the electrolyte?

Let us know how it goes.

 

[kinabaloo]

Sun - if we have the details we can discuss it and maybe think of ways to improve it or get a new idea. We know it is untested

 

[surbitonPete]

Pete--No not at all--I am just am not going to post something unless it works and will work for everyone--not just me or some random fluke. I want to see actual visuable results that can be repeated everytime--and no specutaltion!!! So if this stuff works, then it will be great for every one--if it does not--I need not waste anyones time or money. That is all I am saying Pete------Sun

I know what you mean sun but I still love knowing what you are experimenting with.

 

[kinabaloo]

A good experiment at this stage would be this: seeing if it is possible to prevent buildup by cleaning every day. Using, for example, one of: H2O2, vinegar, lemon juice, bicarb+vinegar.

That is, instead of raining each night, soaking in a cleaner.

Let's see if we can keep a new atty shiny this way ...

 

[Sun Vaporer]

I know what you mean sun but I still love knowing what you are experimenting with.

Pete, I have it on order--hold on and I will post a picture of it---Sun

 

[surbitonPete]

Pete - for the electrolysis, connect one power line to the coil or atty body and the other to a stainless steel teaspoon (not each end of the coil). Using dissolved salt or vinegar as the electrolyte?

Let us know how it goes.

I have been using washing soda as the electrolyte and exactly what you said a stainless steel spoon.....but unfortunately I have to report that after 2 hours of electrolytic bubbling....the atomizer I tried it with shows no sign of improvement at all.

 

[exogenesis]

surbitonPete, cold soak H2O2 was always unlikely to do much,
it's definately worth a go with the coil heated up & the H2O2 violently fizzing,
to break apart the gunk and clean & sanitize the metal wick as well.
Probably very much worth a dry 'burn-off' first as well.

Kinabaloo, a temperature controlled coil might well be a great step forward,
to stop the thermo-setting of the gunk (that's going to collect on the coil anyway).

Ah, the suspense is killing me SunV

 

[Klimpt]

After a week of vaping with a brand new atomiser, it started giving me a nasty burning taste and odour earlier this evening. Was really ...... off, but delighted when some blowing/draining fixed it up nicely. Quite a bit of (cart) juice came out so I can only presume that was burning. Definitely going to drain nightly from now on.

Long term - does anyone think that if you can get 4-6 weeks out of an atomiser, then perhaps the best thing to do is simply buy a new one? I'd certainly try the simple cleaning methods - hold it over steam/boil it/drain it/blow it/oven heat it - to see if that revives a dying one. But I'm starting to wonder if the more exotic methods are either too much hassle or cost too much in ingredients. Here in Euroland, my 901 atomisers cost €7.50 from my supplier. If I had to buy 10 a year it is about the same price as a week's cigarettes.

But yeah, I'm a lazy ........

 

[surbitonPete]

Exo the peroxide is the one chemical I would have bet on if I had to choose.....yet it's the one I have experimented with the least....I shall have to make a trip into town to try and get some and try the boiling on the coil method.

 

[kinabaloo]

I think i know what Sun's new cleaner idea might be ...

... just trying to keep our spirits up

 

[Sun Vaporer]

This stuff cleans the residue off popcorn machines like you find in the movie theaters. IMHO--that residue on the kettles is the same residue we are dealing with and I have seen how clean this stuff makes a popcorn kettle both inside and out--and it is non-toxic and SAFE--also cheap too--

Here is the link to it --Sun

See Gold Medal 2095 Heat N' Kleen Popcorn Kettle Cleaner 31 oz.

 

[kinabaloo]

Excellent possibilty Sun ! Heated sugary gunk, quite similar in nature perhaps. Here's hoping ...

How did you think of that ?