Mech Mod Blows up in Teen's Face !

[MyMagicMist]

In Each and Every Case it is either a rare Malfunction or a Person not intelligent enough to Learn before attempting to operate.

We do not need more Bans and we have enough Signs in this country as is. We need people to stop acting Brain Dead and Take some responsibility for themselves.

I agree with this. While it may seem I am unsafe in having independent sources handle doing some aspects of math for me, I do understand the basic concepts of using a mechanical mod safely. I have to because of having people love me. I enjoying using these mods. They offer me pleasure. The trade off is I have to be responsible and read, research and if needed ask for help.

Yes I do sub ohming. What sub ohming I do is according to what is considered in a reasonably safe range by many here and elsewhere. I do not have top of the line suggested batteries. I do though know what the batteries I use can handle and do not push them hard. I store, carry, charge my batteries safely. Soon need to get some wrap tubing for them as the positive ends are becoming frayed from normal use. The battery sled is tight and brushes the tubing on the positive end, wearing it to fray. The batteries will be re-wrapped soon too.

I read a great deal before considering a mechanical mod. I was in fact rather frightened to try them. Now, I am not as frightened. Yes, I respect them and am cautious with them. Being honest, you suck on a pipe bomb when you use them. Your safety is literally in your hands and responsibility, knowledge are tools you use to remain safe.

Alright let me hop down here.

 

[YoursTruli]

"Frog protection......" I'm with you!

It's not common knowledge, I get it, at the same time, it doesn't take much effort to find what you're looking for is my point!

And, I probably got very lucky that I found a shop that takes battery safety serious!

...but if you do not know there is anything to look for you won't. I often think when you have gotten so far into this, vaping, people tend to forget there are those who really are clueless about all of it, add to that factor of clueless vape shops or people skipping vape shops and buying online and there it is, exploding mods.

I have a friend who is older, like myself, and wanted stop smoking so she went to the local vape shop and was sold a beginners ego set up (which personally I think was great) but when her ego battery died and she went back they sold her a mech mod to use her clone protanks on... replaceable batteries they said, better battery life they said, nicer looking battery holder they said... so she (finally FINALLY) called me to ask how in the heck to charge these new batteries since her ego charger did not seem like it would work on them........... so, there you go.

 

[NOVA jon]

At what point does it make the end user any less responsible for his or her actions? Even if every mech came with instructions on safe operation, you can't possibly think everyone will take the time to read and comprehend them!!

 

[crxess]

I cringe to think what some would do with this:

Yet, Mine worked great until I got bored with it. It was Ugly, uncomfortable, wobbly and easy as heck to Autofire........ But when set up safely, it fired my tanks without fail.
This was my First Mechanical Mod............and almost my last. Thank goodness the market quickly evolved.

 

[jjhwk_]

Perhaps you should handle a fine, high end mech so that you understand what you're talking about.

I've used a mech mod before. I checked the amp of the batteries, used an ohm calculator to build a correct resistance coil and used it. Personally I didn't like it.

It appears I didn't make my opinion clear, mech mods should be banned from sale. Anyone with enough knowledge to use one can build there own, anyone who just wants big clouds can just buy a 200w mod and low resistance tank.

 

[WharfRat1976]

How about the fact you have B&Ms selling 35amp batterys that are really only 15 amp batterys?

 

[YoursTruli]

At what point does it make the end user any less responsible for his or her actions? Even if every mech came with instructions on safe operation, you can't possibly think everyone will take the time to read and comprehend them!!

...maybe not but at the very least the information/warnings would be there to access for anyone who cared to read it. And, I am not taking about the standard these devices are for advanced users only (WTH does that mean really???) kinda warning.

I think there are a few facts people tend to overlook about vaping/mech mods. This is new(er) to the masses technology that the majority of the population is completely uneducated about and while I do not dismiss personal responsibility I tend to lean towards... retailers of this new(er) to the masses technology hold more than their fair share of the responsibility... if not to educate at a minimum to honestly warn users of the true dangers.... and maybe just maybe not put them into the hands of complete noobs without that.

ETA: This is the only electronic device on the market (at this time) that I can think of that is NOT regulated/rated for safety by some government entity or held to ANY standards that is made for consumer use and I am willing to bet the vast majority of people have no understand it is not like every other electronic type device or what this means to them as a consumer.

In a way this is so opposite of what you think would be happening, you would think in light of ecigs blowing peoples faces off retailers would be going to great lengths to educate and/or warn new users if for nothing else to cover their own it's kinda crazy to me they are not, maybe it will take a winning lawsuit or two before they do.

Although... I have noticed though instead of education/warnings most retailers seem to be dumping their inventory of mech mods for pennies on the dollar further flooding the unknowing market with potential accidents waiting to happen.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Danger from using batteries.
Danger from trying to prepare and cook a raw chicken.

Do you expect people to look up the dangers of preparing and cooking raw chicken?
A college student that never learned to cook but has a chicken in hand?

I guess that is the best analogy I can come up with.
I think it works to illustrate the point, but I know many who will disagree.

And now I remember why I keep wanting to disagree with you...
Even though I generally agree with you in concept...


You seem to feel... no you seem to insist...
That the dangers of batteries are common knowledge.

EDIT:
Actually, I hate my analogy.
Just about everybody old enough to cook knows about the dangers of raw chicken.
And even if they don't the cooking instructions may well include such information.
But the same can not be said for the dangers of batteries.

Yes.
Its extremely reasonable to expect adults to educate themselves before taking risks, otherwise they only have themselves to blame.

Your analogy stands strong.

If.you get sick from chicken you improperly cooked, it snt the fault of the farmer or the grocery store

 

[crxess]

People don't think:

Step Ladder

Breaker Box above Bath Tub

 

[DC2]

People don't think:

Maybe this person thought it through and decided to take the risk.
Sort of like vaping 20ml of highly flavored eliquid per day at 100 watts.


Maybe he doesn't have a place to store a ladder.
Seems pretty clever to me.


Seems like something I might do.

But I'd never blame anyone but myself if I wound up breaking something.
The dangers in this case are obvious.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Maybe this person thought it through and decided to take the risk.
Sort of like vaping 20ml of highly flavored eliquid per day at 100 watts.


Maybe he doesn't have a place to store a ladder.
Seems pretty clever to me.


Seems like something I might do.

But I'd never blame anyone but myself if I wound up breaking something.
The dangers in this case are obvious.

His landlord didn't think it was clever so he sent him the drywall and paint repair bill.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Double whammy

 

[EdT586]

No.
Banning everything that isn safe for the lowest common denominator is ridiculous and makes us all stupid.
Education is the answer.

That is exactly what is happening in our society, the "lowest common denominator" effect is with us everywhere from the parents to our schools, governments and laws ...some would call that progress ! ...LoL

 

[EdT586]

That is exactly what is happening in our society, the "lowest common denominator" effect is with us everywhere from the parents to our schools, governments and laws ...some would call that progress ! ...LoL

 

[WattWick]

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Breaker Box above Bath Tub

About a week ago I spent a night in a hotel where 2 separate, fully exposed wall sockets were mounted halfway up the wall facing the shower. No curtain. Maybe 6-7 feet away. Good thinking