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Let's see those patinas!

Discussion in 'Cosmetic Mods' started by jmunk, Jul 16, 2014.

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  1. Slots

    Slots Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2012
    Eastern Wa.
    I'm noticing the design (emblem) on this is standing out (no patina) ... nice
    Are you scraping off the patina that gets inside the designs to make them show up before putting the finish coat on ??
    I made a point of picking up a copper tube mod that didn't have an etched design, because I wasn't sure what it would look like when finished.
    This will be my first try at doing a patina.
    I planned on sanding it off with #220 sand paper to start with ... should I use a coarser one to make the patina adhere better ??
    Appreciate any info.
     
  2. Mark Howard

    Mark Howard Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Nov 11, 2013
    And mustard
     
  3. Mark Howard

    Mark Howard Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Nov 11, 2013
    Depends on what kind of patina yiu are doing if 220 grit is fine enough. On some I can see the 800 grit after a patina.
     
  4. Slots

    Slots Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2012
    Eastern Wa.
    Ok, thanks,
    I watched one video about working with mustard, so I'll watch that again.
    Is the mod brass or copper or ???
     
  5. Slots

    Slots Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2012
    Eastern Wa.
    I'm trying for a nice ammonia and salt ... blu-ish patina.
    I love silver and turquoise native American jewelry, so I picked up a copper w/silver trim mod, and am trying for that look.
    I have finer sand paper I can use if you think it would work better.
    The video made it look like a fairly thick coating (textured) of patina, but this is my first try, so I can't verify that.
    If I can get anything similar to what yours look like, I'll be happy
     
  6. Mark Howard

    Mark Howard Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Nov 11, 2013
    Blues from salt are thicker so 220 should be ok
     
  7. Slots

    Slots Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2012
    Eastern Wa.
    Thank You
    I don't want to keep bugging you, but I have one more question.
    How you get the greens to come out
    Is that from using brass, or bronze, or maybe a secret ingredient, in which case you don't have to tell me :p

    I'm going to cut up an el'cheapo copper pipe into 5-6 pieces, and try some of the suggestions I found on all the videos I watched last night Should be fun
    Thanks again for your help
     
  8. Mark Howard

    Mark Howard Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Nov 11, 2013
    Sometimes it's blue, sometimes it's green. I'm not sure why yet, but I sure wish I knew... ;)
     
  9. Slots

    Slots Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2012
    Eastern Wa.
    I wonder if there is a difference in colors, depending on if you use Sea Salt, regular Morton's salt, or the Iodized version :confused:
    Also I wonder if it makes a difference if you sprinkle the salt on directly, or dissolve it in the ammonia.
    Guess I'll have to try it all with my pieces of copper pipe
    Thanks for the info.
     
  10. T3Texas

    T3Texas Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2014
    Texas - USA
    all of my brass and copper mods have grown legs and ran away since they saw me reading and drooling over this thread... Must try this.
     
  11. Jjshbetz11

    Jjshbetz11 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2013
    Ohio
    WP_20141118_012.jpg WP_20141118_009.jpg Table salt, mustard, and vinegar
     
  12. Jjshbetz11

    Jjshbetz11 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2013
    Ohio
    Working on a brass tube, fingers crossed
     
  13. exnihilo

    exnihilo Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 9, 2013
    66502
    What do you guys use to protect the threads? I was thinking of "screwing" some play dough into the ends. Don't know how that will hold up in the solution though.

    Tapa-shutup
     
  14. exnihilo

    exnihilo Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 9, 2013
    66502
    Am I a thread killer or what!? I bought some ammonia and salt. I have eggs and a copper Nemmy, what do? I love these brown and blue speckled deals. Awesome work!

    Tapa-shutup
     
  15. exnihilo

    exnihilo Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 9, 2013
    66502
    While searching, I ran across this:

    Sounds interesting.

    cg
     
  16. Bizitz

    Bizitz Full Member

    Nov 2, 2014
    28075
    Couple of torched mod's.

    In order of appearance...

    4nine copper, Steampunk and iTaste SVD
     

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  17. exnihilo

    exnihilo Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 9, 2013
    66502
    My brass cover accessories came out pretty good. The mustard spread a little ruining the reason I but it on there, mostly. It was supposed to be a letter "Z". So, I formed a Z out of copper tubing and am currently fuming it with ammonia and salt. Will post once finished. :)

    Tapa-shutup
     
  18. Ohio Points

    Ohio Points Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 6, 2012
    O-HI-O
    Hey Mark, A stellar piece!

    What process did you use to get such rich browns, just mustard and ammonia?
    How long did you fumigate?
     
  19. Mark Howard

    Mark Howard Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Nov 11, 2013
    Hey Ohio, thanks! Now that I am a supplier here I can't really comment on the process, but look around and you can find lots of diy recipes. :)


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  20. Slots

    Slots Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2012
    Eastern Wa.
    Finally finished my experimentation
    Copper on the bottom, brass on the top
    IMG_1351.jpg
    The copper looks different on each side .. not so much the brass
    IMG_1353.jpg IMG_1355.jpg

    If you click on the picture, it show a bigger version and it's easier to see the pattern on them
     
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