I wish I had found this forum before I bought mine from the "scammer" in the mall, but it did lead me to find this place and I immediately got rid of that thing!
Many people have stopped vaping.
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vaping as a method to quite smoking cigarettes is definitely not a "magic bullet". I have not smoked in almost two months now, but last night, I had such a tremendous urge to have a real cigarette that I came very close to doing so. I persevered, but I think that it is very easy to overfocus on all of the vagaries of vaping, to the point that vaping becomes so confusing that a person will move back to cigarettes just for the simplicity aspect.
Quitting smoking is hard - we all know this. As smoking is as much a psychological addiction as it is physical, I know that although I was getting relief from the physical symptoms of withdrawal, something just wasn't scratching the psychological addiction itch. I started with the Blu and was able to go for my first week without smoking, pretty easily in fact because of the excitement factor and the newness of the products. Then I started perusing the forums.
"The Blu is garbage!" was the general tone. Although it was working pretty well for me, I soon convinced myself (through the help of the forums) that it could not possibly be effective. So I bought a Titan kit. Yes, much more vapor, much more complex as now I am learning about cart fillers, juices, atomizers, etcetera. Being a gadget person, still seems pretty cool and I am still not smoking.
I continue to devour the forums. Now I hear about the eGo. MUCH better than the stinky old titan! I must have one of these! So I abandon the Titan and move to the eGo. I really like the eGo, and keep reading more and more about this stuff. Wait - what's this? Low resistance atomizers are the way to go! Try some on the eGo! So I order a couple. They perform miserably. I keep reading and reading in the forums. Oh, I see - the eGo may have a problem with the cone that overheats the LR atomizer. I really need to get a different device, perhaps my first venture to a mod.
I keep researching and I see this new Phidias Woodimus box mod - looks very cool and hell, everyone is oohing and aahing over it so it MUST be the way to go. $140 later, I have my woody. 3.7v with the good old LR atty and I should be in heaven. Well, the first atomizer popped after a couple of puffs. Second one lasted a day. I keep reading. MUST be something I am doing, too wet, not wet enough - hey have you heard that DRIPPING is the way to go? So I order some more LR atomizers AND a drip tip.
Now I think I'm all set and have reached the pinnacle of vaping nirvana. Dripping is a pain in the ...., especially when driving, but heck, all the cool kids drip so it must be a learning curve. Although I am getting more life out of the LR atomizers, they still are lasting a week if I am lucky. I keep reading. Oh man, I need to be vaping at 6v! What was I thinking? So I order a couple of batteries, a charger and some of these new-fangled "High Voltage" atomizers. I also need to use the special "High Voltage" juice, so let's get some of this!
The next shipment comes in. I get everything assembled and poof - yes, a lot of vapor! But for all of the benefits of the woody, and as much as I really wanted to love it, the form factor just didn't ever click with me. When I had it with me in public, I heard people say that it looked something like a radio, something like a sippy juice box, but it just wasn't comfortable for me. So I keep reading the forums.
Hey, what is this Silver Bullet that everyone is raving about? It must be GREAT! I MUST have one - I watched a video review where the guy gave it a 23 on a scale of 1 to 10! If I had this, MAYBE that little persistent craving for a cigarette would be reduced. So I ordered one. I got the black version, and it is BIG. Seems to work well, but in all reality it's a battery holder and a switch - much like every other device I have had. Seems to perform well enough, but that brings us to last night when I am madly moving between 3.7 and 6 volts, trying the different atomizer combinations, testing several of the cabinet full of juice that I have acquired, and still -- I want to just get a pack of Marlboro Lights and be done with it. Bad.
I didn't smoke - I just went to bed and I am somewhat better today. After writing this wall of text, here's what I have discovered after seven weeks and almost $1,000 in e-cigarette supplies:
- NONE of these devices is going to be equivalent to smoking cigarettes. There will always be a withdrawal piece to deal with. A new mod is NOT going to scratch that itch, and I just need to work through the periodic cravings for the real thing
- Knowledge is power, but too much information can add confusion. As I mentioned, I absolutely devoured these forums from early on. If I had not done so, it is possible that I would still be smoke free, using the Blu, less confused and probably with spending much less money than I have to date.
- Although there are a plethora of options available, pick one and stick with it. All of these devices are basically a battery holder and a switch. It makes very little sense that one 3.7v mod would be compared to another 3.7v mod as far as "throat hit" and "vapor production" - atomizers, yes, but the device just boils down to what works best for the individual.
- In my quest to try and simplify, I have been using the silver bullet at 3.7v with the stock 510 atomizer and a cartridge. Guess what? I am equally satisfied from an addiction standpoint with this configuration that I have been with any of the other configurations. That speaks volumes to me.
- e-cigarettes are relatively new, and there is a LOT of money to be made from suppliers and vendors. Marketing rules! But if you are looking for nirvana and a release from the effects of addiction from cigarettes, there IS no magic bullet. Examine the options as far as form factor, pick one and work through the addiction. Look at these devices as a delivery device for nicotine, similar to the gum, lozenges or the patch. Any form of NRT can help to take the edge off of the physical withdrawal symptoms, but there will always be cravings that cannot be satisfied by the latest, greatest and most expensive "mod" available through the websites. Save your money.
Quitting smoking is hard - we all know this. As smoking is as much a psychological addiction as it is physical, I know that although I was getting relief from the physical symptoms of withdrawal, something just wasn't scratching the psychological addiction itch. I started with the Blu and was able to go for my first week without smoking, pretty easily in fact because of the excitement factor and the newness of the products. Then I started perusing the forums.
"The Blu is garbage!" was the general tone. Although it was working pretty well for me, I soon convinced myself (through the help of the forums) that it could not possibly be effective. So I bought a Titan kit. Yes, much more vapor, much more complex as now I am learning about cart fillers, juices, atomizers, etcetera. Being a gadget person, still seems pretty cool and I am still not smoking.
I continue to devour the forums. Now I hear about the eGo. MUCH better than the stinky old titan! I must have one of these! So I abandon the Titan and move to the eGo. I really like the eGo, and keep reading more and more about this stuff. Wait - what's this? Low resistance atomizers are the way to go! Try some on the eGo! So I order a couple. They perform miserably. I keep reading and reading in the forums. Oh, I see - the eGo may have a problem with the cone that overheats the LR atomizer. I really need to get a different device, perhaps my first venture to a mod.
I keep researching and I see this new Phidias Woodimus box mod - looks very cool and hell, everyone is oohing and aahing over it so it MUST be the way to go. $140 later, I have my woody. 3.7v with the good old LR atty and I should be in heaven. Well, the first atomizer popped after a couple of puffs. Second one lasted a day. I keep reading. MUST be something I am doing, too wet, not wet enough - hey have you heard that DRIPPING is the way to go? So I order some more LR atomizers AND a drip tip.
Now I think I'm all set and have reached the pinnacle of vaping nirvana. Dripping is a pain in the ...., especially when driving, but heck, all the cool kids drip so it must be a learning curve. Although I am getting more life out of the LR atomizers, they still are lasting a week if I am lucky. I keep reading. Oh man, I need to be vaping at 6v! What was I thinking? So I order a couple of batteries, a charger and some of these new-fangled "High Voltage" atomizers. I also need to use the special "High Voltage" juice, so let's get some of this!
The next shipment comes in. I get everything assembled and poof - yes, a lot of vapor! But for all of the benefits of the woody, and as much as I really wanted to love it, the form factor just didn't ever click with me. When I had it with me in public, I heard people say that it looked something like a radio, something like a sippy juice box, but it just wasn't comfortable for me. So I keep reading the forums.
Hey, what is this Silver Bullet that everyone is raving about? It must be GREAT! I MUST have one - I watched a video review where the guy gave it a 23 on a scale of 1 to 10! If I had this, MAYBE that little persistent craving for a cigarette would be reduced. So I ordered one. I got the black version, and it is BIG. Seems to work well, but in all reality it's a battery holder and a switch - much like every other device I have had. Seems to perform well enough, but that brings us to last night when I am madly moving between 3.7 and 6 volts, trying the different atomizer combinations, testing several of the cabinet full of juice that I have acquired, and still -- I want to just get a pack of Marlboro Lights and be done with it. Bad.
I didn't smoke - I just went to bed and I am somewhat better today. After writing this wall of text, here's what I have discovered after seven weeks and almost $1,000 in e-cigarette supplies:
- NONE of these devices is going to be equivalent to smoking cigarettes. There will always be a withdrawal piece to deal with. A new mod is NOT going to scratch that itch, and I just need to work through the periodic cravings for the real thing
- Knowledge is power, but too much information can add confusion. As I mentioned, I absolutely devoured these forums from early on. If I had not done so, it is possible that I would still be smoke free, using the Blu, less confused and probably with spending much less money than I have to date.
- Although there are a plethora of options available, pick one and stick with it. All of these devices are basically a battery holder and a switch. It makes very little sense that one 3.7v mod would be compared to another 3.7v mod as far as "throat hit" and "vapor production" - atomizers, yes, but the device just boils down to what works best for the individual.
- In my quest to try and simplify, I have been using the silver bullet at 3.7v with the stock 510 atomizer and a cartridge. Guess what? I am equally satisfied from an addiction standpoint with this configuration that I have been with any of the other configurations. That speaks volumes to me.
- e-cigarettes are relatively new, and there is a LOT of money to be made from suppliers and vendors. Marketing rules! But if you are looking for nirvana and a release from the effects of addiction from cigarettes, there IS no magic bullet. Examine the options as far as form factor, pick one and work through the addiction. Look at these devices as a delivery device for nicotine, similar to the gum, lozenges or the patch. Any form of NRT can help to take the edge off of the physical withdrawal symptoms, but there will always be cravings that cannot be satisfied by the latest, greatest and most expensive "mod" available through the websites. Save your money.
There are many ecigs that kill the cigarette cravings.
We began with the SmokeStik RN4081 almost one year ago and haven't had a cigarette since that first day. Don't want one. Don't care. I smoked 45 years and was at 2-3 packs of killer sticks a day.
From there we went to the M401, then the Joye 510 and now the eGo. All were good. Each one better than the last and it looks like we're staying with the eGo.
Ecigs work for some people. Don't work for others. But to say you will always crave cigarettes and can't get away from killer cigarettes by using ecigs is so not true.
We began with the SmokeStik RN4081 almost one year ago and haven't had a cigarette since that first day. Don't want one. Don't care. I smoked 45 years and was at 2-3 packs of killer sticks a day.
From there we went to the M401, then the Joye 510 and now the eGo. All were good. Each one better than the last and it looks like we're staying with the eGo.
Ecigs work for some people. Don't work for others. But to say you will always crave cigarettes and can't get away from killer cigarettes by using ecigs is so not true.
That is not what I said at all. I am still smoke free. My point is that if a person picks up an e-cig and is still having cravings for a real cigarette, buying a new device/component/etc is not the answer. The ex smoker needs to work through the cravings and move on. Buying new gear isn't going to scratch that itch from my experience.
If nothing else, your attention is primarily focused on finding e-cig nirvana, right? And not focused as much on "I need a cigarette!" as it would be if you were using the patch or gum. I guess you could call that the silver lining.
"but there will always be cravings that cannot be satisfied by the latest, greatest and most expensive "mod" available through the websites."
I simply read it as you wrote it. I know, from my experience over the past year, that buying a new device or whatever can be the answer and I still disagree "that there will always be cravings". Maybe we just agree to disagree.
I simply read it as you wrote it. I know, from my experience over the past year, that buying a new device or whatever can be the answer and I still disagree "that there will always be cravings". Maybe we just agree to disagree.
Success in smoking cessation will always be subjective. I do know that this is the longest that I have been able to stay away from cigarettes thanks to vaping. Some people may indeed be able to pick up an e-cig and never look back. Based on feedback from people in this and other forums, that effect is certainly not ubiquitous - many people do continue to experience withdrawal from the smoking experience. My point is simple - for a new person who is attempting to quit smoking with the help of vaping, continued cravings is not a sign of failure. It is also not a sign that purchasing yet another mod will scratch the itch. Quitting smoking is difficult, and some people may find it more difficult than others. Suggesting that a person in withdrawal simply purchase a new device is not necessarily the answer, and will only enrich the merchant. Perhaps there is a psychological impact to the "mailman stalking" excitement as well as the first day or two with a new mod. Perhaps that excitement can help to get a quitter over a temporary setback. But really, how many times can this cycle be repeated without breaking the bank? It all boils down to one size does not fit all. I'm glad that I am no longer a slave to cigarettes. I will be doubly pleased when I am also not a slave to a PV. I can be patient, and I hope that when I get to month three without cigarettes, I will find the process even easier.
Ah, well said. Well explained. We do agree.
I didn't understand you to mean "but [for some] there will always be cravings that cannot be satisfied by the latest, greatest and most expensive "mod" available through the websites."
I didn't understand you to mean "but [for some] there will always be cravings that cannot be satisfied by the latest, greatest and most expensive "mod" available through the websites."
You're only speaking for yourself here.
You may, however, also be speaking for many others as well.
But I have seen TONS of people stop smoking by getting a better device.
It happens all the time around here.
Well I'm still on analogs, been vaping close to 2 years. Tried it all, now I was able to cut a pack and a half out of my life per day. Cannot complain, enjoy vaping most of the time, especially while flying but in the AM and in the evening with a glass of vino, got to have a analog.
Well, as I mentioned in another thread, I did break down and try a cigarette this afternoon with very surprising results for me - I actually preferred the vape! This experience has taught me something, and is completely different from any other quit attempt I have made over the past 30 some odd years 
I think that some of my frustration is that I would just like to find a vaping configuration that I would be comfortable with and could settle down with. Over the past few weeks, I have acquired quite a bit of gear (and a big credit card bill also), and I find that I am confusing myself trying to find "the one" that I would stick with. The last mod I bought was a black silver bullet, so I have been using this one pretty consistently over the past few days.
Maybe I'm neurotic, but I have been moving between the 6v configuration and the 3.7v. Sometimes, I think I like the 3.7 better, and then I set it up with 6v and am convinced that 6v is the way to go. Is this confusion and lack of decision making ability just a normal part of the learning curve?
I think that some of my frustration is that I would just like to find a vaping configuration that I would be comfortable with and could settle down with. Over the past few weeks, I have acquired quite a bit of gear (and a big credit card bill also
), and I find that I am confusing myself trying to find "the one" that I would stick with. The last mod I bought was a black silver bullet, so I have been using this one pretty consistently over the past few days. Maybe I'm neurotic, but I have been moving between the 6v configuration and the 3.7v. Sometimes, I think I like the 3.7 better, and then I set it up with 6v and am convinced that 6v is the way to go. Is this confusion and lack of decision making ability just a normal part of the learning curve?
It sounds to me like you have options that you can use the way you want, when you want, depending on what you feel like doing at the time.
That can only be a good thing.
Motox, you made me laugh and reminisce. You sound like about ten years of my life with stereo equipment. Upgrade amp, upgrade speakers, upgrade turntable and cartridge, then thru the cycle again.
Eventually, I just researched, talked to many "experts", test drove and found the perfect, expensive combination that made me happy and still have it thirty years later. Don't get me wrong, added a surround sound amp and speakers for movie viewing, but the music is sweet on the old system and it only costs me tweeter rebuilds every few years and a new set of tubes occasionally (for those of you that know what they are).
More on subject, you should have just bought a Chuck with 510 atty adapter and just drip into a Joye atty (old school) and stock mouthpiece sans filler..... Just joking
Eventually, I just researched, talked to many "experts", test drove and found the perfect, expensive combination that made me happy and still have it thirty years later. Don't get me wrong, added a surround sound amp and speakers for movie viewing, but the music is sweet on the old system and it only costs me tweeter rebuilds every few years and a new set of tubes occasionally (for those of you that know what they are).
More on subject, you should have just bought a Chuck with 510 atty adapter and just drip into a Joye atty (old school) and stock mouthpiece sans filler..... Just joking
Time to come over to the dark side, smokeless. I use Swedish snus, others snuff, stonewalls, Ariva et al. I had the same situation, cut out over two packs a day for six months while only smoking a handful daily. Then that started edging up and went to the smokeless and haven't looked back in four months.
i spend 2 weeks looking through youtube reviews originally before deciding on a 510 to break my cherry. First few pulls i said yep this will do and gave my cigs away
All of the guys my husband works with (air force) that have tried e-cigs have quit and went back to cigarettes. On the other hand, all of our friends use e-cigs and have completely quit cigarettes.
It seems like people who do not research the internet are more likely to go back to cigarettes. Me, my husband and all of our friends are all internet geeks. It is about effort too. People who are not internet savvy require a lot more energy to get on the computer.
It seems like people who do not research the internet are more likely to go back to cigarettes. Me, my husband and all of our friends are all internet geeks. It is about effort too. People who are not internet savvy require a lot more energy to get on the computer.
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