Looking For Side Fire Button Mech Clone

[gpjoe]

smok Natural. Pretty sure it meets all of your criteria. Comes with tubes/extensions for 18350/18650 only. The 18500 tube is optional. Perfect.

Edit to add that there are two versions: The one I described above, and a telescope. I am aware that you do not want a telescope.

The Natural - Stainless

 

[Porksmuggler]

The EHPro EA, probably from madvapes, would be my pick currently.

I have the sigelei #8, took a bit of work to get it right, removing the bottom spring, sizing a new top pin, removing glue in the switch, etc. It came in two versions, one with chromed brass ends, and one with no glue and just brass caps, but I don't think the custom one can be found any longer.

The Natural has a less than stellar internal switch design, and the voltage drop is fairly ugly when I compared it to the Sig #8.

 

[gpjoe]

The EHPro EA, probably from Madvapes, would be my pick currently.

I have the Sigelei #8, took a bit of work to get it right, removing the bottom spring, sizing a new top pin, removing glue in the switch, etc. It came in two versions, one with chromed brass ends, and one with no glue and just brass caps, but I don't think the custom one can be found any longer.

The Natural has a less than stellar internal switch design, and the voltage drop is fairly ugly when I compared it to the Sig #8.

I've heard that about the Natural but mine seems to hit fine so I never had a real need to check the voltage drop - though I don't really worry about that on any of my mods as long as they work.

I've often wondered about the ehpro EA but like the OP, not really into telescopes. If I were, I'd definitely give one a shot.

 

[Uma]

This would be easy to answer if the term "clone" was not activated. Roller, Lab, Poldiac, GG, ...
Wait, there is a GG clone out there, I forget it's name and reviews though. Allen or something like that.
Good luck. The Silver Bullet is sweet, but yes, it does have a wire, it's a semi-mech.
WAIT! The BAM is fantastic and Ed has a Blemished aisle where you can pick them up cheap. I got mine for below half price. It has the old 510 connection, not like the fancy ones of today, but I've never had a problem with mine. It comes with a kick ring extension that fits inside, you never see it, plus it comes with a 18650 adapter tube for those times your 26650 need charging or replacing. Ed Green. Smokeless ... Dang, I can't remember his official vendor name. He does the DNA Spider mod and can be found on FB for sure and probably every forum. He's a good guy, very trustable. You'll have to asks if it has a wire. I know it has a fuse.

 

[Porksmuggler]

I've heard that about the Natural but mine seems to hit fine so I never had a real need to check the voltage drop - though I don't really worry about that on any of my mods as long as they work.

I've often wondered about the ehpro EA but like the OP, not really into telescopes. If I were, I'd definitely give one a shot.

They all hit fine unless you're trying to sub ohm where the drop gets fairly ridiculous with some mods. The only one I've tested that was truly horrible at "normal" 1.8-2.2 ohms was the Bolt, which dropped over 1 volt.

Same here on the telescope, which is why I went with the Sig #8, but honestly I think it'd be worth dealing with, given the design is solid. Madvapes has a youtube video I can't find right now that compares the voltage drop of many they sell, including the EA.

 

[Baditude]

Bullets out. I love em. Had one a long time ago for a short while. The wires in a switch are a deal breaker at least for me.

The Silver Bullet is sweet, but yes, it does have a wire, it's a semi-mech.

There's a fully mechanical Silver Bullet out now.

 

[buffaloguy]

They all hit fine unless you're trying to sub ohm where the drop gets fairly ridiculous with some mods. The only one I've tested that was truly horrible at "normal" 1.8-2.2 ohms was the Bolt, which dropped over 1 volt.

Same here on the telescope, which is why I went with the Sig #8, but honestly I think it'd be worth dealing with, given the design is solid. Madvapes has a youtube video I can't find right now that compares the voltage drop of many they sell, including the EA.

Yeah I eliminated the natural wayback when before I bought my kts. I remember looking at it and reviews were less than stellar. The kts performed fine with sub ohm builds down to .7ohms once you simply sanded to chrome off the contacts.

Still thinking EA at this point.

 

[buffaloguy]

There's a fully mechanical Silver Bullet out now.

I just cant do this, esp for $129:

"The center post of the Silver Bullet M can be adjusted to accept atomizers with center posts shorter than 4.3mm. Use caution when adjusting the center post. If the center post is set too high, or an atomizer with a center post longer than 4.75mm is used, the switch actuator cap can jam on the Silver Bullet M housing."

I dont mind adjusting an atty but having a mod that requires all of my rba's potentially not to work whwn swapping them onto other mods without having to adjust them and their coils from a moving post again is a PITA. Besides its out of my price range. Im sure its nice for some but even the description reads like its only made for cartos and is being sold with a design flaw.

 

[Baditude]

I just cant do this, esp for $129:

"The center post of the Silver Bullet M can be adjusted to accept atomizers with center posts shorter than 4.3mm. Use caution when adjusting the center post. If the center post is set too high, or an atomizer with a center post longer than 4.75mm is used, the switch actuator cap can jam on the Silver Bullet M housing."

I dont mind adjusting an atty but having a mod that requires all of my rba's potentially not to work whwn swapping them onto other mods without having to adjust them and their coils from a moving post again is a PITA. Besides its out of my price range. Im sure its nice for some but even the description reads like its only made for cartos and is being sold with a design flaw.

If you watched the Grimm Green video, he did say all but one RDA fit the mechanical Silver Bullet. But as you said, its out of your price range.

 

[Uma]

Way cool. I had no idea they finally released a full mechanical version. I love Altsmoke, they're a stellar company.

I bet it's the StillAre that doesn't fit. The StillAre has a long connection, longer than most, and doesn't sit flush on most/many mods.

 

[buffaloguy]

Well I did order that beauti lavafire v1 over at venerablevaping.com. For $15 its still in my vape budget this month and if its crummy I can always PIF it to a friend.

Doesnt end my hunt tho. Im still going to buy something else. Still leaning toward the EA right now.

 

[Porksmuggler]

I noticed they have the EA at venerablevaping also, and cheaper than madvapes.

 

[VapingTurtle]

Note that the picture there at Venerable is the Lavafire Smart v3, which 69s (top or bottom side button), not the v1, which is what he is selling. The v1 is better. The v3 misfires a lot in my experience.

 

[gpjoe]

Well, I'm using my Natural right now and the only negative is that it's hard to see my laptop keyboard through the fog...

Anyway, since the Natural appears out of the question, the only other side-fire mod I have experience with is the Atmizoo Dingo. The Dingo is a great mod with some of the best machining I have seen. The seams between the tubes are virtually invisible. No, I haven't checked the voltage drop, but it works great (but apparently I'm easily pleased). I think I saw an 18650 version in the classifieds for 90 bucks. Pretty great deal.

 

[buffaloguy]

Note that the picture there at Venerable is the Lavafire Smart v3, which 69s (top or bottom side button), not the v1, which is what he is selling. The v1 is better. The v3 misfires a lot in my experience.

Odd because in researching it on the manufacturers web site they have that same mod pictured at venerable labeled as the V1. Im pretty sure that the pics are of the V1. Unless Im seeing things:

http://www.beauticig.com/product/smartyv1/
Either way for $15 Im not going to worry much... lol

I saw they have the EA also, but Im holding off to see if my digging or anyone else comes up with more.

 

[VapingTurtle]

You are correct. He has the right picture on the product page.

It's on the all PVs & Mods page where he has the wrong picture. (PV & Mods)



That's the best price I've seen anywhere for the EA. I bought it from him last September for a couple bucks more.

 

[pizza2me]

Anybody know the quality of the Hcigar 69?

 

[VapingTurtle]

(My 69 clone is from FT. It may be [probably is] the from the same factory as the HC. www. fasttech .com/products/1561100 [remove the spaces there].)

Beautiful clone mod. Two user errors lead to a lot of complaints about it:

One, the contact post on the switch rod must have the slotted end pointing towards the battery, whether in top button or bottom button config. Simply rotate the button 180 to orient it correctly. The two ends of that contact post are not the same diameter.

And, two, the 510 pos pin is has a reverse threaded telescopic center. Folks that don't realize that complain about it not making connection to the atty. Screw it clockwise to extend the pin out to the atty. And when you first receive it, that telescopic pin may be screwed down tight to the rest of the post. You may need to remove the positive post from the insulator to get it loose (just once).

It is probably not well suited for low sub-ohming. I do not know.

 

[Tbev]

I don't think your going to find a clone that has a good side firing button bud, I had a devapes poldiac Clone, it sucks.

 

[VapingTurtle]

I don't think your going to find a clone that has a good side firing button bud, I had a devapes poldiac Clone, it sucks.

I don't think your going to find a clone that has a good bottom firing button bud, I had a Smoktech Telescope, it sucks.




What kind of a statement was that, Tbev?